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Merger: Delta Pilots Ok Merger - Bloomberg  
User currently offlineRumorboy From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 355 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15673 times:

Delta Accord Paves Way for Northwest Deal, People Say (Update1)



April 10 (Bloomberg) -- Delta Air Lines Inc. and its pilots agreed on a tentative contract to clear the way for a merger with Northwest Airlines Corp. that would create the world's largest carrier, people familiar with the talks said.

The pilot accord includes higher pay and an equity stake in the combined airline, which would keep Delta's name and Atlanta headquarters, said the people, who didn't want to be identified because the plan is still private. The tie-up may be announced next week, the people said.

The merger includes a small premium for Northwest investors, three of the people said.



http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...=aL1DrVDvgkI0&refer=transportation

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User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15664 times:

told you months ago that DL and AF were creating the world's first truly global airline partnership.

I never believed they were going to give up.

Apparently Mr. Steenland will get his $8M bonus by June afterall.

Everyone should be happy.

I'm booking my first DL A330 flight now.


User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1624 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15580 times:

OK...

Lets do the MICA (NWA) silver fuselage with the new DELTA typeset... Oh, and flip the tail widget to it's "correct upright position"...

It will be interesting to see how this merger plays out. Will it be successful longterm, past the teething problems mergers create?

Curiousity wise... Can anyone properly map out the entire lineage of the combined airline?



AC.WA.CP.DL.RW.CO.WG.WJ.WN.KI.FL.SK.ACL.UA.US.F9
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15563 times:



Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 1):
I'm booking my first DL A330 flight now.

Let's not get too ahead of ourselves.  Wink



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineJustloveplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1037 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15524 times:

Weren't the NW pilots the previous barrier? Are they on board?

User currently offlineNycbjr From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15379 times:

hmmm seems fishy to me..

Quoting Rumorboy (Thread starter):
The tie-up may be announced next week, the people said.

man I hate waiting. first the 787 delays... now this.. why must we wait?!

cheers


User currently offlineMarksixel From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15324 times:

Rikkus67


Curiousity wise... Can anyone properly map out the entire lineage of the combined airline?




http://www.sixelconsulting.com/blog/.../2008/03/nw_dl_routes_2_08_web.jpg


User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 15251 times:



Quoting Justloveplanes (Reply 4):
Weren't the NW pilots the previous barrier?

the point is they don't have to approve the merger. They will have to agree to seniority integration but for now DL is proposing allowing the merger to proceed based on maintaining the fleet separately.

Given that NW will continue to park DC9s and that rate will certainly accelerate if NW becomes a subsidiary of DL AND given that NW's 787s have just been delayed again AND given that the NW pilots will get a far larger pay raise by agreeing to the merger and integrating with DL than DL pilots will get, I suspect they will decide that one of the proposals DALPA put forward isn't so bad afterall.


User currently offlineORD Boy 2 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 285 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 15105 times:

here we go next up will be UA and CO

User currently offlineOkie73 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 15077 times:



Quoting Newark777 (Reply 3):
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves

I agree. You don't know what's in the tentative agreement and you don't know if it will pass a vote of the Delta pilots.


User currently offlineFlyingcat From United States of America, joined May 2007, 540 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14995 times:

DL contract had strong anti merger clauses that require pilot approval. That was the main reason that DL and UA did not hook up in the 90s. DL pilots probably saw their increase go right into the gas tank and now have cashed in their chip at the big poker airline game for a chance to play globally and hopefully improve the entire merged airline.

Next step is the merger with AF/KLM. Negotiations between the EU and US will begin soon enough for clearance in 2010. Now that the legacies appetites for LHR have been satisfied they will lobby hard to keep LHR and thus will have to lobby for complete open skies.


User currently offlineBAW716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2027 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14996 times:



Quoting Okie73 (Reply 9):
I agree. You don't know what's in the tentative agreement and you don't know if it will pass a vote of the Delta pilots.

