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A Man On The Runway Was Hit By An Airplane  
User currently offlineRvA340 From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 69 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6089 times:

Hi..
I just saw on local news, that a man on the runway was hit by an airplane during take off at Tijuana International Aiport,
it seems that the man was an imigrant that jumped to the runway....unfortunatelly and obviously he died..this is a sad story..and not very common...any one knows if this is the first time that something like that happens..any similar stories..?
best regards!
 

http://www.esmas.com/noticierostelevisa/mexico/723307.html
sorry for the link is just in spanish..

[Edited 2008-04-14 18:38:46]

[Edited 2008-04-14 18:40:28]

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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6040 times:

He was IN the ground? Well how did he get there? Big grin

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5995 times:

Technically, he would most probably be an "emigrant" (leaving Mexico), not an immigrant (entering Mexico). Occasionally lawbreakers fleeing the San Diego area have been known to climb over into Mexico, but that's fairly rare.

The Tijuana airport is located right on the border with the U.S. - however, the terminal building is on the north side, and a run across the runway would not put a person within jumping distance of the international fence. One would need to cross the main road connecting Tijuana to the airport and the Otay Mesa border crossing. To me, it seems this unfortunate soul was either terribly confused (and completely uninformed as to where the best location for jumping the border fence was) or had another purpose for being on the runway.

Sad in any case.



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User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5197 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5977 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 2):
Technically, he would most probably be an "emigrant" (leaving Mexico), not an immigrant (entering Mexico).

It was an immigrant. This man was from Central America.

g77



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User currently offline787seattle From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5950 times:

Doesn't it seem a bit unusal that this man would run across a runway with a plane coming at him?

Lost a bit of his common sense possibly?



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User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5197 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5910 times:

Occurred during early hours of the day, still was very dark.

g77



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5891 times:

Okay, I'm going to get horrendously  flamed  ...

He would be an immigrant to Mexico if he was legally entering Mexico and that was his final destination. He was emigrating from Central America and transitting Mexico on his way to the United States.

Yes, we can assume that he was trying to enter the United States illegally. If he came in legally to stay, that would make him an immigrant.

If one looks at the Tijuana region, it shows how very bizarre as to why this man was on the runway. There simply is no need to cross an active runway.



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5861 times:



Quoting RvA340 (Thread starter):
any one knows if this is the first time that something like that happens..any similar stories..?

Some years ago, maybe 10-15, a man got through the fence on the north side of PHX and got on to runway 08/26. I think the man may have been mentally challenged, or under the influence--I just can't recall. An Alaska 727-200 was on its takeoff roll at the time, and IIRC the captain didn't see the guy until right at rotation, and with no time to react, the nosegear hit the guy. They continued the takeoff (obviously past V-1), told their station people that they were coming back, and stayed in the pattern. I don't recall if they dumped fuel or not. The crew was understandably shaken up by the event, and I can well imagine that those that saw and had to deal with the scene on the runway were likewise affected, if not more so.

There are reasons for Part 139 fencing, and this was just one of them....


User currently offlineNwaLAS From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5729 times:

Sounds similar to being hit by a 50 calibre round of amunition....body parts everywhere.


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User currently offlineCaspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5585 times:



Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 7):
Some years ago, maybe 10-15, a man got through the fence on the north side of PHX and got on to runway 08/26. I think the man may have been mentally challenged, or under the influence--I just can't recall. An Alaska 727-200 was on its takeoff roll at the time, and IIRC the captain didn't see the guy until right at rotation, and with no time to react, the nosegear hit the guy. They continued the takeoff (obviously past V-1), told their station people that they were coming back, and stayed in the pattern. I don't recall if they dumped fuel or not. The crew was understandably shaken up by the event, and I can well imagine that those that saw and had to deal with the scene on the runway were likewise affected, if not more so.

There are reasons for Part 139 fencing, and this was just one of them....

That's interesting. Do you have any more info? I grew up in PHX with most of my family working at Sky Harbor and don't remember hearing about that one...



Meanwhile, somewhere 35,000 ft above your head...
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5394 times:



Quoting Caspian27 (Reply 9):
That's interesting. Do you have any more info? I grew up in PHX with most of my family working at Sky Harbor and don't remember hearing about that one...

