DeltaAir From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1094 posts, RR: 0 Posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2617 times:
The Delta Air Lines L-1011 retirement has been pushed back to early 2002 for unknown reasons. The flight schedules for fall are out and the L-1011 is still appearing on certain routes, especially the Florida ones. The reason for this is unknown, but appearently the L-1011s will be covering for the 767s and 777s while they are being completely refit with new seating and above ceiling crew facilities.
Exusair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 684 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2268 times:
There are only about 10 tristars left in the fleet. The tristars were on an aggresive retirement schedule through spring and summer. What are the new retirement dates? Also, the ATL-HNL not being operated was blamed partially on the pilots for DL not agreeing to a crew rest facility on the 767-400. The truth is that DL doesn't want to operate the flight for the time being. The flight might break even at best. All of the seats are taken by either FF tickets or low fare tour operations. It makes sense to funnel everybody through either LAX or SFO, whereas the a/c is flown on one flight for 4 1/2 hrs, compared to 8 1/2 out of ATL. Anyway, you can still get onboard an L-1011 from ATL-LAX/PBI/FLL/MCO. All of the -500's are gone from the fleet, but the -1's and -250's are still tooling around.
Dazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5519 posts, RR: 48
Reply 13, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2203 times:
Where did you get this info from? I'm awaiting the 6 month schedule from DL for the aircraft, so I can find out the dates of the retirements, delieveries, paintings etc. I really don't see them keeping them around until 2002. But if they do keep them, great. Another chance to catch a few more rides on them.
MilesRich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2077 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2098 times:
The schedule shows one L1011-250 pairing between ATL-ORD. I am not sure of the ATL-ORD departure but I believe it leaves at 5:10 p.m. The Return ORD-ATL is DL 1261. The aircraft seats 30F and 265Y. The fall schedules right now show the flight remaining a Tristar but the story from employees is that when the August schedule comes out, all the Tristars will be gone. They are old, tired, and mechanical nightmares. If you are a Delta employee, you already know its risky to non rev on one because of cancellations. Even if they are used for a few more months, the ten remaining that is, they will not be repainted in Leo or Ron Allen colors.
NUair From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2092 times:
Strange but we just had a L1011 out at AMS Im not sure if it came from ATL or JFK. I would guess ATL since that seems to be where most of their Tri stars are hanging out. It was quite an event and a lot of people from my dept. went to go take a look at it. Delta usually only flyes 767-300 and MD-11's so it was a nice sight plus they only come to AMS once in a great while.
It will be bad to see these guys retired but after a flight with ATA in which the interior looked almost as bad as a Tower Air 747 and we were delayed for 6 hours for mechanical work!!. I hope that Delta's 1011's havent fallen this far into disrepair. It must be costly to operate those guys, but then again they fly over 100 727's.
Anyone have any idea where the aircraft are going? Arizona desert? Africa? South America? charter companies? I know they had about 26 in operations in 99 that's quite a lot of scrap metal.
"How Many Assholes we got on this ship?" - Lord Helmet
HB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4635 posts, RR: 70
Reply 19, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2089 times:
If what you say is correct, it can't have been on a regular scheduled flight. I have checked all DL movements at AMS during the last days, and there has not been am L-1011 on one of their scheduled flights.
Apart from that, DL has no ore L-1011s in international configuration, as they have all been refitted to domestic configuration, and I don't even know if they actually have some longe-range -500s left.
Seasonedflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2072 times:
Sorry to break the news, but there is no published schedule for Delta Air Lines that is accurate beyond May 31st.
For those of you not in the airline community, any flight schedule loaded into the reservations system is always loaded "to infinity". The currently loaded schedule for Delta is their April 1st "Final" schedule and really only shows those flights expected to be flown during April and May of 2001. The June schedule won't be loaded for another 30 days or so and that schedule covers from June to September 2001.
The L1011's will all be gone by August 1st. They are only flying 6 all summer and most of those on routes that are out and back from ATL (to allow for 'spare' coverage of flights failing to go because of mechanicals).
I know a lot of people love the L1011's here, but the Delta fleet is really getting worn out. As sad as watching them leave service is, they need to go as they (the Delta aircraft) ARE NOT operationally viable.
Purdue Arrow From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1574 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2020 times:
The planes are mostly going to the desert in Victorville, CA, where they are chopped for scrap metal. I believe that a total of 2 aircraft were sold to the government of the Congo, with one delivered and one still in service with Delta. I'm planning to fly out to VCV (Victorville) in one of our L-1011s on March 6.
UGA777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1961 times:
Wow that is interesting. I know Delta has 6 more firm orders for the 777 right now up until 2003 with like 20 options, but when will they convert those to firm orders and possibly add more to make up for these L-1011s and expanding routes? Any info. is greatly appreciated.