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YVR Huge Increase Of 12.8% In February  
User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3636 times:

Stats are out from YVR and February continued to show a massive increase in passenger traffic compared to 2007.

Total traffic increased an impressive 12.8%.

All sectors showed increases year over year.

Domestic led the way with 13.7% growth and Transborder showed an impressive 12.0% increase.

Miscellaneous international (mainly Mexico and Caribbean) rose by 36.5%.

Misc international showed almost as many passengers as Europe in February.

Even Asia Pacific showed a healthy 8.8% increase.

Looks like YVR is finally taking off again after a couple of years of lower growth.

Will this continue into the spring and summer months? Time will tell. All indicators are saying YES.

In comparison:

SEA showed an 11.1% increase over Feb 07 - healthy inccreases noted in domestic and international
YEG showed a 10.2% increase over Feb 07 - due to a huge increase in int'l (and 8.2% for March - released already)
YYC showed a 7.4% increase - mainly domestic (transborder only 2.1% increase while international was stagnant at only 1.2%)

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User currently offlineFlyb From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 686 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3611 times:

Great news there at YVR! Very impressive, should keep building as the Olympics and worlds pay more attention to Vancouver.

User currently offlineTN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

How much of a dip would this number take subtracting Oasis? Various threads put their LF's in the 80's, but overall I would not imagine it would make a huge dent in the overall numbers.

User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3547 times:



Quoting TN757Flyer (Reply 2):
How much of a dip would this number take subtracting Oasis? Various threads put their LF's in the 80's, but overall I would not imagine it would make a huge dent in the overall numbers.

I agree. Very small player in the Asia Pacific market.

The strong growth was in Domestic and Transborder so the loss of Oasis should just be a blip. Don't forget Oasis didn't start flying into Vancouver until June 2007, so the affect of that won't be known until summer figures are out.


User currently offlineDYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

I wonder what is fueling the increase? Apart from NZ and OAsis there has not been any real significant increase in capacity.

Regardless this is good news!! hope YVR will see some new carriers in 2008?



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3450 times:

Shame to see O8 go, but some nice growth for the summer - please feel free to correct if necessary:

Transborder & HI
F9 returning (hopefully....) with 1x daily 319 to DEN between May 9 - Oct 13
NW going to 3x daily 320 to MSP + an extra Sat flight, 1x daily to DTW and a Sat flight to MEM.
AC going 2x daily 767 to OGG from May 7
CO 2x daily 738 to EWR by Jun 1
US 1x daily 319 to PHL + an extra CR9 on Sat
WS 4x weekly HNL & 3x weekly OGG

Domestic
AC 2nd daily to YQR, 3rd daily to YPR, 2nd daily to YXE and 12th daily to YEG
K0 are doing the YYZ flights, daily x6 from May 19 and on Sun to YUL between Jun 1 - Oct 26
WS increasing YYZ from 8 to 9x daily

International
Z4 10 weekly flights to UK + CDG
TS adding 2x week CDG
GSM are back, this time to DUB
BR are adding an extra T7 on Mon & Sat between Jul 5 - Aug 30
AC Ixtapa going year round 1x weekly 320, also CUN with 2x weekly 767 & 3x extra weekly flights to ICN between Jul 3 - Sep 4
PR going 5x weekly MNL - YVR - LAS
K0 also offering 1x weekly PVR
QF not retunring this year  Sad
CX going from 17x weekly to 3x daily
MX going from 9x weekly to 11x weekly
AM operating 1x weekly flight for K0
KE adding a Sun flight



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User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3418 times:



Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 5):
AC going 2x daily 767 to OGG from May 7

I am sure you meant 2 x week

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 5):
US 1x daily 319 to PHL + an extra CR9 on Sat

The CR9 is to PHX

US is also planning daily to LAS (up from 4/week last summer mainline + 1 CR9/week)

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 5):
WS increasing YYZ from 8 to 9x daily

Are you sure. I think it is just 8 daily.

