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Rumor Of A Furlough Announcement Friday...  
User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13312 times:

My brother who is now a baby Captain on E-170/-175 for Republic, was just told that Midwest Airlines was to announce furloughs this Friday. Has anyone else heard this?


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 13246 times:

Well...yea....Skyways just shut down and they are a part of Midwest Air Group. It only goes to they will let pilots go......


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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 13223 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
Well...yea....Skyways just shut down and they are a part of Midwest Air Group. It only goes to they will let pilots go......

Could be Skyways he way thinking about, here's a link to the story:

http://www.wisn.com/money/15803939/detail.html



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User currently offlineN917me From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12911 times:

First off.. It is called SKYWAY. Not SKYWAYS

User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12851 times:



Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Thread starter):
My brother who is now a baby Captain on E-170/-175 for Republic, was just told that Midwest Airlines was to announce furloughs this Friday. Has anyone else heard this?

Why would someone at Republic know anything that was going on internally at YX?


User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3707 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12851 times:
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Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Thread starter):
My brother who is now a baby Captain on E-170/-175 for Republic, was just told that Midwest Airlines was to announce furloughs this Friday. Has anyone else heard this?

I have been told that Midwest Exec met with the ALPA MEC-Chariman and furloughs will be announced on Friday for Midwest Airlines. We shall see what happens. People need to remember that just because TPG owns YX now, that doesn't give them a get out of jail free card. Matalin Patterson owns TZ and when they couldn't make it happen anymore they cut TZ loose. I have a lot of friends at YX, so I hope that this is all rumor and that it doesn't happen.

On a side note, anyone know what if any fallout has happened at YX due to the wiring bundle issues on the MD-80's?



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User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4022 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12851 times:

Why would a line pilot for Republic be informed of any sort of action concerning the pilot group of Midwest? I fail to draw the parallel here.




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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12779 times:



Quoting N917me (Reply 3):
It is called SKYWAY.

It WAS called Skyway.  Wink



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12711 times:



Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 6):
Why would a line pilot for Republic be informed of any sort of action concerning the pilot group of Midwest?

Probably by talking to other pilots.



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User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12673 times:

Technically, Skyway still exists. The company has given up its certificate to fly, however it is now a ground service company.

User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12647 times:



Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 6):
Why would a line pilot for Republic be informed of any sort of action concerning the pilot group of Midwest? I fail to draw the parallel here.

Did i not say he was informed it was a rumor. he could not be sure. that's why I posted it here to see if this could be true. obviously it very well could be now after what Airtran737 posted:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 5):
I have been told that Midwest Exec met with the ALPA MEC-Chariman and furloughs will be announced on Friday for Midwest Airlines. We shall see what happens. People need to remember that just because TPG owns YX now, that doesn't give them a get out of jail free card. Matalin Patterson owns TZ and when they couldn't make it happen anymore they cut TZ loose. I have a lot of friends at YX, so I hope that this is all rumor and that it doesn't happen.

If i have nothing to add to this, then just keep reading and don't comment.



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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12455 times:



Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 10):
Did i not say he was informed it was a rumor.

Actually you didn't, but I assumed as much. I guess we'll see what happens.


User currently offlineRJNUT From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12431 times:

Grounding of their MD80 series? it would make sense for them to go with one A/c type until such time they get new A/C! Kind of like the SKyway Dornier 328 grounding...Just guessing here!

User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 12078 times:



Quoting Newark777 (Reply 7):
It WAS called Skyway.

Isn;t Skyway a bar that is right to the side of the runway at 3W2?



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User currently offlineSideflare75 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 613 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11621 times:

It must be true they just talked about it on the 10:00 news. They mentioned flight cuts and possible pilot furloughs along with pay cuts for captains. According to the news this came from the pilots union.

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 5):
On a side note, anyone know what if any fallout has happened at YX due to the wiring bundle issues on the MD-80's?

As for the MD-80's, they are being inspected yet again. The FAA really has a problem with this AD and how was accomplished by all the airlines obviously. All planes should be good to go by morning...again.


User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3707 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11446 times:
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Quoting Sideflare75 (Reply 14):
It must be true they just talked about it on the 10:00 news. They mentioned flight cuts and possible pilot furloughs along with pay cuts for captains. According to the news this came from the pilots union.

What staion carried it? I am looking, but not finding much.



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User currently offlineRJNUT From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9283 times:



Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 15):
What staion carried it? I am looking, but not finding much.

Bank on it being MCI.....they have no more commitment here other than LGA and DCA slots!