We also haven't heard from the NW pilots yet and the last offer they got from NW management was an insult...so this isn't done by a long shot. The NW pilots side of this deal is going to be the sticky point, since Delta will be the surviving carrier, its the NW pilots that are going to be most affected out of all the union groups. The major issue is migrating seniority and that to a pilot is more important than money...evidently.

I do believe the deal will happen, but announced in the next two weeks? I doubt it. Unless the NW pilots get a deal they simply can't refuse.

baw716



David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 14881 times:



Quoting Flyingcat (Reply 10):
Now that the legacies appetites for LHR have been satisfied they will lobby hard to keep LHR and thus will have to lobby for complete open skies.

Garbage. That is not going to happen (well the lobbying will, but the result won't). The LHR "bait and switch" was not contractual within the open skies framework. And with 60 Democrats in the Senate and a Dem in the white house, it ain't gonna happen.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineCALeeIII From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14593 times:

[quote=Rikkus67,reply=2]Lets do the MICA (NWA) silver fuselage with the new DELTA typeset... Oh, and flip the tail widget to it's "correct upright position".../quote]

Big version: Width: 1021 Height: 459 File size: 104kb


User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1624 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14502 times:

Marksixel...

Thanks for the routemap of the proposed merger. What I was actually looking for was the previous airlines that were merged into NWA and into Delta through the years... what I do know:

NWA
Republic (North Central / Southern / Hughes Airwest - Hughes bought AirWest, the result of a previous merger of three smaller airlines)

Delta
Western Airlines & Northeast Airlines

...but are there any others?



AC.WA.CP.DL.RW.CO.WG.WJ.WN.KI.FL.SK.ACL.UA.US.F9
User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14468 times:



Quoting BAW716 (Reply 11):
The NW pilots side of this deal is going to be the sticky poin

I believe the point is that the NW pilots don't have to agree to the merger. NW can be acquired and as long as DL operates NW as a separate subsidiary, the NW pilots don't have any grounds for objection. Since NW is and will continue to ground DC9s, their 787s are almost 2 years late (no pilot growth), and DL's pilots will get pay increases that will widen the gap between DL and NW pilots, the NW pilots have lots of reasons to sign a union seniority agreement.


User currently offlineFlightopsguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14435 times:



Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 14):
Hughes bought AirWest, the result of a previous merger of three smaller airlines)

Pacific, West Coast, and Bonanza.

Delta absorbed Chicago and Southern sometime in the early 50's.



A300-330 BAC111/146/J31/41 B99/1900 CV580 B707-777 DC8/9/10 L188/1011 FH227/28/100 SB340 DO228 EMB2/170 CR2-900 SH330-60
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4742 posts, RR: 45
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14280 times:

Courtesy of Jetabout...


http://www.freewebs.com/jetabout/delta/DAL744pw.jpg



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineOcracoke From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 680 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14159 times:



Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 14):
Delta
Western Airlines & Northeast Airlines

...but are there any others?

C & S (Chicago and Southern) and Pan Am (major parts of).


User currently offlineFlyingcat From United States of America, joined May 2007, 540 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 14040 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 12):
Garbage. That is not going to happen (well the lobbying will, but the result won't). The LHR "bait and switch" was not contractual within the open skies framework. And with 60 Democrats in the Senate and a Dem in the white house, it ain't gonna happen.

Actually the EU reserves the right to repeal the agreement and has been vocal that it will be taken away if their is no movement on the ownership issue. The negotiations will occur after the election is over so President Obama has plenty of time to burn bridges and rebuild them for 2012.

Alot of the Dems were for NAFTA before they were against it and besides the EU carriers will be falling all over to make a deal with cold hard cash.

We are seeing the first "musical chairs" phase of mergers for US legacies. When international mergers begin, the legacy who does not merge with an EU carrier will be out on a limb to find enough capital to refleet with modern types and pay for the next wave of expansion.

It all about economies of scale and AF/KLM has enough to just trounce around Europe and buy out carriers. They are focused on AZ for now but their $750 million is buying them a board seat in DL/NW. If AZ does not work out they might make a move on IB.