March 13, 1990, N271AF (ironically, one of my old Air Florida birds), LAX90LA116.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31573 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5164 times:

Worrying Security problem here.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5070 times:



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):
Worrying Security problem here.

I remember visiting Cuba a few years ago and our A330 was escorted by a Suzuki jeep as we backtracked down the runway and turned around. They have a problem there with stowaways apparently.

Also on the island of Skiathos in Greece we were escorted out to the runway once again due to the lack of airside security. The perimeter fence consists of a central reservation barrier and a 2 foot high mesh of barbed wire which isn't exactly hard to jump over! I've put a video I made of our departure below just because you can see the Jeep that was sent out to escort our B757. JSI really is a pretty interesting airport all around especially with it's tiny 5200ft runway!



I took this at the bar at the end of the runway. You could just walk on to the runway if you wanted.




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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5070 times:



Quoting Caspian27 (Reply 9):
That's interesting. Do you have any more info? I grew up in PHX with most of my family working at Sky Harbor and don't remember hearing about that one...

Well, I found the NTSB report, and discovered a few other things. I'd been told at some meetings I attended back around that time that they'd rotated and the poor guy had been struck by the nose gear. Turns out they'd been at 105 knots, initiated an abort, and veered right, but the poor soul had been hit by the left MLG. Turns out the deceased was a mental patient.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X22742&key=1


User currently offlinePhilV From Germany, joined Feb 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5000 times:

There was an LTU flight some years ago, where a man got into the landing gear 'box' of an A330 and died. The dead body travelled several times over the antlantic - unnoticed, because landing gear checks are once a week only.
I think the poor man was from Cuba.

http://www.wdr.de/themen/panorama/6/blinder_passagier/index.jhtml (In German only)


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4983 times:



Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 10):
Quoting Caspian27 (Reply 9):
That's interesting. Do you have any more info? I grew up in PHX with most of my family working at Sky Harbor and don't remember hearing about that one...

March 13, 1990, N271AF (ironically, one of my old Air Florida birds), LAX90LA116.

I remember it. I happen to be in Phoenix the night it happened.
safe



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User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4721 times:



Quoting 787seattle (Reply 4):
Doesn't it seem a bit unusal that this man would run across a runway with a plane coming at him?

Lost a bit of his common sense possibly?

Going out on a limb here, but could his plan have been: grab ahold of the airplane as it went past him on its takeoff roll, wait until shortly after takeoff, when it's over the US, and then let go, and land in the US? Not that I'm saying that's a very good plan, of course, given the speeds/altitudes involved...but wondering if that might have been what he had in mind.


User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4588 times:



Quoting Myt332 (Reply 12):
I remember visiting Cuba a few years ago and our A330 was escorted by a Suzuki jeep as we backtracked down the runway and turned around. They have a problem there with stowaways apparently.

they still do this, with a lada car, if you visit HAV you can see, AF 747 and just behind a white lada. this is because someone tried to get the landing gear years ago. they do in all the airports.

what kind of airplane was???


User currently offlineType-Rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4845 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

And of course we all remember this one:

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2004-11-04-lax-naked_x.htm



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User currently offlineCaspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4347 times:



Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 13):
Well, I found the NTSB report, and discovered a few other things. I'd been told at some meetings I attended back around that time that they'd rotated and the poor guy had been struck by the nose gear. Turns out they'd been at 105 knots, initiated an abort, and veered right, but the poor soul had been hit by the left MLG. Turns out the deceased was a mental patient.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...key=1

Thanks OPNLguy!



Meanwhile, somewhere 35,000 ft above your head...
User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4222 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 2):
The Tijuana airport is located right on the border with the U.S. - however, the terminal building is on the north side, and a run across the runway would not put a person within jumping distance of the international fence. One would need to cross the main road connecting Tijuana to the airport and the Otay Mesa border crossing.

They should put a US customs and passport control facility in the terminal and have a separate road to the US side. Basel airport has both EU and Swiss controls with separated roads. Tijuana airport could get a lot of San Diego business if they made it convenient for US access.


User currently offlineGivenRandy From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3774 times:

Maybe someone has been watching "Pushing Tin" too much.

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