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Have A VS Ticket From LHR. Can I Check In For AA?  
User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3895 times:

I have a VS ticket from LHR to JFK.

I also have an AA ticket issued separately - each of them from their respective websites.

I know that if its not on the same record locator one cannot check in for both/check through baggage but is there a way I can call up Virgin and get the AA ticket added on?

It would save hassle in JFK and I could just take my bag through customs and drop it in the special bag drop area....with the DCA luggage tag already issued....

Many thanks in advance

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User currently offlineBCA2005 From India, joined Sep 2005, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3877 times:

From the VS website:

Passengers who have booked connecting flights that appear on the same ticket can be through checked with their baggage to their final destination.

Passengers who have arranged connecting flights using two or more different reservations and hold separate tickets for these flights must collect their baggage at the destination of their Virgin Atlantic flight, clear immigration and customs and re check in with the onward carrier.

Likewise passengers holding separate tickets and checking in with other carriers must collect their baggage, clear customs and then re-check in for their Virgin Atlantic flight.

Please ensure you leave enough time for all these procedures to be completed. Our check in closes 60 minutes before the scheduled departure of the flight and we are unable to make any exceptions.

Passengers on separate tickets without the correct visas or other documentation permitting them to land will not be accepted for travel until they purchase a 'through ticket' or obtain the appropriate visa and/or other documentation.


User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

Well If you can check your bags in all the way with VS, then I would try and go over to AA and see if you can. However i think that as they are not the same ticket then this is where the main problem will be but it is still worth a try!

Kinda the same, I had a ticket on KX out of here going onto AA and they were able to check the bag all the way through so i just went across to the AA desk (which was empty at the time) and they were able to check me in.


User currently offlineRdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 901 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

This is a problem if your VS flight is late .AA will not necessarily allow you to take a later flight. Was there a real saving doing it this way. I would have thought a through AA fare would have been cheaper and then you could have "throughchecked" your bags and not worried when the flight is late.

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

The bottom line, to avoid confusion, is no.

NS


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3805 times:

You can check-in with AA online. You can't check your bags through, but that really doesn't matter much.


Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3755 times:

Here's a reason to avoid doing two separate itineraries: if you book one through ticket on one system, then you are protected if there is a mechanical delay.

For example, let's say the Virgin flight is late in departing or cancelled altogether. Since you bought a ticket LHR-XXX via ZZZ, it is Virgin's responsibility to get you to XXX, even if that means a different routing or airline altogether.

But if you purchased separate tickets LHR-XXX and then XXX-ZZZ, Virgin's responsibility is ONLY to get you to XXX. If you miss your connection, too bad - you're out of luck. American will say, "sorry you weren't here - you weren't protected on an interline ticket". You could be paying a walk-up fare for the next flight.

I hope it works out for you!!



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5430 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3739 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 5):
You can't check your bags through, but that really doesn't matter much.

Unless he has his own portable bag-tag printer, it matters plenty.



"PHX is Phoenix, PDX is the other city" -777Way
User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3689 times:

Well, I am allowing 4 hours in JFK. The VS ticket in J class was very cheap and adding on was a huge expense. It was much cheaper to get it done separately.

Anyway, If I miss the flight and have to buy another so be it.... or if I have to get the train down to DC from NY thats ok too as I don't think it's more than a few hours anyway.

Quoting Albird87 (Reply 2):
so i just went across to the AA desk (which was empty at the time) and they were able to check me in.

But how do you get your bags checked through because they will have JFK as my destination on at the VS checkin counter... Or do you mean just to get a boarding pass?


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5430 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3659 times:



Quoting Ansett767 (Reply 8):
Well, I am allowing 4 hours in JFK.

Barring any arrival delays, plan on spending over 2 hours in a bar.



"PHX is Phoenix, PDX is the other city" -777Way
User currently offlineSeattleFlyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you ALWAYS have to go through immigration, claim you bag, clear customs, etc. and then re-check your bag (whether you are continuing on the same carrier or not) at your first arrival point in the US?

User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3391 times:



Quoting SeattleFlyer (Reply 10):
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you ALWAYS have to go through immigration, claim you bag, clear customs, etc. and then re-check your bag (whether you are continuing on the same carrier or not) at your first arrival point in the US?

Fair enough, may have changed, but last year if your bags were tagged you could clear immigration, collect bags at the belt, clear customs and drop them off in a special area just before walking into the arrivals hall where people meet you. Saved you taking them all the way to domestic checkin.


