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Swiss Aviation Thread 16  
User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 15402 times:

The old Swiss Aviation Thread 15 has reached almost 300 posts. Here is the new one.

From the previous thread:

Quote:
Interesting news, thank you! From what I heard earlier in this forum SFO wasn't really money making for SR. (by AntonovA330 )

I think now is another situation because SFO is strong Star Alliance hub.

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User currently offlineHelvknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 15393 times:



Quoting LXA340 (Thread starter):
Supposedly SWISS's next longhaul destination will be SFO. initially swiss wanted to introduce this new destination starting in 2009, but the current lack of cockpit/ cabin crews and airplanes forces them to wait until late 2009 or even 2010?

If this starts what will happen to the SFO tag on on the UA flight to IAD? A direct connection to SFO will be much better especially since international arrivals at IAD can be such a mess.


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 15396 times:


Hurray for the Swiss and coming to SFO!



Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre.
User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 15377 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 2):
Hurray for the Swiss and coming to SFO!

Let's hope, it really becomes true. Also PEK. The problem won't be the aircrafts because, as discussed in another thread, SWISS probably will keep some A 332 instead of replace all with 333 and more 343. The problem will be the crews.

[Edited 2008-04-08 12:37:38]

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 15339 times:

Tonight in the news of "10vor10" (TV SF) they had a report that SWISS already has decided not to allow cell phones in their aircrafts. I am glad to hear this. I find it really annoying to be forced to listen to all the nonsense people are chatting into their phones loudly, when you are inclosed in a sardine can. On the ground or in trains you at least can evade it. I think everybody, even the most busiest businessman can manage not to phone during a flight, even 12 hours.

[Edited 2008-04-08 13:27:22]

User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2127 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 15326 times:



Quoting ZRH" class=quote target=_blank>ZRH (Reply 4):
Tonight in the news of "10vor10" (TV SF) they had a report that SWISS already has decided not to allow cell phones in their aircrafts

In flight it's good that they will not have it however on the ground LX could be less strict about it and let people talk or at least let them write sms they even don't allow you to do that at least most of the crew.

Well yeah SFO used to be unprofitable for SR so it would be interesting if this is really true. But maybe due to the partnership with United / LH and Star Alliance this route would have potential. Probably BKK would get another Tag on route as mentioned and possibly SIN liek before with SR didn't they fly to Saigon and JKT? However 3 daily non stop flights to SIN interesting if there is enough demand for it. Also LX would need to get more A343's or other capable aircraft for those long routes as also if they would keep A332's they couldn't use them possibly only to PEK.

Any ideas about the 2nd, 3rd and 4th route of the A333's in 2009. I could imagine GVA-JFK in direct competition to QR maybe, ZRH - JFK and ZRH - BOM?


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 15314 times:



Quoting LXA340 (Reply 5):
if they would keep A332's they couldn't use them possibly only to PEK

I don't think that they would fly the 332 on these routes (SFO, PEK). But they could free some 343 from other routes (BOS, MIA) where you also can use the 332 or the 333.


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 15305 times:
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I asked this question back in Thread 11, but with all the summer season starting, I figure I will ask again.

Any chance GVA-JFK will increase frequency to twice daily like ZRH when new aircraft come online?

Could ZRH-EWR become an A333 or A343 to replace the BBJ service while keeping the high number of business class seats?

Could GVA-EWR start?

Will GVA ever see any other long-hauls? (LAX, BOS, or even Asia or JNB?)

TIS



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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 15299 times:



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 7):
Could GVA-EWR start?

Will GVA ever see any other long-hauls? (LAX, BOS, or even Asia or JNB?)

There is a GVA-EWR by CO. GVA could see other long-haul but for sure not by SWISS. An Airline of this size can not afford two long-haul hubs because they have to feed the flights with passengers from all over Europe. Without this not even most of flights out of ZRH could be flown because there is not enough o/d traffic. So SWISS will not fly more intercontinental from GVA and no second JFK flight (there are only enough o/d passengers for one flight).


User currently offlineSaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1610 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 15296 times:

This fan of Swiss aviation has finally applied to EK..... It would let me get to Switzerland more often again!


smrtrthnu
User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 15288 times:



Quoting Saab2000 (Reply 9):
This fan of Swiss aviation has finally applied to EK..... It would let me get to Switzerland more often again!

