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Can Polluted Air On Aircraft Damage Health?  
User currently offlineNEMA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 710 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2599 times:

There will be an interesting documentary for UK viewers on the BBC next monday 21st April with a toxicologist testing air samples from various flights.

There have been suggestions for years that some airlines dont provide us with the best air conditioning, often due to costs and, i for one would specially agree that particularly on long haul flights airlines should provide clean air for us to breathe at whatever cost.

There will be some interesting stories from both passengers who have become ill and Pilots who have passed out at the controls, apparently made ill by toxic fumes.

Any a.net members had any ill feeling on flights? My experience on some long haul journeys has been more towards the lack of cool air made available from the booster vent, at times the blower is working but the air its blowing is warm. Having said that, it isnt surprising that such large numbers of people in an enclosed area could easily pass on germs in the air.

There is a link to the programmes release here..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/7294238.stm


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User currently offlineDazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2885 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2580 times:

I bet the quality of air while sat at the traffic lights in a congested city will show far greater levels of pollution than the air on aircraft! I've seen many reports suggesting contaminated air and many quashing the claims. If the aircraft is well maintained as per Boeing, Airbus, Embraer etc etc specifications, I see no problem. I can't say I've ever experienced any problems inflight that I would put down to airquality. I've had an odd sore throat or cold but it's difficult to attribute it to the air quality when you're around that many people. The dryness of the air can be a problem but that's just part of flying. I'll be watching, should be interesting but I'd take the claims with a pinch of salt. When you consider the volume of passengers flying on a daily basis, if there was a serious problem I'm sure things would have come to light well before now.

Darren



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User currently offlineNEMA From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2568 times:



Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 1):
When you consider the volume of passengers flying on a daily basis, if there was a serious problem I'm sure things would have come to light well before now.

I agree on this point Darren although i have seen similar speculative programs before on this subject. I reckon that long haul would be a more interesting area to study than shorter domestic routes.



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User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

I just found out about this lingering problem too. Does anyone know, whether any airline has actually taken actions on their 757s http://www.pprune.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-146733.html
(the a/c, which seems to have the most reporting on by pilots), and installed filters?



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2441 times:
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Didn't someone catch tuberculosis on a KLM flight some years ago?


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User currently offlineACW367 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2360 times:



Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 1):
I bet the quality of air while sat at the traffic lights in a congested city will show far greater levels of pollution than the air on aircraft

The Government agrees with you. However it has agreed to do further testing.

http://www.publications.parliament.u...text/80422w0001.htm#08042369000144


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

air in buildings is also likely less healthy. air in aircraft is exchanged with outside air at a much higher rate than in buildings, and air goes through the system filters at a greater rate as well.


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User currently offlineACW367 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

Here is the official way ahead from the British Department for Transport. A trial will be carried out throughout 2008.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/aviation/hci/faq


User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2318 times:

Why not just fit filters to aircraft?

DfT has discussed this with a major filter manufacturer who said that, to produce an effective filtration system, they would first need to know what particular substance had to be filtered out.

That is why it is logical to analyse cabin air first, to identify what remedy might be needed.



many reportings already have stated, that this smell is caused by tricresyl phosphate (TCP) - C21H21O4P



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