Surfrider1978 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4660 times:
Wow. Very out of left field on this one. Still waiting for BUR though.
JetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1613 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4650 times:
Interesting. This have must been there plans for the base up at BLI. SANFan is probably happy about this, once he finds out. SAN isn't all that suprising, SFO on the other hand kind of. I am suprised they didn't choose on of the other bay area airports as SFO is prone to delays. I am surpised because I would have thought they would have learned a few things out of operating from FLL.
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FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5668 posts, RR: 17 Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4625 times:
BLI has been a very strong market. Its been the only city with Allegiant flights to Reno and Palm Springs.
I don't expect this means SFO or even SAN will turn into destination cities right now. To me it just means they are taking advantage of the BLI base.
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Surfrider1978 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4613 times:
Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 2): Interesting. This have must been there plans for the base up at BLI. SANFan is probably happy about this, once he finds out. SAN isn't all that suprising, SFO on the other hand kind of. I am suprised they didn't choose on of the other bay area airports as SFO is prone to delays
Yes, SFO is very surprising. Would have expected OAK and SJC as a bay area destination
AS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5820 posts, RR: 23 Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4589 times:
That's actually not in the primarily delayed prone time in San Francisco. As long as they avoid 900 to noon they should be ok. Its also summer time do delays are usually in the mornings and evening when the fog is rolled in.
I agree this is a huge surprise with San Francisco!
ASSFO
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San747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4936 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4556 times:
Sweet! Good news for SAN to finally see G4 on a scheduled basis... And SAN has BLI service again for the first time since Western v2 shut down last February.
WhatUsaid From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 595 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4492 times:
Ok, I did read that right, SFO? G4's management is never predictable, unless a route is not performing. I would expect both SFO and SAN to be packed from day one, SAN especially.
I'd expect those who live just north of the 49th will be driving down 99 to BLI, given the lack of WS from YVR to either airport, and the alternative on AC to SAN will run about $350 RT minimum. Slam dunk!
San747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4936 posts, RR: 13 Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4479 times:
Quoting WhatUsaid (Reply 7): I'd expect those who live just north of the 49th will be driving down 99 to BLI, given the lack of WS from YVR to either airport, and the alternative on AC to SAN will run about $350 RT minimum.
I didn't even think of that. While I'm happy that we're getting BLI, but I hope it doesn't affect AC and their YVR service.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5668 posts, RR: 17 Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4438 times:
As I think about it I find the BLI-SAN flight to be a longer stage length than I expected.
Its over 1100 miles, longer than G4s current average and at a time when they have been trying to cut stage length.
They must have a lot of confidence that the route will be profitable.
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YXXMIKE From Canada, joined Apr 2008, 306 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4357 times:
Quoting San747 (Reply 8): I didn't even think of that. While I'm happy that we're getting BLI, but I hope it doesn't affect AC and their YVR service.
I'm sure it wont affect AC's service, most people don't like the unpredictable 1-3hr wait trying to cross the border to get to BLI. Pre 9/11 this service would have been bad news for AC but now its just a blip!
YNGguins From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 473 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4231 times:
Wow this one is rather stunning, but again the key word is seasonal. Perhaps we will see some more seasonal destinations, such as RSW during late fall thru early spring and Myrtle Beach.
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Coronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1590 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4231 times:
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 9): As I think about it I find the BLI-SAN flight to be a longer stage length than I expected.
Its over 1100 miles, longer than G4s current average and at a time when they have been trying to cut stage length.
They must have a lot of confidence that the route will be profitable.
I'm hoping SAN will become a base. PSC, EUG, MFR and SCK could do well and eventually ICT, SGF, DSM, PIA and RFD in the mid-west among others.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5668 posts, RR: 17 Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4205 times:
Quoting Coronado990 (Reply 12): I'm hoping SAN will become a base. PSC, EUG, MFR and SCK could do well and eventually ICT, SGF, DSM, PIA and RFD in the mid-west among others.
It doesn't look like anytime soon. If they were gearing SAN up as a destination I think they would have done a SAN announcement like at FLL or AZA where they made it clear there were going to be lots of routes announced.
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ATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 14 Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4193 times:
FATFlyer,
Any idea who will be the ground handler in SFO. In SAN it may be AirServe who handles all the Harrahs charters.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5668 posts, RR: 17 Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4161 times:
AS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5820 posts, RR: 23 Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3935 times:
No AirServ at SFO that I know of.
Chances are Menzies or Swissport. I'll do some investigating for you.