Congrats. Why did you not apply to SWISS. They are looking for pilots, not only AVRO but also for the Airbuses.


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2127 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 15282 times:



Quoting Saab2000 (Reply 9):
This fan of Swiss aviation has finally applied to EK..... It would let me get to Switzerland more often again!

Hey, good luck for that. With their expansion speed maybe you are lucky. But again SWISS is in desperate needs to pilots both A32S and RJ100 no chance for you to directly apply to SWISS International as you only would need to be retrained and that take much less time than recruiting new pilots?

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 7):
Could ZRH-EWR become an A333 or A343 to replace the BBJ service while keeping the high number of business class seats?

Possibly in the longer run this could happen and the BBJ could be used for different routes eg ZRH-DXB with a night flight out of ZRH however at the momment this doesn't seem to be on the priority list of LX.


User currently offlineSaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1610 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 15255 times:

Where do I apply for SWISS? Not sure it is a great deal though. I have about 5000 hours and am captain on a CRJ in the US. They probably mostly want young guys and gals who they will train.

If I could get LX Airbus, I would go tomorrow.....



smrtrthnu
User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 15241 times:



Quoting Saab2000 (Reply 12):
Where do I apply for SWISS?

Try it here:
http://www.swiss.com/web/DE/about_sw...ties/cockpit_crew/Pages/pilot.aspx

They offer jobs for: Direct entry for Swiss European Airlines and as First Officer for Airbus at Swiss International Airlines


User currently offlineSaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1610 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 15223 times:

I will send my CV. I was offered a job back there last year on the Avro but did not take it. My JAA certificate is still valid (though I am not IFR current in Switzerland) and if I could get on the Airbus I am sure I would take it. This website did not used to work for me in the US.

Thanks for the link! It works!



smrtrthnu
User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1836 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 15167 times:



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 7):
Could ZRH-EWR become an A333 or A343 to replace the BBJ service while keeping the high number of business class seats?

Last I heard there were plans to reintroduce the A. 330 on the ZRH-EWR route and use the BBJ either for a new GVA-DXB or a second ZRH-DXB. But I think that was a mere consideration rather then a done deal.


User currently offlineHBDAN From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 661 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 15141 times:

I saw that yesterday BRN had an arrival from RKV. Is it the Q400 for SkyWork? Pictures anyone?

HBDAN



Next flight: hopefully soon...
User currently offlineSailas From Finland, joined Jul 2007, 285 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 15072 times:

I didnt know Air Transat was planning to start flying from YUL to Basel mulhouse? May 29th? Is this true?
What aircraft would be used on this service?



Airlines been on: AY, LX, SR, OS, SK, KF, EZY, FR, BA, LH, AF, TG, DC, FC, TK, KL, BT, CX, QR
User currently offlineHBDAN From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 661 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 15025 times:



Quoting Sailas (Reply 17):

Yes. A310.

HBDAN



Next flight: hopefully soon...
User currently offlineLegacy135 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1052 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 14967 times:



Quoting HBDAN (Reply 16):
I saw that yesterday BRN had an arrival from RKV. Is it the Q400 for SkyWork? Pictures anyone?

Correct, the plane was supposed to arrive already on Sunday but as usual with deliveries......
Unfortunately I am the whole week abroad, so I can't provide any pictures yet, as I haven't seen the bird myself yet. Skywork will be doing a presentation to the public on SAT 26.04. and having it's entire fleet including the Biz-Jets on ground. They will also be offering short trips around BRN airport with it's Q400 to those interested.

Cheers
Legacy135  Wink


User currently offlineHBDAN From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 661 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 14951 times:



Quoting Legacy135 (Reply 19):

Found it: http://www.skywork-airlines.ch/news.php

HBDAN



Next flight: hopefully soon...
User currently offlineSailas From Finland, joined Jul 2007, 285 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 14811 times:



Quoting HBDAN (Reply 18):

does basel really have the load factors for an A310? I would have never thought so...



Airlines been on: AY, LX, SR, OS, SK, KF, EZY, FR, BA, LH, AF, TG, DC, FC, TK, KL, BT, CX, QR
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 14807 times:



Quoting ZRH" class=quote target=_blank>ZRH (Reply 8):
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 7):
Could GVA-EWR start?