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 14003 times:



Quoting Rumorboy (Thread starter):
The tie-up may be announced next week, the people said.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard this...



The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11413 posts, RR: 62
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13972 times:



Quoting Flyingcat (Reply 20):
Actually the EU reserves the right to repeal the agreement and has been vocal that it will be taken away if their is no movement on the ownership issue.

And the U.S. will be all too happy to call their bluff.

If the E.U. really wants to destroy the new aviation regime now in place over the Atlantic over a demand they know full well they won't get soon, if ever, then let them go ahead.

The problem for the E.U. is this: them killing the current deal really doesn't mean much to the U.S. The U.S. doesn't really care all that much and would be far more willing to give up what little they gained from the present deal than give up all that would be required from allowing cabotage - and getting nothing back in return.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13839 times:



Quoting Commavia (Reply 22):
The problem for the E.U. is this: them killing the current deal really doesn't mean much to the U.S. The U.S. doesn't really care all that much and would be far more willing to give up what little they gained from the present deal than give up all that would be required from allowing cabotage - and getting nothing back in return.

Yep, if CO merges with UA, that means it's just DL-NW and US who would lose LHR rights, but so would AF to the USA and BMI to the USA and BA from CDG to the USA, etc. There's more for the EU to lose!



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlinePiedmontINT From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13811 times:

I still prefer this one!

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00009095.jpg

But this superdeal with AF/KL should DL and NW merge that everyone keeps talking about will not go through. The Feds simply wont allow a large foreign carrier to merge with such a large combined DL/NW. The anti-trust issues alone I think would be enough to stop it, let alone the rules of a foreign company owning a US one.


User currently onlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13740 times:



Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 2):
Lets do the MICA (NWA) silver fuselage with the new DELTA typeset



Quoting CALeeIII (Reply 13):

I like the concept with the Delta Widget pointing northwest in homage to NW. I think the font could use some work, too bold, needs some more kearning and a little thinner like the new D E L T A scheme.