UA is adding an additional Sunday only flight to DEN and upgauging 1 daily flight to a 752.

On the "downside" - Alaska appears to be discontinuing all LAS flights and reducing LAX to 5x daily (from 6). Horizon cutting frequency on the SEA and PDX runs, but will be all Q400. A slight decrease in capacity with that change.

A bit of capacity reductions on AC trans-border as well by cutting frequencies to LAX and using smaller a/c on some routes.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4836 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3411 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Thread starter):
Even Asia Pacific showed a healthy 8.8% increase.



Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 5):
International
Z4 10 weekly flights to UK + CDG
TS adding 2x week CDG
GSM are back, this time to DUB
BR are adding an extra T7 on Mon & Sat between Jul 5 - Aug 30
AC Ixtapa going year round 1x weekly 320, also CUN with 2x weekly 767 & 3x extra weekly flights to ICN between Jul 3 - Sep 4
PR going 5x weekly MNL - YVR - LAS
K0 also offering 1x weekly PVR
QF not retunring this year
CX going from 17x weekly to 3x daily
MX going from 9x weekly to 11x weekly
AM operating 1x weekly flight for K0
KE adding a Sun flight

NZ started up with 3x weekly AKL-YVR 772ER this was originally for the Northern Winter only, but now it is going to be year round.



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3384 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 6):
Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 5):
AC going 2x daily 767 to OGG from May 7

I am sure you meant 2 x week

I did  blush 

Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 6):
The CR9 is to PHX

Correct, I forgot the to PHX bit - assume YV metal??

Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 6):
Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 5):
WS increasing YYZ from 8 to 9x daily

Are you sure

Yes, from ~ August 10, though it may not be 9 flights every day at first, certainly Fridays at least. I'll have to check the scheds again when Im at work.

Freight is also increasing, W8 will have 2x 767 and 1x 757 by the end of this year - a 767 will certainly operate YHM - YYC - YVR. Purolator / KW are also supposed to be getting a DC10F for direct YHM - YVR and FX seem to be using the A300 more frequently these days.

Even little 8P seem to be growing with two more Saab's just added - any info when the Shorts will be leaving?



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4836 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3373 times:

BTW I'd just like to add that of all the airports I have been to around the world, YVR would have to be one of my top 3. Such a nice airport, large open areas, plenty of food places, clean, well lit, wifi. A real pleasant experience.


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User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3368 times:



Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 8):
Yes, from ~ August 10, though it may not be 9 flights every day at first, certainly Fridays at least. I'll have to check the scheds again when Im at work.

Yes, you are correct. 9 daily starting mid-August. That is a huge increase over last summer. Can't wait to read the Edmonton Airport's quote again. Westjet in Edmonton leaves YVR in its contrail. Big whoop for the summer scheds yes WS has more flights out of YEG (like maybe 3 more a day) but in the winter YVR has more flights than YEG. Guess they will grasp at any "newsworthy story."

8P is definitely on the up and up with their continuing flights to Kamloops and Penticton.

Even Hawkair is showing increased flights. Looks like their YYC-YXH flights never took to the air?

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 8):
Freight is also increasing, W8 will have 2x 767 and 1x 757 by the end of this year - a 767 will certainly operate YHM - YYC - YVR. Purolator / KW are also supposed to be getting a DC10F for direct YHM - YVR and FX seem to be using the A300 more frequently these days.

Cargo is also on the increase. Good improvement over 2007 so far.


User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3359 times:



Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 9):
BTW I'd just like to add that of all the airports I have been to around the world, YVR would have to be one of my top 3. Such a nice airport, large open areas, plenty of food places, clean, well lit, wifi. A real pleasant experience.

Yeah, it's up there. They just need to get immigration on arrival right. Very disappointing to see huge queues of passengers and half of the immigration desks were not staffed. Most of my recent Melbourne arrivals I have noticed they have improved that here. The YVRAA never replied to my comment card from last year.