Will GVA ever see any other long-hauls? (LAX, BOS, or even Asia or JNB?)

There is a GVA-EWR by CO. GVA

Also QR 5 per week GVA-EWR. With the daily LX 332, daily CO 764 and 5/week QR 332, that's probably plenty of capacity for the GVA-NYC market. LX often has plenty of empty seats GVA-JFK especially in economy class. They currently have a special fare GVA-JFK-GVA for CHF690, over CHF300 cheaper than their lowest special fare from ZRH.


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5301 posts, RR: 61
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14786 times:

In other news, DPTS.org reports that FlyBaboo will launch:
GVA-Sofia / 3x weekly (MON/WED/FRI)
GVA-Vienna / daily except Saturday
Plans for Istanbul, Orly and Tunis have however been given up.

Both seem to make good sense although Vienna should see a higher frequency to compete effectively with OS.



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineSailas From Finland, joined Jul 2007, 285 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 14663 times:

Its good to see the swiss airline industry growing again:D


Airlines been on: AY, LX, SR, OS, SK, KF, EZY, FR, BA, LH, AF, TG, DC, FC, TK, KL, BT, CX, QR
25 Humberside : Do Flybaboo still plan to do Sion-LCY with their EMB-190's. Have read an interview with their CEO when he mentioned these plans[Edited 2008-04-10 08:3
26 Saab2000 : I need to get in touch with Sandro..... If you are reading Sandro, PM me!! Questions.... I believe I am too old for SWISS according to the Anforderung
27 Fiatstilojtd : Thats nice for us here in the eastern part of Austria.....
28 MAH4546 : Don't know about Swiss/SFO, but Belair applied with US DOT to fly SFO-ZRH yesterday.
29 LXA340 : This would be seasonal flights during the winter I gues? You mean AIr Berlin...
30 HT : In AB's summer timetable the one flight per week is shown with a 4T-flight number (4T 5065/5064) operating on Wednesday 02-JUL thru 17-SEP-2008... -H
31 ZRH : Belair does not exist anymore, it's Air Berlin. But between Switzerland and the US any airline may fly any time between any cities because it is open
32 MAH4546 : Nonetheless, it is under Belair's AOC, and since Belair does not have scheduled passenger rights to fly to the U.S. (only charter), they had to apply
33 LXA340 : How come that the ZRH-PVG flight of LX will first commence in May the additional aircraft (A340 HB-JMM) needed for this flight sits in ZRH since almos
34 Konrad : Any chance or rumors of Swiss return to KRK? Are they happy with their WAW service? Gruezi aus Krakau...
35 Post contains links ZRH : All Swiss aircrafts of the European fleet (A 320 family and the AVROs) are now equipped with the new seats: http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...041
36 Swissairtaz : Nothing to do with government approval. Parts for the cabin interior are still outstanding to convert the cabin from Air Canada layout to Swiss layou
37 LXA340 : Thanks for the info. How come btw that LX didn't instal the new cabin product of all 3 classes which will be introduced with the A333's oon the 6 A34
38 AntonovA330 : Has anyone seen the progress of the runway 16/34 repavement work lately? Is it going as expected? What length has been finished by now? I think its qu
39 Sailas : Question: Was reading finnairs old press realeses from 2002 and came across an article, whic said AY and LX will codeshare ZRH with 2 flights daily. W
40 AviationMaster : I think the ending of the AY/LX codeshare was due to LX parting Oneworld for Star Alliance
41 Knightsofmalta : The problem is precisely that there simply is a shortage in supply for the seats. With the likes of SQ and EK placing massive orders for the A. 380 e
42 Post contains links and images SandroZRH : Not sure wether i'd be able to help, but send me a PM! I had a very interesting week with lots of crosscountry flying, here a few impressions (please
43 ZRH : I hope you will do it again. Great photos, I liked them very much. It seems you had fun flying over Switzerland. 28 must be huge runway for your smal
44 LXA340 : Thanks Excellent pictures
45 Semsem : OS have I believe 3 x daily GVA to VNA flights. At least maybe with Baboo the fares may drop. If Easyjet would have gotten the route then I am sure th
46 Sailas : excellent pictures SandroZRH. Makes me miss switzerland even more. Well May 7th HEL-GVA on E70 With AY I remember that md-90 from ZRH been on that fli