ASSFO
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FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5668 posts, RR: 17 Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3900 times:
Quoting AS739X (Reply 16): No AirServ at SFO that I know of.
Chances are Menzies or Swissport. I'll do some investigating for you.
ASSFO
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Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5532 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3894 times:
Quoting YXXMIKE (Reply 10): I'm sure it wont affect AC's service, most people don't like the unpredictable 1-3hr wait trying to cross the border to get to BLI. Pre 9/11 this service would have been bad news for AC but now its just a blip!
Do you really think all of the Canadians are going to drive through Blaine, WA to get to Bellingham? You apparently are not from up here. No...the "truck" crossing and Suma are much closer to Bellingham. A little diversion on the Trans Canadian Highway to these other border crossings are usually faster than traveling through Blaine.
YXXMIKE From Canada, joined Apr 2008, 306 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3851 times:
Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 18): Do you really think all of the Canadians are going to drive through Blaine, WA to get to Bellingham? You apparently are not from up here. No...the "truck" crossing and Suma are much closer to Bellingham. A little diversion on the Trans Canadian Highway to these other border crossings are usually faster than traveling through Blaine.
Only 10min from the Sumas border YXX area
I do not doubt how easy it can be to get to BLI from the Sumas border, it's just that getting through that lovely thing we call US customs and immigration isn't exactly a walk in the park. Sumas takes a lot of heavy trucks and wait times can be anywhere from 10min to 3hrs depending on the day and what's going on. Flying out of BLI saves a lot of money but it can create a lot of heartache as well.
I wish I could use BLI for my trip to SAN next week via Delta or another carrier but its just too much stress having to worry about making my flight on time if the border line up is long.
Falcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1293 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3742 times:
Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 18): Do you really think all of the Canadians are going to drive through Blaine, WA to get to Bellingham?
Don't underestimate the potential for transborder traffic. Plattsburgh, NY started with a considerable amount of Canadian traffic on the Florida flights, there's no reason why BLI can't be a similar attraction. I do agree with everyone else, though that San Diego and San Francisco really came out of left field. Just another example of how unpredictable this industry is. If BLI-SAN/SFO succeeds, I think seasonal BLI-PSP is another possibility, largely driven by Canadian traffic.
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Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4099 posts, RR: 7 Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3731 times:
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Quoting Falcon Flyer (Reply 20): I think seasonal BLI-PSP is another possibility, largely driven by Canadian traffic.
?? Allegiant has flown BLI-PSP for a few months now. Currently 4x weekly for the month of April.
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5532 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3680 times:
Looking at the fares and schedule, that's a perfect opportunity to take a short, weekend trip to the Bay Area.
WhatUsaid From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 595 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3550 times:
Quoting YXXMIKE (Reply 19):
I do not doubt how easy it can be to get to BLI from the Sumas border, it's just that getting through that lovely thing we call US customs and immigration isn't exactly a walk in the park. Sumas takes a lot of heavy trucks and wait times can be anywhere from 10min to 3hrs depending on the day and what's going on. Flying out of BLI saves a lot of money but it can create a lot of heartache as well.
You don't find the NEXUS lane to be of help in cutting down your wait time? I've a client in White Rock and travel to/fr YVR often, and frankly, the stop 'n go traffic through the Massey to YVR has more than a few times resulted in missed flights. I've tried heading south using Sumas or Blaine and find that all options pose some degree of risk. But, I've found NEXUS helps cut down the delays at the border...
BTW, YVR is one great airport once you're there....
25 Falcon flyer: Der. Don't know what I was thinking. That's what I get for posting after hours.
26 Wedgetail737: Eek...I forgot about the NEXUS lane. Yes...if you travel quite a bit between Canada and the US, the NEXUS lane is very valuable. I believe the price
27 YXXMIKE: Dohh, I forgot to mention Nexus. Which yes I've heard is very good and worth the cost for those that travel quite frequently. A few friends of mine l
28 SANFan: Man am I late here! (Was doing taxes all day yesterday ) Hot diggity! As a lot of you have already expressed, what a surprise! I'm very pleased (good
29 SFOnative: So they will have a gate in International A I see? With so many new carriers starting service to SFO this year, the SW corner of the airport will be q
30 Airbusaddict: This sounds different, but Allegiant did say that they were turning Bellingham into a base. I wonder if they are going to add anymore cities out of Be
31 National757: That's what I was wondering. The only short to medium haul west coast destination I can think of not already served out of Bellingham is the greater
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