Just booked NZ to go from Melbourne - Vancouver for Xmas via AKL. It's been awhile since I have been on Air NZ. I usually fly the Flying Kangaroo across the Tasman.

Sounds like that route is doing very well for NZ. Looking forward to checking out the service. Chose to have a layover on the way over for no extra cost.


User currently offlineDYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3342 times:

some potential future good news for Vancouver.

- Canada & Philippines will begin talking about a revised bi-lat (May 20080 PR wants 7X ex YVR with LAS and SAN 5th freedom
-South Korea Bi-Lat to be re-negotiated some time this year, KE looking at 7x maybe OZ?
-SQ now negotiating an intermediate stop (not ICN)
-AI talking YVR in 2009 via MUC
-Jet Airways via MXP? or BRU?
-NZ extending to MAN soonish



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User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3334 times:



Quoting DYK (Reply 12):
some potential future good news for Vancouver.

And....

CZ to CAN by Summer 09.

Kingfisher still a possibility.

Once the 787 issue is sorted out, I am sure we will see the return of QF.


User currently offlineTayser From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 1131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

...and hopefully there'll be a daily Melbourne with a few of said QF 787s  Smile

User currently offlineDYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3318 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 13):
And....

CZ to CAN by Summer 09.

Kingfisher still a possibility.

Once the 787 issue is sorted out, I am sure we will see the return of QF.

and.....

who knows what will result for YVR at the conclusion of a E.U./Canada agreement this June?



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User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3310 times:



Quoting DYK (Reply 15):
and.....

who knows what will result for YVR at the conclusion of a E.U./Canada agreement this June?

If it concludes!

I doubt the future of growth will be European focused. I am thinking Asia Pacific will still be the long-term growth engine.

I am wondering when (IF!!!) the Approved Destination Status from China is granted what impact that will have. It seems like a big joke right now anyway.


User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3308 times:



Quoting Tayser (Reply 14):
...and hopefully there'll be a daily Melbourne with a few of said QF 787s

Never say never, but I am tipping it would be a daily SYD service first.

I am sure the new NZ service is siphoning a portion of the Australia - Canada market.

Good to hear the route is one of their most successful route launches in years.


User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3259 times:

I forgot to mention that the increase in February is also despite the demise of Harmony Airways last April. Given the loss of that capacity (although not huge) the increase in domestic and transborder traffic is even more impressive.

Further to that... I just read this on Wikipedia (not the most reliable source of information)... nevertheless, here it is:

"Industry rumours on April 4, 2008 have now indicated that on Monday, April 7, 2008, Harmony Airways will announce that they will recommence with regularly scheduled service."

Well I never heard anything.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4836 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3246 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 11):
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 9):
BTW I'd just like to add that of all the airports I have been to around the world, YVR would have to be one of my top 3. Such a nice airport, large open areas, plenty of food places, clean, well lit, wifi. A real pleasant experience.

Yeah, it's up there. They just need to get immigration on arrival right. Very disappointing to see huge queues of passengers and half of the immigration desks were not staffed. Most of my recent Melbourne arrivals I have noticed they have improved that here. The YVRAA never replied to my comment card from last year.

Just booked NZ to go from Melbourne - Vancouver for Xmas via AKL. It's been awhile since I have been on Air NZ. I usually fly the Flying Kangaroo across the Tasman.

Sounds like that route is doing very well for NZ. Looking forward to checking out the service. Chose to have a layover on the way over for no extra cost.

Yeah I must say I agree that immigration is probably the weak link at YVR.
Well I hope you have a great trip! NZs 772ERs are very nice aircraft... good IFE, comfy seats etc, excellent service. AKL has improved over the past 3 years... if you were arriving into AKL rather than transit you would also experience the recently (last week) opened arrivals area... still you will of course in transit use the 2 year old departures level airside which is quite nice also.