25 CIDflyer : My question is, if they were to keep Northwest as a subsidiary to keep the pilots separate, would they repaint the NWA fleet into Delta colors, and ad
26 Lono : From the article... "To work around the impasse, Delta wants to draw up a new contract with just its 7,000 pilots, said the people. Northwest's 5,000
27 Okie73 : He is correct. NW has no contractual grounds to stop it if Delta operates NW as a subsidiary. Depends on what the new contractual language for the De
28 Ikramerica : There is nothing preventing the pilots from having 2 unions (which of course are the same union). The NW union can strike it's own deal with the airl
29 Nwaflyer : Anyone hear about the state of Minnesota and the agreements they have with NW? Expect a fight and rightfully so. As a NW passanger and MN taxpayer it
30 Alitalia744 : A one-time payment can satisfy the agreements they have with NW. $240MM can be factored into forecasts for the plan....
31 Okie73 : actually the direction it is going, the agreement with Minnesota will not be affected. I think that Delta and NW will be merged under a single holdin
32 Nwaflyer : One quarter billion. Sounds logical.
33 Alitalia744 : It can be in many ways...
34 WorldTraveler : no. DL wants a single airline run from ATL with one management team. All DL has to do is threaten to pull down the MSP hub if MN demands payment. Or
35 DLPhoenix : If they don't agree with both unions this will make the AW-US merger look good. Delta's biggest asset is its employee relations. They are the only ai
36 Lightsaber : I oscillate on that one. CO is very healthy right now. I'm not sure it would help them mid-term to merge with UA. And all growth would be on the DL s
37 Bobnwa : Why is having a res office in the Iron Range any different than having a res office in MSP or TPA or anywhere else?
38 Travelin man : Approximately (or, at least, approaching) zero. CVG is subsumed by DTW, and MEM is dropped in favor of ATL. Seriously. "The announcement will be next
39 Airbusaddict : What if this goes like AW-US? It wouldnt be a merger if everything moved to ATL. Thats like a merger and a buyout put together, (i hope you get what
40 DTWAGENT : If and when this takes place. What will happen to DTW World Hub. Will DL keep it? Also, what about MSP and MEM and SFO. I hope this merger does go thr
41 Alitalia744 : As already indicated, the efficiencies and synergies on a cost side and increased revenue opportunities on the earn side can more than offset the $25
42 WNCrew : WHEW! Glad to know the pilots got what they wanted! Can you imagine if a merger were held off because of what the flight attendants wanted....ha ha ha
43 WorldTraveler : it won't. DL knows it needs NW and isn't about ready to destroy what NW has built. All of you are worrying about the MN contract but I can assure you
44 DeltaL1011man : ughhhh.........how many times has this one been said? I don't even care anymore.......just get it over with or don't do it........getting a little ol
45 Halls120 : It is, and unless the NW pilots drop their seniority demands, the DL pilots will be more than just a speed bump in the mad rush to merge.
46 Asuflyer05 : Whatever they do or who they merge with, they need to keep the hot flight attendant chick in the safety videos. I will fly Northelta as long as she wa
47 WingnutMN : As a pilot for XJ, I look at this merger and think...Will I still have a job? everyone keeps worrying about the pilots of DL and NW, but what about th
48 Alias1024 : I could be wrong, but I've heard that the current DL pilot contract does not allow for the company to operate two separate seniority lists, and requi
49 DL Widget Head : It amazes me that some people view these issues as insurmountable or deal breakers. There are a lot of smart people from both airlines as well as a b
50 Jetlanta : Exactly. In fact this is entirely the plan. People need to understand the the economics of this industry are now so DIRE that most of the concerns ex
51 GayStudPilot : How much will be lost in the deal valuation if the combined entity is not allowed to capture the full value of an integrated pilot workforce? In terms
52 PlanesNTrains : From my very limited experience in watching mountains move for the right price in government, I would say that writing a check is pretty much a done
53 Lono : Indeed.... 2 pilot groups... treated differently.... us and them.... same paint scheme... same company To say nothing how the other groups will or wi
54 ScottB : Well, interestingly, the near-complete lack of overlap of fleet types among the two carriers (basically, only the 757 is common to both) means that t
55 Cospn : I Guess Larry at CO better get his $100 bill ready to go to MSP and buy back the 'Goldenshare" .....
56 DeltaL1011man : wait.........TechOps can and I'm pretty sure does do work on A32S with CFM engines (which i think is what NWA's A32S have?)
57 Alias1024 : Do you think you could possibly write that in a more smug and condescending tone? I have no objection to the concept of Delta and Northwest merging.