47 Infodesk : What fantastic pics Sandro - it's looks like you're enjoying every minute of it!
48 Sailas : Any new orders coming to LX soon apart from the a330-340. Why not get some E70s or 90s since those are the "thing" nowadays?
49 Saab2000 : Nice pics! I remember all of those places well!! I did my CPL-IFR checkride from ZRH-FDH-ACH-ZRH. I did it with Horizon in the PA-34-220T. We did the
50 LXA340 : It looks like LX will keep some A332's in the fleet and sooner or later E70's and 90's will be ordered as a replacement for the Jumbolinos my gues is
51 ZRH : I agree. Sooner or later they have to replace their 20 AVRO RJ 100. Probably they get some of the LH E 190 order. I am not sure if they want the 170
52 Helvknight : They might need to. I know the E170 has (or is close to having) certification for LCY but I don't know whether the E190 has. I read someplace on here
53 RJ100 : Since I have not the time to write a real trip report just some remarks about my trip on Swiss' new service to LED. First the load factors: BSL to ZRH
54 RJ100 : BTW, what happened yesterday to the aircraft that departed ZRH 17:52 (I think it was a Swiss A-330). Just after lift off flames came out of the right
55 Sr176 : Oh, I missed something, I took of at 17:45. Must have been the flight to BOS.
56 Suluk : LX 52/14APR diverted back to ZRH due to an engine stall after take-off. A/C involved was HB-IQK and consequently LX52/53/14APR were cancelled. Moreove
57 AntonovA330 : Thanks for this brief insight. Nice to hear they serve a proper meal in Y for once. How was LED immigration?
58 RJ100 : Immigration took 5 minutes and bags already on the belt! Don't put anything important into the bags. Someone between Basel, Zürich and LED is frequen
59 Saab2000 : This has happened to me one two occasions!!!!! Both times on short flights. The first time was ZRH-LUG and the next time was DCA-ORF. Very frustrating
60 LXA340 : DME and LED are the only flights within europe where LX still serves proper meals. The A343 that was scheduled for ORD was sent to JFK instead, proba
61 AntonovA330 : That's good to hear! 5 minutes is a competitive amount of time! Sorry though for your eau de toilette. Up to date I've never heard of foul-smelling r
62 Saab2000 : You can fly three hours in the US and get nothing but a pouch of "Pilot Pellets (Peanuts)"!! Don't complain!! Also, where is LX going to find the pilo
63 Swissy : It is time to move my friend!!!!! , I know the cut off is 35....... however chance like that do not appear twice so jump on a , make the happy, land
64 Infodesk : RJ100 -glad you had a pleasant trip on LX and I hope that the LED route will prove to be a success. 15 minutes.....that has to be a record! I'm lookin
65 Post contains links HBDAN : Ok... I did know that FR charges for luggage, but I was amazed in seeing that for 1 checked in bag on a BSL-ALC-BSL rotation, they would charge me 90
66 Post contains links ZRH : The WEKO (Wettbewerbskommission = Anti Trust Authority) has approved the takeover from Edelweiss by SWISS. http://www.20min.ch/news/wirtschaft/story/1
67 Swissy : Thanks for the link ZRH, I just really hope they will keep it the way it is and perhaps get some bigger metal and give "Belair" (Air Berlin) a run fo
68 ZRH : Actually EDW has a quite big aircraft with the A 332.
69 LXA340 : Don't forget they are also looking at keeping a certain amount of A332's in their fleet and the amount they will be able to keep or if at all depends
70 Swissy : Sorry was not clear, perhaps more 332ssss ,grab some from LX as they exit service with LX.... Cheers,
71 RJ100 : I didn't make a pic of the LX meal unfortunately and I stopped making pics at Pulkovo since I received some trouble last time and needed to delete th
72 FlySwiss : I heard a rumour that TAM has requested slots for ZRH for next year's summer time table. Can somebody comfirm this. Cya Stefan
73 Post contains links ZRH : SWISS has now concluded a codeshare agreement with US Airways between ZRH and PHL. http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...0416.aspx?1208544799221&Coun
74 ZRH : If this was true it would be really great. I remember the good old days when you could see the Varig DC 10 and the Aerolineas Argentinas 747 in Zuric
75 SandroZRH : And don't forget that TAM used to serve ZRH before. Good news indeed, if true.
76 LXA340 : They came with A332's I think, not quite sure to where they were flying Recife or was it GRU? Here some passenger figures for 2007 for the SWISS rout
