Travellin'man From United States of America, joined May 2001, 530 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 14746 times:
Has anyone else noticed the ucanny similarity between the new Delta logo and the recently redesigned NW logo, each one with a triangle pointing to 10:00? Hah, a conspiracy!!
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AV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1266 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 14751 times:
Yeah plus 9E flying for DL outta ATL...I would never have thought they would ever have flown for DL! Now hoping that Freedom (Mesa) will fail and DL will reallocate the CR9's to EV.
DeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8628 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 14201 times:
Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 1): Yeah plus 9E flying for DL outta ATL...I would never have thought they would ever have flown for DL! Now hoping that Freedom (Mesa) will fail and DL will reallocate the CR9's to EV.
DL doesn't get to pick if ASA gets CR9s. DL has give to OO and DL's holding company which picks OO or EV.
Quoting NwAflyer07 (Reply 2): I wonder if a hybird livery between NW and DL will be designed, or if all NW aircraft will be painted into the existing Delta colors.
Do you really think that they didn't know that this would happen when the had the newest livery come out?
DL's livery now will be DL/NW's new livery. No need to do it again because some NW fans on a.net wan t it to be.
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Hey Shamrock, you might be on to something there...looks quite good and captures the essence of both airlines. We have to believe that someone at NW will push DL to have a different livery than the boring (yawn) one they have now. This spices it up a little. Nicely done.
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DL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 14160 times:
Pilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 10 Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 13948 times:
Quoting Baw716 (Reply 5): We have to believe that someone at NW will push DL to have a different livery than the boring (yawn) one they have now. This spices it up a little. Nicely done.
While I do like that livery, I don't think it needs to change, nor do I think any executives at either airline have any thoughts that it should change. There's just no reason to change it. The new airline will stay Delta, and they already started creating a new image for Delta one year ago. They would just be crazy to change it.
Coronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1009 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13751 times:
The Heilig design is fantastic. Perhaps a little more silver on the fuselage, but even it this was not a DL NW merger issue, it is a striking livery on its own. The uplifted widgets are very postive symbolically.
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GayStudPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 423 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13714 times:
Coronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1009 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13713 times:
The Heilig design is fantastic. Perhaps a little more silver on the fuselage, but even it this was not a DL NW merger issue, it is a striking livery on its own. The uplifted widgets are very postive symbolically.
The Original Coronado: First CV jet flights RG CV 990 July 1965; DL CV 880 July 1965; Spantax CV990 Feb 1973
Flybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1791 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13446 times:
Personally, I think that whatever airline the new Delta/NW Goliath decides for a name... for the love of Pete... they should choose a corporate identity that they currently have. Delta and NW both have done recent re-branding. To re-brand again after that seems to me to be a complete waste. Their fleets are a complete mishmash of radically differently painted airplanes. Whatever name comes out of this, they should just use the existing livery throughout the fleet and save us all the decade of multicolored mess.
I'd have to say, I don't think the flying public cares about "corporate identities" it's really the pleasant surprises that make people want to come back, not how much airlines spend on a logo. In this day and age, an airline logo only reminds passengers how their airline ruined their vacations, made them late to meetings, lost their bags, and/or gave them the big ole' middle finger while scheming of ways to steal their pocket change.
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Pilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13415 times:
Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 13): I think that whatever airline the new Delta/NW Goliath decides for a name... for the love of Pete... they should choose a corporate identity that they currently have
They've already stated that it's going to be Delta. Period. End of story.
ImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1243 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 13162 times:
IMO The red tail should be adopted for all aircraft and DL's current livery modified to accept it. The arrow on the tail should be moved to the front of the aircraft. Also, from a visibility standpoint the red tail is a good thing.
Petty as it sounds, I think keeping the red tail should have been part of the merger deal.
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SkyTeamTriStar From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 339 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12984 times:
The hybrid livery looks cool but won't fly -- it looks cluttered. Remember: less is more.
LuvJetFuel From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 22 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12935 times:
Definatly less is more lol .. i dont think they want it looking like a hybrid so they'll probz just spend hundreds and thousands on an overall new livery, hopefully it dont look anything like the lonon2012 logo hehehehe
NwAflyer07 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 12814 times:
Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 4): Do you really think that they didn't know that this would happen when the had the newest livery come out?
DL's livery now will be DL/NW's new livery. No need to do it again because some NW fans on a.net wan t it to be.
I'm convinced they knew this would happen since they both filed bankruptcy on the same day just about an hour apart from eachother. No doubt they'll keep everything the way Delta is now, but it would be nice to see a combined livery such as the one UsAir and America West came up with. I'll sure miss the red tails and metallic silver. Not that it matters to anyone outside of a.net.
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9272 posts, RR: 13 Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 12123 times:
Quoting Brilondon (Reply 22): I would like them to go back to the traditional Delta widget before all this horses*@t branding and different paint schemes.
I would, too. I don't think we would see a new log or livery after this merger. At this point, there are enough different DL liveries that to come up with another at this point would make them look foolish.
As for those that think DL has changed their livery too often, think of this.....How many times has UA changed their livery since the 70's? Just off the top of my head, I'm sure it was more than DL has. I think the difference with DL was that it happened in such a short period of time.
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25 UA777lover: Have to agree, quite like that look! Might even get me on a Delta plane just to check out that livery!! Ok, maybe not but it's still a great look!