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User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3239 times:



Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 19):
Well I hope you have a great trip! NZs 772ERs are very nice aircraft... good IFE, comfy seats etc, excellent service. AKL has improved over the past 3 years... if you were arriving into AKL rather than transit you would also experience the recently (last week) opened arrivals area... still you will of course in transit use the 2 year old departures level airside which is quite nice also.

Cool thanks.

We are actually going to stopover in Auckland for 1 night on the way to break up the trip a bit so we will definitely be going through the new arrivals hall you mentioned.

One thing I liked about Auckland Airport was their amazing viewing deck in the International Terminal.

The flight from MEL to AKL is an A320, but the rest (including the return AKL-MEL) is on the 77L.

Looking forward to it.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4836 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3229 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 20):
We are actually going to stopover in Auckland for 1 night on the way to break up the trip a bit so we will definitely be going through the new arrivals hall you mentioned.

One thing I liked about Auckland Airport was their amazing viewing deck in the International Terminal.

The flight from MEL to AKL is an A320, but the rest (including the return AKL-MEL) is on the 77L.

Cool, yeah it is a good viewing platform... the new arrivals area (prior to duty free) has a good viewing area of the other side of the intl pier also.

That'd be the 77E not 77L... NZ didn't order the 77L although I believe it does have some purchase rights.



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User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3188 times:



Quoting DYK (Reply 12):
- Canada & Philippines will begin talking about a revised bi-lat (May 20080 PR wants 7X ex YVR with LAS and SAN 5th freedom

I could see this happening soon (hopefully Canada pulls its finger out..finally)

Quoting DYK (Reply 12):
-South Korea Bi-Lat to be re-negotiated some time this year, KE looking at 7x maybe OZ?

Be great to see this happen and give KE a daily flight - I would doubt OZ though as easy enought to codeshare with AC

Quoting DYK (Reply 12):
-SQ now negotiating an intermediate stop (not ICN)

Any idea what the intermediate stop would be (there are many airports in Asia on the great circle route - HKG/TPE/ICN etc). And, are they looking at replacing ICN or keeping that as well?

Quoting DYK (Reply 12):
-AI talking YVR in 2009 via MUC

Is that the latest "rumour?"

Quoting DYK (Reply 12):
-Jet Airways via MXP? or BRU?

I still see a non-stop in the cards sooner than later. (DEL n/s is shorter than AKL and SYD from YVR)

Quoting DYK (Reply 12):
-NZ extending to MAN soonish

Certainly possible. Would be the shortest route from AKL given the current list of destinations served by NZ.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25459 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3037 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 22):
Quoting DYK (Reply 12):
-Jet Airways via MXP? or BRU?

I still see a non-stop in the cards sooner than later. (DEL n/s is shorter than AKL and SYD from YVR)

DEL-YVR nonstop, assuming the great circle polar routing, is also about 400 nm shorter than BKK-YVR and 900 nm shorter than SIN-YVR.


User currently offlineDYK From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3029 times:



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 22):
Quoting DYK (Reply 12):
-AI talking YVR in 2009 via MUC

Is that the latest "rumour?"

seems to be the buzz around the cargo village at the moment. The SQ Cargo rep did not give us which intermediate point but my guess is either HKG or a Japanese City. The NZ rumour seems to be reliable, it came from NZ itself.

Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 20):
One thing I liked about Auckland Airport was their amazing viewing deck in the International Terminal.



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 20):
One thing I liked about Auckland Airport was their amazing viewing deck in the International Terminal.

YVR Will also have a viewing deck which will open 2009.

I also heard Air Pacific would like to go non-stop with 787 in the future.

I really hope the feds conclude an agreement with the E.U. this June. The current Conservative government seems to be a little more open than the previous eastern regime. It would be nice to see an AIr France all be it doubtful particularly when there service to SEA is doing very well. I sure there are a lot of YVR passengers that use the CDG-SEA flight.. In any case YVR needs another European Carrier as AC is not interested in developing new E.U. markets from YVR.