77 Post contains links ZRH : Quoting LXA340 (Reply 76): Here some passenger figures for 2007 for the SWISS route to TLV. They transported 227,500 passengers and the average SLF wa
78 Infodesk : I certainly will; the frequency with which this flight is cancelled is quite worrying....... Btw, DL67 to Atlanta had to return to Zurich this luncht
79 SandroZRH : Yeah, but since you can put the pax on a train which will take less than an hour to get them to Basel, it's always the first flight to be cancelled t
80 Viscount724 : CO has two 777-200ERs daily EWR-TLV.
81 LXA340 : What happened to HB-IQH (A332) yesterday that headed to Jeddah / Riyad, it returned around an hour after take off, but left ZRH again in the evening?
82 Helvknight : About time too, the flight's been running for a while. Will it be staying daily now or going back to 4x weekly in the off season. The codeshare shoul
83 SandroZRH : Just a wild guess, but it might have something to do with BD's BOB service? LX pax expect at least some form of complementary on board service and BD
84 LXA340 : There is also no codeshare agreement for flights to Australia out of BKK (TG) or SIN (SQ) and it's more than 2 years since LX joined star alliance and
85 Thomas_Jaeger : They were operating GRU-CDG-ZRH for a short time.
86 BSBIsland : Actually they flew GRU-FRA-ZRH, dropping ZRH in 2001 and then FRA in 2002.
87 RJ100 : Interesting statement from Helvetic Airways. In an interview, Mr. Ebner said they want grow the fleet up to 20 aircraft. Since they cannot operate so
88 LXA340 : I read articles about the interview in the Sonntags Blick and Sonntags Zeitung yesterday. It also said in one of the papers that Helvetic has recentl
89 Helvknight : Good point, then again the ZRH-EDI flight is operated by BD Regional which is full service (including a free bar in Y, complimentary sandwich without
90 Sailas : i want LX to serve Sauerkraut and those boiled sour sausages Imagine the beutiful smell. Or imagine that cheese form Jura they put in a wooden box, th
91 ZRH : Haha funny joke. Imagine the smell in the whole cabin! Poor passengers who don't like cheese. I know many people who refuse to go in a typical fondue
92 Sailas : Your very right But imagine the first airline to serve fondue, or raclette or thos special smelly chese i LOVE to death! Well we'll prolly see in the
93 Post contains links RJ100 : You're not alone out there http://www.cheeseair-va.ch/
94 Post contains links ZRH : It's your dream. But I invite you coming to Zurich. There is a so called Fondue Tram (streetcar) which runs in the winter season (a kind of driving f
95 Post contains links HBJZA : As I haven't seen any thread about Flybaboo (F7) so far, I think it's interesting to see how it is growing. Please have a look at their new destinatio
96 Knightsofmalta : Actually in the old days Swissair used to offer Raclette on the upper deck of the B. 747-200 for First Class Passengers. Kind of like having a "Stübl
97 LXM83 : Regarding Flybaoo: On March 13 they announced Jacques Bankir as the new CEO. A couple of days ago, I checked the "management team" in the "about us" s
98 HBJZA : I don't know what's wrong with the internet site but I can assure you that he is still there as I'm working for BBO....
99 LXA340 : I arrived on sunday at Dock E and construction at Terminal 2 has began already, the area where the passport control for imigration was is now under c
100 ZRH : Yes, I think this is possible. You have two tunnels and you can turn the train around into the other tunnel so a second can arrive immediately after
101 RJ100 : I just had a small view into the provisional list of Euro2008 charters into GVA and BSL. The airports will be nut houses during this time. Main operat
102 ZRH : cool to see a OS 777 here.
103 Post contains links ZRH : 20min.ch reports that a DL 767 had a tail strike taking off on r/w 16 at ZRH. They had to dump fuel over the Black Forest and return to ZRH. The aircr
104 AviationMaster : Was surfing around youtube today, as I had nothing better to do and found this nice video of SR's last B743 flight. Brings back good memories
105 ZRH : Thanks. Good old days. I almost broke out in tears . I do not remember how many times I flew the SR 747 (-200 and -300) to JFK and ATL. Best flight d
106 LXA340 : Thanks, yeah it makes sense. I think for now they only got 2 trains in total runing? Good old memories. I flew once on the ZRH-JFK-ZRH route with the
