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Delta L-1011 Retirement Pushed Back To 2002  
User currently offlineDeltaAir From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1094 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

The Delta Air Lines L-1011 retirement has been pushed back to early 2002 for unknown reasons. The flight schedules for fall are out and the L-1011 is still appearing on certain routes, especially the Florida ones. The reason for this is unknown, but appearently the L-1011s will be covering for the 767s and 777s while they are being completely refit with new seating and above ceiling crew facilities.

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User currently offlineL'Espace180 From France, joined Sep 2000, 938 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

THAT will make some people here happy... Smile

User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

I wonder if there are delays with deliveries from Boeing of new 767-400s and 777s or possible pilot problems with the airline?

User currently offlineRen41 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

Thats Great!!! Now I might have a chance to fly on one!!!

Ren41


User currently offlineKLM747 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 669 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

Great! Now people can fly the L1011 a little longer!  Big thumbs up
 Wink/being sarcastic

KLM747 Big grin


User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1808 times:

What will Caledonian Wings use when they start April 1st 2001. My guess would be FS2000  Laugh out loud
Iain


User currently offlineBaec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

Then how would Delta retire their L1011s if their 764 / 777 has not yet been shipped to Delta..??

Even UAL has all their 777 delivered all @ one time.

Continental & Delta has the same orders too, ordering the 767-400s , 777-200s, each retiring their L1011s(DL)
and DC10s(CO).


Baec777  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineSiriwatthana From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

That`s great! Delta L1011 is comeback.
Delta Airlines is unlucky with B767-400. Performance
proplem for the Hawaii routes.
Today flies Delta L1011 from USA to Hawaii.


User currently offlineGanymed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

Well,dude,got it! Betcha guessing what that means!!  Smokin cool

Gotta make a Hawaii Trip next !  Big thumbs up

What routes other than HNL are the L1011's used at ?

Tristar =  Love  Love  Love  Love  Love  Love  Love  Love



User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2789 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

That's great news! I spoke with a DL TriStar flight crew yesterday and they thought the final date was still July 31. But they warned...everything is subject to change! Evidently...that's true!

User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

That will be great. Maybe I can hop on one of these someday.

User currently offlineExusair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 684 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

There are only about 10 tristars left in the fleet. The tristars were on an aggresive retirement schedule through spring and summer. What are the new retirement dates? Also, the ATL-HNL not being operated was blamed partially on the pilots for DL not agreeing to a crew rest facility on the 767-400. The truth is that DL doesn't want to operate the flight for the time being. The flight might break even at best. All of the seats are taken by either FF tickets or low fare tour operations. It makes sense to funnel everybody through either LAX or SFO, whereas the a/c is flown on one flight for 4 1/2 hrs, compared to 8 1/2 out of ATL. Anyway, you can still get onboard an L-1011 from ATL-LAX/PBI/FLL/MCO. All of the -500's are gone from the fleet, but the -1's and -250's are still tooling around.

User currently offlineAAtripleseven From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1658 times:

Does that mean we will see a Delta Tristar in the "Wavy Gravy" colors? That would look so sweet.

User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5490 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Where did you get this info from? I'm awaiting the 6 month schedule from DL for the aircraft, so I can find out the dates of the retirements, delieveries, paintings etc. I really don't see them keeping them around until 2002. But if they do keep them, great. Another chance to catch a few more rides on them.

User currently offlineDeltaAir From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1094 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

Check the Online Schedules.

User currently offlineN-156F From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

Will the L-1011 ever be flying ATL-JAX again? I'd love to work in a flight on one while the B767s are fixed up...

User currently offlineAmtran727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

Dont forget ATL-ORD and back beginning APR01 I belive its a -1 A/C

User currently offlineMilesRich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1992 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1546 times:

The schedule shows one L1011-250 pairing between ATL-ORD. I am not sure of the ATL-ORD departure but I believe it leaves at 5:10 p.m. The Return ORD-ATL is DL 1261. The aircraft seats 30F and 265Y. The fall schedules right now show the flight remaining a Tristar but the story from employees is that when the August schedule comes out, all the Tristars will be gone. They are old, tired, and mechanical nightmares. If you are a Delta employee, you already know its risky to non rev on one because of cancellations. Even if they are used for a few more months, the ten remaining that is, they will not be repainted in Leo or Ron Allen colors.