KLM has indicated they will keep the MD11 during the winter season. Despite the KLM loads ex YVR during the winter months are very good, we have been told it will go down to 5 flights. THe decision to go down to 5 flights is a NW decision to support the NW SEA-AMS flights. ALso heard the NW AMS-PDX flights are not off to a great start, wonder if KLM would drop YVR al together to feed the NW PDX-AMS flight??



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25 Stapleton : While still impressive, don't forget, there was an extra day in the month which would account for about for a 3.5% increase by itself. One month is ne
26 YVRLTN : Yes, I heard that this week. I dont what the original source was, but the rumour is a Chinese airline has bought the HQ name and will basically do wh
27 Zkpilot : Highly likely, although with 787 delays placing capacity constraints in the medium term and with the way fuel prices are going it does lessen the lik
28 Connector4you : Agree. In my opinion Air Canada it's a highly conservative airline, nothing wrong with that as long as they can still make money. For many years they
29 Jamincan : I've got to wonder how successful a MAN route would be if AC wasn't able to maintain it from YYZ. That's not to say that the flight won't work, YYZ is
30 DYK : I cant see a ns YVR-India flight int he short term? I can see 2 Indian carrier operating flights into India via a European hub with 5th freedom traff
31 YVRLTN : Dont forget KL to AMS. While I would like to see more flights to Europe, if you actually think about it Im not sure what routes would actually be hig
32 Connector4you : Definitely I think that in the new fast approaching "open sky era" combined with a relentless world alliances enlargements and/or mergers, the old go
33 YVRLTN : Im not sure this will happen for a very long time, using 757's across the Atlantic maybe, but not ex YVR. LHR works for AC and there are three Europe
34 YVR1968 : Huh? That is standard. KL always drops to 5 x week in the winter and in fact was using the 330 on the route. So keeping the MD-11 on the route is an
35 HowSwedeitis : Good news for YVR. Now if only Horizon or Air Canada Jazz could lower the ticket cost from SEA!! -HSII
36 YVR1968 : Yup and the main point was comparing to other airports in the same "region." And the February results were on the tail of excellent January results a
37 DYK : it is an increase. point I am tried to make was the drop to 5 flights a week which btw is a NW decision not a KLM decision.
38 PA515 : Eff. 4th December 08, NZ is adding a 4th AKL-YVR-AKL on Thu. Flights Wed Thu Fri Sun. Unsure if it remains for the off season. PA515
39 Multimark : I expect we'd see AC restart MEL-YVR once 787's become available, rather than QF.
40 EVA777SEA : I'm curious as to where on Earth you pulled that out of. NW has no power to make KLM drop YVR to 5x weekly during the winter. It should be no surpris
41 DYK : KLM Cargo Vancouver also heard fro other KLM sources from Houston and New York. KLM Vancouver has been pushing for daily flights ex Vancouver and dur
42 SLCUT2777 : With DL linking up with NW, is it possible that DL will bring mainline back to YVR-SLC? This is a route both have been code-share partners on for som
43 Jamincan : I tried that and the first option that came up was a direct flight with KLM followed by a NW codeshare of the same flight.
44 DYK : I also just did it and it came up with a flight via Seattle, May 4. departure. I used the final destination as Dubai
45 EVA777SEA : Yes, and you can get the same routing if you fly ex SFO, LAX, PDX, etc... The fact that the routing shows up does not mean that the SEA flight is com
46 YVR1968 : Yeah and thanks to those extra Thursday flights, I can stay in Vancouver longer over Xmas. Good way to get home to MEL by the weekend. At this rate i
47 YVRLTN : Im not really sure what the load factors are like on SLC, they bought in an M90 last summer for the midday flight and a 733 / 738 before that, so ass
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