107 Helvknight : I think they usually run with 3 and turn them around at each end except in the early morning when it is just a 2 train service(it's a 2 train service
108 AntonovA330 : Oh man... I didn't remember they had blue/orange seats in Y... And the large screen in the middle section... I'll never forget the jump seat ride out
109 Viscount724 : If you are referring to Swissair's 747-300s, they originally had 3-3 economy class seating on the upper deck (69 seats if not mistaken). I flew on th
110 AviationMaster : They must have at some point in the early 90s, maybe even earlier. The times I got to fly on the upper deck (a couple of flights between 1995 and 199
111 Post contains links Yamatthey : You have to book through http://www.milesandmore.ch but you will have a 2'000 miles discount for online booking. ZRH - VIE = 30'000 miles in Economy
112 Viscount724 : Personally I have found that it's often not worth using miles for "free" tickets withiin Europe since the total of the taxes/fees/fuel surcharges etc
113 ZRH : I remember the SR DC 10 the 70ties where they had a 2-4-2 in economy (though no business yet). I was a teen boy and not as tall as now but pitch and
114 Viscount724 : Almost certainly 34 inches which was the maximum seat pitch agreed for economy class by IATA member carriers for many years. Even after they changed
115 ZRH : They changed the DC 10 from 2-4-2 to 2-4-3, as they also had in the MD 11. I still regard the 2-4-3 much better than the 2-5-2 or 3-3-3 in all aircra
116 RJ100 : Completely agree, I just purchased two award tickets and paid more than 500 CHF for "taxes and fees". Seeing that you hardly receive any miles for th
117 AntonovA330 : Thanks to you all for your help! What I was also wondering, if one "buys" just the outbound flight with miles, the return flight must then be booked
118 RJ100 : Online you can only book return flights. If you book oneway with miles you need to call the hotline. Be careful with that hotline however, it's Ryanai
119 LXA340 : What happened to HB-JMI at CAI today. It operated LX 236 as scheduled however the return flight to ZRH was cancelled, did it go tech? As a result toni
120 Viscount724 : Thanks. I knew their MD-11s had that configuration but forgot they also had it on DC-10s after they switched from 8 to 9 abreast. It must have been f
121 ZRH : I agree. I think you are right that the DC 10 had 2-5-2 and only the MD 11 3-4-2. Though I am not sure anymore.
122 LXA340 : Any info on the loads of the newly added routes to the SWISS network such as St. Petersburg, Florence and Sofia? Also has Delhi established itself wel
123 Legacy135 : You are right, I used to work on those and SR had this horrible "double-middle-seat" in the 2-5-2 configuration. On the other hand, BB's HB-IHK had a
124 TUNisia : I'm flying Swiss this August for a summer vacation to Europe. I'll be flying LAX-ZRH-FCO and spending time in Italy and then flying to ATH on A3 and s
125 Helvknight : On the LAX flight I think you'll be te 343 which means that you'll get the AVOD system rather than the older loop system that you get on the 332s. It
126 Knightsofmalta : It´s more a case of one meal and one small snack before arrival in economy class. Regrettably, LAX is a station which gets a lot of complaints for t
127 CX288 : For the sake of completeness, this summer the new Shanghai service, operated by an A-340, will also arrive around that time (LX 189 arr 15:40), yet a
128 LXA340 : What happened to LX299 from Jeddah / Rihad this morning it arrived around one hour late and made a uplaned stop at LCA I would assume medical emergenc
129 DeltaWings : delays...absolutely not at that time up to 20 min can go by without an airplane landing
130 Post contains links Viasa : Here is a picture of the new livery of Flybaboo. I don't like it, too much white!!! http://www.aeroworldnews.com.br/foto_detalhe.php?codigo=3954
131 HBJZA : That's not the full final livery as some more painting are going to be added in the paintshop in AMS. But that's all I can tell you so far as there g
132 Lsgg : Hope so ! But the beginning doesn't tell much good I think. How borring (tail)...
133 Post contains links AntonovA330 : In todays NZZ there's an article of some NG C-class seats (which can of course also be implemented to Y and F). It further says that LX is keeping an
134 ZRH : And they also say that 10 A 330 from a European airline will be fitted with them. I know that SWISS only ordered 9 A 333 but could they although be i