58 Ikramerica : Then ALPA should fix it. Get their two unions together. But as long as ALPA remains inept in that regard, there will be two unions at DeltaWest, and
59 B777ER : Wow..someone has an inferiority complex.
60 Nasmal : Delta overhauls CFM56-3, -7 engines
61 M404 : WNCrew I understand your sentiments coming from one of the forgotten NW corps in this deal. It's pretty sickening hearing nothing but trying to satisf
62 NWAESC : That's a long road, WT. Pride runs deep at NWA. It might be a dysfunctional family, but it's *our* family, you know? Also. for a lot of folks it's ha
63 Bobnwa : Neither DL or NW has ever said when a merger would likely be announced.That has always been done on this board or by the uninformed news media. This
64 MarSciGuy : You seem a TAD overconfident there buddy
65 WorldTraveler : wrong. as Jetlanta has previously said, there is significant benefit to be gained form refleeting the combined airline - using 330s on DL routes, MD8
66 Cloudboy : No, the stock investors gain a lot more. When all is said and done, a company that may be profitable but got that way because it has gotten rid of ha
67 Jetlanta : I apologize if my post came off as smug and condescending. It was late and I was just in from an evening out. I may have been in rare form. But I bel
68 Tinpusher007 : Well, regarding this latest development, I just don't see how this is going to work with DALPA cutting a deal that NWALPA is not privy to and then ask
69 Lightsaber : Probably. It makes no sense to operate them as full hubs. With oil over $100/bbl, the CRJ model is broken. Both NW and DL must cut back on 50 seater
70 NWAESC : Assuming DL's benefits/work rules are eventually what "stands," I will lose hundreds-if not thousands of $$$ annually in increased medical costs. I w
71 Hloutweg : It seems very obvious today that Delta had always in its eye a merger with Northwest and they expressed it in it's current livery very boldly.
72 NwAflyer07 : I wonder what'l happen to us ground workers? The IAM is 100% against the merger and plans to fight it to the death, however do they even have any real
73 Lightsaber : Why are they 100% against the merger? It will save employee jobs long term. Only if their host airline prospers will the jobs continue. As far as the
74 Commavia : Personally, I don't think so. I think - and have long said - that when booking back in the long view of history ten or twenty years from now, the Nor
75 Bmacleod : With the new delays in the 787 program I guess it's safe to say we won't be seeing the 787 in NW colors...only DL? The A330s should stay until 2010 at
76 Lono : They should be.... DL will replace with DGS Because DL had -0- thought about replacing their own ground crew and rampies with outsourced low pay empl
77 Commavia : I don't need to watch. I already know. Only one of two things is going to happen: 1) the unions will cave and give the company what they want 2) the
78 Flighty : I don't think even Delta will have Delta colors. Instead, they will need another new livery (yes) that takes a wheel pointing to the NW direction and
79 Lono : There is a third thing... the new DL will limp along for years making life miserable for employees and customers...
80 Ikramerica : Sure you can. And it may just happen that way. You'll see a hybrid livery for a long while though, one of the standard Delta titles and tail with the
81 NYCAA : It's amazing at how people have forgotten what happened at EA, two HUGE egos Mr. Bryant and Mr. Lorenzo. The good thing about this was that the peopl
82 MasseyBrown : Assuming the DL/NW merger actually happens, AF's $750 million should get them about a 25% stake in the combined venture. Buying up another 24% (effec
83 Newark777 : If you don't think Northwest's image can be extinguished sooner rather than later, it may be a tough few months for you. Talk about a union victory.
84 Jetlanta : I made that point on here a few months ago.
85 Lono : This would be interesting to say the least.... . Not a union or non union victory.... just something that could happen when you split employee groups
86 Newark777 : Exactly, the NW pilots should get out of the way so they can merge. Either that, or join the unemployment line when their airline goes under.
87 MasseyBrown : Sorry for the repetition. We may be right. I think AF is one of the French government's chosen instruments for international economic expansion. I wo
88 DeltaL1011man : Why is it that everyone thinks this will happen? Come on guys lets think about who is on capital hill. Do you think they are going to give up this la
89 MasseyBrown : I believe we will see the 25% voting stock limit raised to 49% no matter who is in office. 49% is a face-saving number which preserves the appearance
90 Flyingcat : Considering how intense the competition is in Europe they do surprisingly well. Unlike the US they do not have the same Chapter 11 buffer which has a
91 Flighty : That's not true. There is not an LCC hub at CDG. Whereas in the USA, typically we do have LCCs in the middle of legacy strongholds. I would like to s
