MP From Germany, joined Aug 2006, 63 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 1 month 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
I have a question about the EU liquid regulations concerning D/H crews.
4 times a month I fly D/H from FRA to CDG, AMS, MXP or FCO to perform my duty from one those stations. E.g. CDG - NGO, AMS - NRT, etc.
When I fly from FRA, or back from one of those stations, I fly as a D/H crew member, with a note on my ticket "Crew on Duty". As I know, the liquid regulations are different for crew and PAX, because most of the stuff in my cabin luggage is company related material, along with liquids such as for my contact lenses and Deo.
Since the EU launched this regulation, there has never been a problem, when I pass the security check on the flight back, because I still wear my uniform and ID. But somehow, since around 3 months, I always have to open my bag in CDG and the nice people working there take out all my stuff. They even threw away my contact lense solutions, which has an capacity of 120ml and told me, that this is not allowed. After explaining to them, that I'm still on duty (showing my uniform and ID), that I fly D/H and that there's even "Crew on Duty" written on my ticket,they demand that this their standard procedure.
As far as I know, crews are allowed to bring liquids onboard, if they are necessary for their duty. Somehow, it's not possible to check in my liquids, as it a company procedure to check thru our luggage.
So my question is, is it possible to keep those liquids with me?
I am crew as well! And I travelled a lot D/H as well! And I always were allowed to have my liquids with me! Never had any trouble here! Especially not in FRA! I took the staff entrance, told them I am dead heading and they checked my badge and were happy. Of course, normal security check with laptop and al lthat stuff! No problem with liquids at all!
Next time let them show you the order where it says that dead heading Crews aren't allowed to carry liquids with you! I had a few arguments with those guys myself and some haven't read the order properly!
Good luck and happy flying!
MP From Germany, joined Aug 2006, 63 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1100 times:
Thanks for the comments.
The thing is, I always take the crew lane, even when flying D/H in business attire. In FRA and AMS it's pretty relaxed, because there are crew lanes and they just check your ID.
In CDG for example, there are no crew lanes in T1. The security staff is often very rude, like most of them in CDG, and even took my sandwich (!), because it had mustard on it, which is somehow liquid and could be dangerous. Funny, but the last months are hell there, because when complaining, the turn on their "I don't speak English" button.
The only thing I need to know is, if this is really possible or are those people just wrong.
WILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8473 posts, RR: 78 Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 6 days ago) and read 1035 times:
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Quoting MP (Reply 3): The only thing I need to know is, if this is really possible or are those people just wrong.
As I said: ask for the order where it is said that mustard on a sandwhich counts as a liquid and D/H crews aren't allowed to carry that!!
Oh and btw: A laptop with LCD (LIQUID cristal display) shouldn't be allowed as well! Or the liquid in your pen etc etc!
Quoting MP (Reply 3): the turn on their "I don't speak English" button.
Yeah, I hate that! but then ask for someone WHO speaks English and if you are willing: have an argument with them! I had that once! And then the supervisor came and we figured out that they were wrong!!
ACFA From Canada, joined Feb 2007, 261 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1022 times:
In Canada as OPERATING CREW, I was told I was not allowed liquids at security, which was obviously not true. After a big argument with the McDonalds security screeners, I got fed up and left the checkpoint. Went downstairs through a different checkpoint, and was cleared in no problem. Some security screeners lack brains......