This is a genuine question - is the name 'pencil of death' really deserved? How many accidents has this type actually suffered? Do you have any particularly alarming stats you could quote about the aircraft?
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Qantas767 From Australia, joined Jul 2000, 101 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7719 times:
Among the the pilots that I fly with the metro is either described as the pencil of Death or the Lawn dart. However I am aware that a majority of the accidents are from pilot error.
There have been more than a few crashes of the Metro in Australia and in New Zealand. As most would know we don't have a large accident rate down here in the RPT world - especially when it comes to large transports. Off the top of my head I would have to say that as far as accidents on Australian soil the Metro would probably be one of the largest aircraft to have crashed, with fatalities here in a while - if not at all. So when it crashes it tends to stay in the news for a long time. Look at Qantas - the media was in a feeding frenzy over the abort at LAX. I would hate to see how the Australian media would react to a large, Australian airliner going down over SYD or BNE...
Ferrypilot From New Zealand, joined Sep 2006, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2746 times:
Twenty years ago I used to work with a guy whose previous employment had included test flying the English Electric Lightning for Rolls Royce (one of the first Mach 2 capable fighters) and so on the strength of that information alone I had to figure he knew something about flying machines.
Well one day we were flying along in a Falcon 20 and the Merlin cropped up in conversation. I had heard that he had flown them and the sleek "hot ship" appearance of the Merlin had often appealed to me, so I was interested to hear his opinion of the aircraft.
Although it was a long time ago I still clearly recall that he was very down on the Merlin, inferring that it was a dangerous machine and best stayed away from. ...That from a "Lightning test pilot" was worth taking on board !!
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8561 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2526 times:
Quoting Qantas767 (Reply 5): Look at Qantas - the media was in a feeding frenzy over the abort at LAX. I would hate to see how the Australian media would react to a large, Australian airliner going down over SYD or BNE...
This is true - the Aussie media is obsessed with air disasters, I remember being in Sydney watching the news and a JAL 747-200 (this was in the 80s or 90s) had done an aborted takeoff in Moscow, at the start of a flight to Tokyo. This was like the second highest piece in the Australian evening news. I bet it was barely news in the staff canteen at Sherymetyevo. So yes, I have often thought exactly, if a large Australian airliner went down over SYD or BNE, the media would just completely freak out. Probably for years. 9/11 + Diana + choir singing "When You Get To Heaven What Do You Think You'll Say (You'll Say G'Day)" = $$$.
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Jbguller From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2329 times:
Weather conditions were good at the time of the accident, as far as I remember. I live about half an hour from where they're conducting the search (relatively) and weather was good at that time of night. There has been a fair bit of cloud and rain around recently though.