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5430 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3246 times:



Quoting SeattleFlyer (Reply 10):
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you ALWAYS have to go through immigration, claim you bag, clear customs, etc. and then re-check your bag (whether you are continuing on the same carrier or not) at your first arrival point in the US?

You do. However, when your connecting flight is on the same itinerary, there is a drop-off belt just after passing thru customs where your already tagged bag can be placed. His bag tag will only have the VS LHR-JFK routing on it. He would have to make his way all the way to American's ticket counter in order to check in for his other flight, which depending on the queue could take an extra 20 minutes to 2 hours.



"PHX is Phoenix, PDX is the other city" -777Way
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3238 times:



Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 7):
Unless he has his own portable bag-tag printer, it matters plenty.

He has to clear customs and recheck his baggage either way. It is not harder to check it in at the AA bag drop at JFK without a tag. The only difference is that they will print out a tag for you there. Since he'll be checked in already via AA online, he need not wait in any lines. AA's new JFK check-in area is fast.

Seriously, don't be snarky unless you know what you are being snarky about.

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 12):
He would have to make his way all the way to American's ticket counter in order to check in for his other flight, which depending on the queue could take an extra 20 minutes to 2 hours.

No, he can check in online before the VS flight.

Dropping off a bag after being checked-in online does not take 20 minutes let alone 2 hours. That's just false information.



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User currently offlineCuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

4 hours... I would not be too worrie; worst case, if you are delayed in flight you will call AA from the airplane and spend $100 in phone chArges and $100 to re-book. But I see a 90% chance to make it.

When it sucks is when your transit time is short and you are on 2 different tickets, then you are looking for trouble!

But I got the lesson before, I did not miss my flight on a previous trip but it was pretty stressful, wondering about the luggage etc... next time I will try and pay $50 to a travel agent if I cannot book my combined flights online... the problem is, which good travel agent would do this? With Orbitz, Expedia or Travelocity, it's hit or miss (it does work sometimes, not often).


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3147 times:



Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 14):
4 hours... I would not be too worrie; worst case, if you are delayed in flight you will call AA from the airplane and spend $100 in phone chArges and $100 to re-book. But I see a 90% chance to make it.

He can check-in via an internet kiosk at LHR. He'll know if his flight is delayed or not at that time (unless something happens after boarding). As long as it's not delayed by more than 2 hours, should be safe to check-in...  Wink



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User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3063 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 15):
He can check-in via an internet kiosk at LHR.

Wow really? So once I have checked in for VS... I can go to AA and checkin using the terminals there for my JFK-DCA flight later in the day? Neat!

I think I may do online checkin anyway...


User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2975 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 15):
He can check-in via an internet kiosk at LHR. He'll know if his flight is delayed or not at that time (unless something happens after boarding). As long as it's not delayed by more than 2 hours, should be safe to check-in...

I should point out that there are not many public internet points left, outside of the business class lounges. Worth checking that VS lounge has them, if this is to be the plan...

But as the baggage will have to be checked in at AA in JFK anyway, I don't really see the point of online check-in before then, other than to select a seat...

Riv'



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2929 times:



Quoting Ansett767 (Reply 16):
Wow really? So once I have checked in for VS... I can go to AA and checkin using the terminals there for my JFK-DCA flight later in the day? Neat!

I think I may do online checkin anyway...

No, I do not think you can check in at an AA kiosk for a non-LHR flight. Usually the airport kiosks for an airline only allow you to check in for itineraries departing that airport...

I meant an INTERNET kiosk, which I assumed LHR still had. Log on to aa.com, check-in there. You won't print a ticket, but that's okay. You can do that when you get to JFK at the bag drop kiosk for AA. It's rather simple.

But it sounds like maybe it's not that easy to find internet access at LHR?

I suppose you can go to an AA counter and check-in in person there, but I'm not positive you can do that. The only way I'm sure you can do it is via the internet.

You might be able to do it on a Web Enabled Smart Phone. Never tried.

Too bad AA and CO and such don't have a web phone enabled site with simplified interface. It's really simple on WN to check-in using the link they SMS use.



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User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2833 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 18):
But it sounds like maybe it's not that easy to find internet access at LHR?

OK great idea! I will use the Virgin Clubhouse internet facilities at LHR.

By the way how long in advance can I checkin for my AA flight?

Also how long does it take from T4 at JFK to AA's terminal once I have cleared customs (using airtrain thingo)


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