135 Aviationmaster : Interesting article - thanks for that. From the way the last part is written - especially the spring 2009 introduction - it seems like a direct hint
136 RootsAir : Hi folks! I'm back here on a.net after 3 months of training in the military medical troops in Switzerland to become an officer, I'm happy to collabora
137 LXA340 : Let's see supposedly the first A333 is scheduled to arrive in december and go into scheduled service early January. Anyway it slowly gets time that w
138 AviationMaster : Doesn't Finnair also have a couple of A333s on order which are scheduled for delivery sometime around next year? Maybe it's them?
139 ZRH : You are right. I am really curious. I think we have to ask Sandro if he can get some insider news .
140 Andaman : AY is receiving eight A333's 2009-10, plus two options left.
141 OHLHD : Just found out by chance that Austrian is using widebodies ( 767 and 777 ) between VIE and ZRH. ( I am booked already ). Does Swiss has plans to do th
142 Viasa : I think it's Aeroflot... they have 10 A330-200 on order.
143 ZRH : There is something wrong with the system. Why did my answer in the Swiss Aviation Thread 16 generate an new thread with same name???? Can a moderator
144 HBJZA : Good that you don't have high expectation, at least you won't be disappointed when the final livery will be unweilled !!!! I also don't like it very
145 OHLHD : I just wanted o add that OS is only using them during the EURO 2008.
146 Knightsofmalta : HI all, Just for your info. The new LX C class seat will be unveiled end of May.
147 LXA340 : Thanks for the info
148 Post contains images AntonovA330 : Awesome! How about these new seats? Is LX a candidate of them? Sorry, I think I just have to wait and see...[Edited 2008-04-30 15:32:36]
149 Knightsofmalta : Well to be honest I don´t know if they will be these new pneumatic seats. If I´m not mistaken, the seat is being produced by Recaro. I asked a frien
150 LXA340 : What about the New F and Y seats will they be presented simultaniously?
151 AviationMaster : Does anyone know what's wrong with Continental flight 079 today? It currently is expected to depart at 10pm with a delay of aprox. 12 hours.
152 Post contains links HT : Just a reminder, as people do not expect to have the 2008 ZRH-Meeting thread over in Non-av ...: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ms/non_aviatio
153 LXA340 : How much slower does the Privatair B737BBJ fly when jetstreams are very strong especially in winter between ZRH and NYC compared to the LX A330/A340's
154 HBDAN : From ATW online: Embraer delivered the first 100-seat E-190 to Switzerland's Flybaboo, which is leasing the aircraft from M1 Travel of Lebanon (ATWOnl
155 Post contains links Helvknight : The trial has opened at the Federal Court in Bellinzona of Moritz Suter and Andre Dose over the 2001 Bassersdorf crash http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/fro
156 LXA340 : What for specifications do the planes have to feature this?
157 Post contains links Nyswiss : I have this from the FOX news channel: http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/mar...light-simulators-valued-c-million/ Swiss Aviation Training CAE sold a CA
158 LXA340 : Judging the statment it looks like the LH pilots will also be trained for the EMB 190 at SAT and not at Lufthansa technik. But the reason the Simulat
159 ZRH : I know that the EMB 170 is LCY certified. What's with the 190? This would be indispensable for SWISS to replace the AVROs.
160 LXA340 : Not yet but it's a proforma thing, just like with the A318. However only Embraers with special specification will be able to fly to LCY. I gues thing
161 Viscount724 : Why would the BBJ be affected more by headwinds than any other aircraft type? The groundspeed of all aircraft will be reduced by the headwind compone
162 Legacy135 : I only can talk now about the ERJ135 and the Legacy, both can go steep approach when having the mod, not so the 145. But I can well imagine that on t
163 LXA340 : The B737NG's in general are slower also than the A32S. For instance the LY (B737/8) and LX (A343) flights out of TLV have the same departure time for
164 Viscount724 : My point was that if both aircraft were flying into the same headwind, they would both be affected equally and their groundspeed would be reduced by
165 SandroZRH : I saw it parked on a remote stand at GVA yesterday. Actually, our crewbus drove right past it. I don't like their new livery, a real shame, because t