User currently offlineNUair From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1540 times:

Strange but we just had a L1011 out at AMS Im not sure if it came from ATL or JFK. I would guess ATL since that seems to be where most of their Tri stars are hanging out. It was quite an event and a lot of people from my dept. went to go take a look at it. Delta usually only flyes 767-300 and MD-11's so it was a nice sight plus they only come to AMS once in a great while.

It will be bad to see these guys retired but after a flight with ATA in which the interior looked almost as bad as a Tower Air 747 and we were delayed for 6 hours for mechanical work!!. I hope that Delta's 1011's havent fallen this far into disrepair. It must be costly to operate those guys, but then again they fly over 100 727's.

Anyone have any idea where the aircraft are going? Arizona desert? Africa? South America? charter companies? I know they had about 26 in operations in 99 that's quite a lot of scrap metal.

NUair



"How Many Assholes we got on this ship?" - Lord Helmet
User currently offlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4498 posts, RR: 72
Reply 19, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1537 times:


If what you say is correct, it can't have been on a regular scheduled flight. I have checked all DL movements at AMS during the last days, and there has not been am L-1011 on one of their scheduled flights.

Here are the most recent data:

* 19FEB01

DL038 ATL STA0815 ATA0821 a/c N807DE MD11
DL080 JFK STA0915 ATA0855 a/c N1200K B763

* 20FEB01

DL038 ATL STA0815 ATA0840 a/c N806DE MD11
DL080 JFK STA0915 ATA0932 a/c N183DN B763


Apart from that, DL has no ore L-1011s in international configuration, as they have all been refitted to domestic configuration, and I don't even know if they actually have some longe-range -500s left.



User currently offlineSeasonedflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

Sorry to break the news, but there is no published schedule for Delta Air Lines that is accurate beyond May 31st.

For those of you not in the airline community, any flight schedule loaded into the reservations system is always loaded "to infinity". The currently loaded schedule for Delta is their April 1st "Final" schedule and really only shows those flights expected to be flown during April and May of 2001. The June schedule won't be loaded for another 30 days or so and that schedule covers from June to September 2001.

The L1011's will all be gone by August 1st. They are only flying 6 all summer and most of those on routes that are out and back from ATL (to allow for 'spare' coverage of flights failing to go because of mechanicals).

I know a lot of people love the L1011's here, but the Delta fleet is really getting worn out. As sad as watching them leave service is, they need to go as they (the Delta aircraft) ARE NOT operationally viable.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8894 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1497 times:

According to the online timetables, DL hs a few L-1011-1s flying ATL-MCO on 20/10/01. Please say the L10 stays though...

Jeff


User currently offlinePurdue Arrow From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1574 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1468 times:

NUair-

The planes are mostly going to the desert in Victorville, CA, where they are chopped for scrap metal. I believe that a total of 2 aircraft were sold to the government of the Congo, with one delivered and one still in service with Delta. I'm planning to fly out to VCV (Victorville) in one of our L-1011s on March 6.


User currently offlineUGA777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1409 times:

Wow that is interesting. I know Delta has 6 more firm orders for the 777 right now up until 2003 with like 20 options, but when will they convert those to firm orders and possibly add more to make up for these L-1011s and expanding routes? Any info. is greatly appreciated.

User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1395 times:

Rumors are swirling about a 40+ frame order from Delta once the pilot contract is resolved.

DeltaSFO



It's a new day. Every moment matters. Now, more than ever.
User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7991 posts, RR: 5
Reply 25, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

But is that going to be 40 777's? Or will it be a mix of 777-200ER's and 767-400ER's?

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