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6532 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9223 times:



Quoting Newark777 (Reply 8):
Probably by talking to other pilots.

The point people are making is how would any pilot for any airline know. Pilots are not in the loop on corporate planning.


User currently offlineMKENut From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 699 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9099 times:



Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 15):
What staion carried it? I am looking, but not finding much.

I missed it too... But I think TMJ4 had it on the news last night. Here is the link.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/17449459.html


User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2177 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9033 times:

http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/17455574.html

Midwest Airlines is temporarily canceling many of its flights, and permanently canceling other routes, and canceling some of its pilot's jobs.

Midwest has canceled some of its flights so that crews can inspect all of Midwest's MD-80's this morning

The airline voluntarily canceled all flights involving the 13 MD-80's in the Midwest Fleet.

MD-80's are the same planes that caused American Airlines enough problems to make them cancel 2,400 flights this week.

A Midwest spokesperson says the airline's doing this voluntarily, and they hope to get those planes back and running as soon as possible.

Cost Of Oil Forces Route Cuts, Pilot Cuts

Midwest is making some permanent cuts in flights and jobs.

The airline has to re-arrange its schedule, and it's telling pilots that some layoffs, and temporary pay cuts, are coming.

The reason? The high price of oil, which frequent flyer Kevin Boehlke sees both at the gas pump and the airport.

"With the cost of gasoline, I believe it's affecting the entire airline industry," said Boehlke.

Some analysts say jet fuel costs 62% more than it did last year.

That costs Midwest millions of dollars, which reaches Boehlke in both the pocketbook and the flight options he has.

"With flights not being available, that certainly can put some restrictions on the business traveler," states Boehlke.

Most of the affected routes will come out of it's secondary Kansas City hub.

A spokesman said that the airlines analyzing the cost-effectiveness of every route.


User currently offlineManfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8079 times:



Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 6):
Why would a line pilot for Republic be informed of any sort of action concerning the pilot group of Midwest? I fail to draw the parallel here.



Quoting Newark777 (Reply 8):
Probably by talking to other pilots.

Brilliant. Obviously some people don't know that pilots have a tendency to talk with OTHER pilots.



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User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7755 times:



Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Thread starter):
My brother who is now a baby Captain on E-170/-175 for Republic, was just told that Midwest Airlines was to announce furloughs this Friday. Has anyone else heard this?



Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 5):
I have been told that Midwest Exec met with the ALPA MEC-Chariman and furloughs will be announced on Friday for Midwest Airlines. We shall see what happens. People need to remember that just because TPG owns YX now, that doesn't give them a get out of jail free card. Matalin Patterson owns TZ and when they couldn't make it happen anymore they cut TZ loose. I have a lot of friends at YX, so I hope that this is all rumor and that it doesn't happen.

I don't think this has anything to do with Skyway.

I believe Midwest will announce the retirement of the MD-80's with immediate effect and therefore putting a lot of people, pilots and other employees on the street.

What a shame. That was one part of the TPG deal that didn't rub me right, they should of had a guarantee for all employees of Midwest that if a restructuring occurred they would get a severance. Now they will get a pink slip and a check for a couple weeks. CRAP.Good luck guys and gals.



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7565 times:



Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 17):

The point people are making is how would any pilot for any airline know. Pilots are not in the loop on corporate planning.

You don't think rumors get out?



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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6532 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6740 times:



Quoting Newark777 (Reply 22):
You don't think rumors get out?

Yes rumors do get out, but very seldom to true facts get and particularly not to pilots. The starter of this tread has not said anything about where his rumor originated other than from himself.


User currently offlineD328 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 6312 times:

my friend at expressjet took a voluntary 3 month leave starting at the end of the month....what do you all make of that?

25 Post contains links MKENut : Here is what the union is saying about cutbacks for Midwest. Full JSOnline story here: http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=4/10/2008&id=38219
26 Post contains links Knope2001 : Business Journal of Milwaukee reports 35 layoffs. http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee...04/07/daily42.html?f=et68&ana=e_du Also about 22 low-seniorit
27 Sideflare75 : This isn't about retiring the -80's. As stated most of these cuts are affecting MCI and only one -80 flight goes through there. This is simply about
28 Silver1SWA : Rumors spread the way they do thanks to pilots (and flight attendants)!
29 B757capt : Your missing the point in my post. This is not the only announcement you will see from YX. Midwest just retired 1 md-80 bringing the fleet down to 12
30 Treebeard787 : "Sorry wrong thread."[Edited 2008-04-11 08:39:00]
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