26 DiscoverCSG: As am I. What are the odds that two carriers just happened to file on the same day in the same courthouse? Then, one of them designs a new logo that
27 WESTERN737800: I like this look. However with the merged airline having 800 airplanes, DL should have 2 airplanes with "retro NW" paint 1 silver metallic, and 1 red
30 EA772LR: Wow! Great livery. I really like the joint livery with the big titles on the side and keeping the compass as a tribute for NWA. Thanks for sharing!
31 Jmbarros12: Fantastic livery! It looks even nicer on B744!! Rgds, João Marcelo
32 Lexy: Now I gotta say, the 744 with that livery is pretty dang nice looking!
33 Dispatchguy: I like it - mixes the essential design elements and characteristics of both airlines Very nice.
35 JBo: I like it (well, all of Helig's renderings) ... but the blue widget makes for an odd contrast. I almost think a two-tone silver widget would suit the
36 Aloha717200: The livery is nice, but the widget inside of the circle on the fuselage looks out of place...and the grey circle around the "D" makes the whole thing
37 Coronado: I still prefer Heiligs Blue Tail with Red Widget. As far as the basic body painting I do thing however that the NWA pearl silver will look better long
38 Antoniemey: I like the bluetail version... But I agree that the blue widget on the red tail just doesn't look quite right. Silver could work, or white...
39 DeltaMD90: I really don't know, at first I disliked the all red widget, but I have to say, I hope it doesn't change back. The blue and red widget has its place i
41 Beertrucker: Well since everyone is putting their opinion out there. So I will put mine out there. I think the ones you are showing with the circle and widget poin
42 Stylo777: looks like the actual livery of Onur Air (8Q), especially the tail!
43 ShannoninAMA: Umm..No? How on earth would one know that this would pass through all the feds, the pilots and all when this was released a while ago? On a completel
44 AeroMojo: I think this is a great idea! A great way to pay respect to those to who have worked and lost, as well as surviving.
45 AeroMojo: Why would they? AA bought them out and absorbed them, not join forces. If DL-NW come together it will be a team effort, not a buyout.
46 Antoniemey: Actually they did. I doubt it had anything to do with the merger, though.
47 Beertrucker: Well If I remember right they were still flying the meatball back then it was not for years later that you saw them change to what you see today.
48 DocLightning: Really, really, really pretty. So would the DC-10.
50 Mayor: Wonder if Delta has any of those "bumper stickers" left that were used on the WA and PA planes before they were painted? Probably have to get some new
51 ThirteenRight: If DL comes out with ANOTHER livery ... so help me ..
52 Mayor: You can quit beating your head against the wall. I honestly don't think it will happen.
53 DocLightning: Here's what bugs the heck out of me. We now have the single largest airline in the world. It serves five of seven continents with extensive Transatlan
54 Pilotboi: I think Delta is fine. Most people don't know what it's named after and to them Delta doesn't mean any specific region. I think it's a unique name th
55 DeltaL1011man: Umm......with all of there 12 routes that overlap I don't think it will have any problems making it past the DOJ. Lets us remember the new livery cam
56 Antoniemey: CO was in the process of changing to the globe from the meatball while they still had aircraft in PEOPLExpress and Frontier paint schemes. Bethune me
57 YXwatcherMKE: Well for what it worth here is my vote on this topic. I thought Shamrock350 has a great idea for the "New Delta" livery and then when I saw same desig
58 Mayor: I could see them doing a couple of heritage liveries, maybe, but not the whole fleet.
59 Lexy: You honestly have to be kidding me. Change the name because they are "global"? From crop dusters in the "Delta" region of the south to international,
60 Mayor: Wasn't that the name of the airline in the movie "Airplane"? Great, just great.
61 Beertrucker: There is nothing wrong with the name. Delta is well known. No reason to change it.
63 Ocracoke: Delta is also the fourth letter in the Greek alaphabet, and recognized around the world. Only aviation buffs would realize how DL got its name. The p
64 Deltaownsall: please dont debase/cheapen the quality delta image w this hybrid nwa bullocks. that livery you worked up was nicely done, but i feel that the current
67 Rikkus67: ...a quick modification of the new scheme Partially agree... The angled widget on the tail is the only "mistake" I find in the new scheme. The dual r
69 Argonaut: No. Exactly. Think of Rolex: how many people have the foggiest notion of the origin of the brand-name? The truth is that it just doesn't matter, beca
70 Mayor: Queensland and Northern Territories Air Service. But how many actual people know that, espicially outside Australia?
71 Argonaut: About as many as know Delta refers to the Mississippi Delta! (And it matters just about as much!)
72 Viscount724: Almost but not quite. It was Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services.
73 N104UA: I think that the new Delta logo will look good on the NW a/c and if you don't you can't do anything about it the new airline will be Delta It was Tran
74 Mayor: Wasn't there one of the airport disaster movies that used "Global Airllines" for the name of the airline? I remember seeing it somewhere.
76 747LUVR: This kind of sounds like the great wildnerness of the pacific northwest....but the new name I think should be called: The Northwest Delta. Just an ide
77 Antoniemey: To some people it means faucets. But other than that, you are right, the origin of the brand name doesn't matter, only the current esteem it's held i
78 Yellowstone: I'm pretty sure I saw that on the A.net entrance exam. Anyway, I agree that it would be silly for DL to do yet another redesign to blend in the NW br
79 Mayor: Back in '91, when I went to TLV to help with the PA transition, the marketing guy told me about some of the problems DL had had with name recognition
80 Viscount724: Until a few years ago Delta.com was the web address of the large U.S. faucet and plumbing supplies company. I think DL had to pay them a substantial
81 Aloha717200: That's correct. I remember that web address.
82 September11: I think new name should be called Delta Orient