166 Post contains links and images HBDAN : I saw a picture going around of it. If I remember well its an all white livery with red tail and Baboo is written vertically on the tail (in white ch
167 Post contains images AntonovA330 : I asked this a few weeks ago but got no reply yet How much of runway 16/34 has been finished/renewed by now? There are some press reports every now an
168 LXA340 : That's true. Probably the reason for a difference of 1 hour (gate to gate time) what I saw a few times was caused through congestion. no available ga
169 Post contains links and images Lsgg :
170 Viasa : In the "Tagi" from yesterday is a short article that Swiss will fit ten A330 (i think A330-200) with the new business class seat. If this would be a
171 LXA340 : Theoretically LX has 11 A332's currently in the fleet however 2 are scheduled to leave this year and although LX does consider to keep some of it's A
172 AviationMaster : Interesting! I hope there is an announcment soon. After having checked the site of the company that manufactures the new seat, and the fact that they
173 LXA340 : This is so true and the IFE is also in desperate need of change. if LX will not think of a solution soon those seats will be around till 2011 which w
174 OHLHD : Can anyone help me: Which are the Air Berlin B 757-200 routes out of ZRH? I believe one is to TXL. Many thanks!
175 Infodesk : Air Berlin do indeed use the 757 to Berlin, currently on AB8121, departing ZRH at 0650, on Mondays and Tuesdays
176 ZRH : I can't answer your question. But they can do up to 70 meters per night and want to be finished till late autumn, depending on the weather.
177 LXA340 : In the winter timetable there were 2 weekly flights to NUE leaving tuesday and thursday morning at around 6:30 AM and arriving back to ZRH at around
178 Post contains links RJ100 : In yesterday's verdict, all 6 accused ex-Crossair managers, including M. Suter and A. Dosé, were found "not guilty" in all points. Serious questions
179 LXA340 : Once the last 2 A340 will be delivered to LX by July, the MIA route will be operated by A340's and the 2nd one will be BOS or will BOS remain a mix of
180 Post contains links SandroZRH : Interesting revelations at our latest student meeting, read more here: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3988367/
181 LXA340 : Indeed, thanks for posting the link
182 Knightsofmalta : Pictures of the new SWISS Business Class seat are now online at SWISS.COM
183 Post contains links FelixZRH : Thanks a lot. Here is a direct link: http://www.swiss.com/web/DE/services...ess_class/Pages/business_seat.aspx Did you notice that there is a picture
184 Knightsofmalta : Yeah, the actual pics were taken only recently although the model of the seat has been at SWISS for quite some time now. I like it. Interesting to see
185 Post contains images ZRH : Where did you find this? I did not find it at the posted SWISS link (or did I not look well?   ) BTW the description of these seats sounds good. It
186 Knightsofmalta : It's right there on the homepage, under the banner advertising cheap fares. But I wouldn't be too sure the A. 340s will be getting this seat as well.
187 Post contains links ZRH : They will: http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...0521.aspx?1211375975534&Country=CH
188 ZRH : An other quote from the SWISS press release: So finally we can expect SWISS to have a consistent business class product from 2011 on. One question sta
189 AntonovA330 : Hooray!! The new seat looks really good! Is it this which LH wanted to implement on the A380? Also, are there plans to change Y-class interiour?
190 LXA340 : That's so true. It really gets time. I hope this will also be the same system on the whole fleet. The seats really look awsome.
191 Knightsofmalta : No, that´s going to be in Economy class.
192 LXA340 : The press release said, that LX plans to have 1/3 of it's long haul fleet with the new C Class by the end of 2009. Meaning 8 frames. So 4 new A333's a
193 LXA340 : What happened to LX256 last night it departd ZRH on time at 22:48 and arrived TLV at 7:25 in the morning did it go tech and returned to ZRH and left a
194 Ka : Or 4 new A333 and 4 A343. KA.
195 LXA340 : This is probably more like it. Quite hilarious if some of those 4 will be the ex AC ones. In less than 3 years they would get 2 new pairs of seats an
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