92 Rwy04LGA : What happened to Pan American? TWA? Were they any LESS important than NW? They covered the entire planet! Does NW? If PA and TW can be erased, so can
93 Ikramerica : I can see 49% of ownership but not 49% of control. At most 33%. But I don't share your faith that this would come about if Obama were to win. Maybe w
94 DeltaGuy767 : Another Franco-Prussian War of sorts he he.... Anyways the issue here is a nightmare from an M&A standpoint. With US credit troubles, and in an alrea
95 Bobnwa : It would be better to remember what happened at KL and AF. It ended up a stronger airline. Why would NW go under? Compared to the other legacy carrie
96 Mayor : Here's an interesting idea as far as non-pilot benefits are concerned.........do you think DL would take what the NW employees have for benefits and m
97 Lightsaber : An airline has to make a profit to continue on. Its really as simple as that. Otherwise everyone else who does business with that airline starts to b
98 Nwaflyer : Quoting Nwaflyer (Reply 30): Why does NW have reservation centers in the Iron Range. Easy answer. Bailout. Why is having a res office in the Iron Rang
99 DeltaL1011man : Unlike DL, NW broke even for Q4. I would say that NW is about as safe as CO and DL. UAL is one the one i worry about.
100 MasseyBrown : You could be right. The EU will be pushing the issue when the next phase of negotiations starts on May 15. Maybe the candidates will announce a posit
101 Breaker1011 : Does anyone else wonder if Delta/NWA are moving right now with a bit more urgency in part due to the troubles at AA, which may mean that AA's ability/
102 Post contains links Alitalia744 : FYI.... http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...472%2DDBF592DD32E0%7D&siteid=yhoof
103 Ikramerica : As I said before, if ALPA actually allowed this merger to go forward without a compromise, it would show them to be a very weak union (considering the
104 WorldTraveler : The first part is totally accurate... it also has little political or national baggage. As for the France ownership comment, why would AF want to be
105 Centrair : I personally believe that they should merge the companies under one holding group and eventually over time merge them into one single entity but with
106 Cloudboy : But what would it accomplish? Theoretically you would be able to have one subcontractor that provided a perfect product for all. But in reality, you n
107 DeltaL1011man : Hahaha Only 6? DL has 22 and i don't know about NW Delta Air Line Inc. subsidiaries: Delta Air Lines Delta Shuttle Delta TechOps Delta Cargo Delta Co
108 MasseyBrown : Where did I say completely French owned? AF will be satisfied with working control.
109 DeltaL1011man : So they will then move there HQ to CDG? Ok and I'm moving to the moon.
110 Lono : indeed... Have to go there on Virgin........
111 Centrair : I guess I underestimated the companies. NW actually has 13 subsidiaries (as listed in their financial) Well maybe they merge those with NW's and elim
112 DeltaL1011man : most i understand but I'm not sure about these: Delta Benefits Management, Inc. (my guess is the benefits for the employees) Delta Corporate Identity
113 RobertS975 : Seems to me that the widget only points to the NW on one side of the tail, not the other. So when this happens, DL will have merged with both Northwe
114 Mayor : Not a division, merely a cargo service. No more a division than shipping pets or regular cargo. Just different cargo services offered by Delta Cargo.
115 Rwy04LGA : They acquired NE a long time ago, 1970 or thereabouts?
116 WorldTraveler : all of DL's mergers have involved an airline with a directional indicator in its name. (Chicago and Southern and then Northeast). Northwest would add
117 DeltaL1011man : WT how can you not add WA to that list?
118 Post contains links Sdexplorer00 : Well, it looks like the time may have arrived according to the Financial Times and the WSJ. "Delta Air Lines is near an agreement to merge with rival
119 Bobnwa : I will believe it when it announced by DL and NW. This merger has been pre-announced numerous times on this forum and the media. The fat lady has not
120 CB777 : Next will be CO & UA. I am afriad this will spell the end of the Continental name
121 Alitalia744 : Maybe she's clearing out her throat?
122 CIDflyer : LOL While true we did see this many times before a couple months back, I think the stars are all alligning together now and I think it is actually go
123 Rwy04LGA : Will you change your name to 'Bobdal' when she does?
124 Mayor : Announced on April 23, '71 and Okayed by Pres. Nixon on May 19, '72.
125 Bobnwa : I will have to consider that if the name already isn't taken.
126 MasseyBrown : Right, as well as the predictions "They have to announce in December in order to get it approved by the Bush Administration", then "They have to anno
127 WorldTraveler : severe brain lapse...
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Delta Pilots To Wrap Up Strike Authorization Vote posted Mon Apr 3 2006 23:48:42 by KarlB737