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User currently offlineBraybuddy From India, joined Aug 2004, 5793 posts, RR: 32
Posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13463 times:

I've done a search, which threw-up half a million A380 threads, including one with a link to Singapore's A380 seat-plan, but unfortunately access to that is forbidden.

Anyone know of a site which isn't?

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User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1216 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13436 times:

Have you checked www.seatguru.com ?

User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9210 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13412 times:

Have a look at http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...y_info/eot/fleet_info/380/A380.jpg

http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/images/company_info/eot/fleet_info/380/A380.jpg



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User currently offlineBraybuddy From India, joined Aug 2004, 5793 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13409 times:

Great! Thanks guys  Smile

User currently offlineAGreatWayToFly From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 13315 times:

why is there a seat missing around row 47??

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13239 times:



Quoting AGreatWayToFly (Reply 4):
why is there a seat missing around row 47??

It's a crew escape hatch from underneath.



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User currently offlineFhgandi From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 12543 times:

Just a question:

Has somebody already flown in Economy upstairs and downstairs? Is there a notable difference?


User currently offlineNicholaschee From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 12466 times:



Quoting Fhgandi (Reply 6):
Just a question:

Has somebody already flown in Economy upstairs and downstairs? Is there a notable difference?

UD Y cabin was supposed to be Premium Y but was abandoned during planning stages.

UD has less people and feels more spacioius with the 2-4-2 compared to 3-4-3 on the LD. It's very much quieter on the UD and you embark/disembark faster than the LD. Service is much faster too with fewer passengers, by the time the FSS start clearing your trays the last of those on the LD are still being served.


User currently offlineThegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 12447 times:

I wondered for a while why they had the 4 abreast business class. Looked ridiculous in the photos in the paper. Then it hit me: you never have to step over anyone, or have anyone step over you. Still can't see that they would be able to charge 50% more for that when they could have 2-2-2 seating.

User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12430 times:



Quoting Thegeek (Reply 8):
Still can't see that they would be able to charge 50% more for that when they could have 2-2-2 seating.

Care to explain where the 50% comes from? I'm missing your point entirely.....


User currently offlineThegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12357 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 9):
Care to explain where the 50% comes from? I'm missing your point entirely.....

The normal J class layout for an A330 width cabin is 2-2-2, i.e. 6 abreast. If you have 6 abreast seating you get 50% more seats in the same space as compared to 4 abreast seating, if the pitch is the same. Therefore to justify 4 abreast seating at the same pitch as 6 abreast seating, you need to collect the same amount of revenue. Therefore you need to charge 50% higher J class fares.

Does that make sense now?

P.S. The pitch is in fact squeezed slightly, so the seats might be taking up 40-45% more space than normal J class seats.


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12319 times:



Quoting Thegeek (Reply 10):
Therefore to justify 4 abreast seating at the same pitch as 6 abreast seating, you need to collect the same amount of revenue. Therefore you need to charge 50% higher J class fares.

But they aren't. The J fare on the 380 is the same as it is on the 744. You do realise that?


User currently offlineAerohottie From Australia, joined Mar 2004, 802 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12222 times:



Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 7):
UD Y cabin was supposed to be Premium Y but was abandoned during planning stages.

Why was the Y+ cabin abandoned? any ideas?
I remember hearing from somewhere that SQ were originally looking at a 4 class layout with 10 F and 72 C on the UD, and 72Y+ and I think 300+ Y on the LD... this is 460 odd seats compared to the 3 class 12F, 60C, 399Y (471 seats) layout they went with. I would have thought the original plan would generate more revenue??? what are your thoughts???



What?
User currently offlineThegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12146 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 11):
But they aren't. The J fare on the 380 is the same as it is on the 744. You do realise that?

I didn't check, but that is interesting. Why configure the aircraft that way then? Did they just stuff up?

Quoting Aerohottie (Reply 12):
I would have thought the original plan would generate more revenue??? what are your thoughts???

That depends a fair bit on the revenue from the Y+ cabin. The 12 extra J seats wouldn't hurt, but this cabin was heavily biased to non economy fliers. Perhaps they didn't think they could sell all those premium seats.


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12124 times:



Quoting Thegeek (Reply 13):
I didn't check, but that is interesting. Why configure the aircraft that way then? Did they just stuff up?

No stuff up at all. SQ has a philosophy of not following the norm. The 77W and 380 all have the same J seats. The 380 has no F but R (Suites). Those do command a premium over F.


User currently offlineLimaNiner From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 12057 times:



Quoting Thegeek (Reply 8):
Then it hit me: you never have to step over anyone, or have anyone step over you.

To me, this is one of the distinguishing features: do you have to climb over anyone in order to go pee, and vice versa? You do on BA Club World, and, more baffling, in LH First class in their 744s...


User currently offlineThegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 12008 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 14):
The 77W and 380 all have the same J seats.

Even though the 77W is wider than the A380's upper deck. According to seatguru.com, the 77W's seats are actually narrower that the A380's, so must lead to exceptionally wide aisles if correct.

I see the value of the suites on SQ's A380, but I'm not sure if I see the value of the ultra wide J class seat.


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 11959 times:



Quoting Thegeek (Reply 10):
The normal J class layout for an A330 width cabin is 2-2-2, i.e. 6 abreast. If you have 6 abreast seating you get 50% more seats in the same space as compared to 4 abreast seating, if the pitch is the same. Therefore to justify 4 abreast seating at the same pitch as 6 abreast seating, you need to collect the same amount of revenue. Therefore you need to charge 50% higher J class fares.

Of course, the pitch is nowhere near the same. SQ's new C seats are installed with 51-55" of pitch. To get a horizontal lie-flat seat with 2-2-2 business class seating would require at least 80" pitch.

Quoting LimaNiner (Reply 15):
To me, this is one of the distinguishing features: do you have to climb over anyone in order to go pee, and vice versa? You do on BA Club World, and, more baffling, in LH First class in their 744s...

I often fly both LH and SQ, in both F and C. For the same fare, there is not much difference between LH F and SQ new C. Service is comparable, food is comparable, the LH F seat is better, the SQ C arrangement provides everyone with direct aisle access, and SQ have been IFE.


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 11951 times:



Quoting Thegeek (Reply 16):
I see the value of the suites on SQ's A380, but I'm not sure if I see the value of the ultra wide J class seat.

You might not, but clearly people are willing to book, pay and fly on SQ for the seats alone. SQ's preumium classes, especially J are just about full on a consistent basis.


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 11875 times:



Quoting Thegeek (Reply 16):
Even though the 77W is wider than the A380's upper deck. According to seatguru.com, the 77W's seats are actually narrower that the A380's, so must lead to exceptionally wide aisles if correct.

The seat bottom cushion is wider on WhaleJet, but the overall seat width is wider on the 777-300ER. Too wide in my opinion, as the aisles are uncomfortably narrow.


User currently offlineThegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 11773 times:



Quoting LimaNiner (Reply 15):
To me, this is one of the distinguishing features: do you have to climb over anyone in order to go pee, and vice versa? You do on BA Club World, and, more baffling, in LH First class in their 744s...

But wouldn't you be pissed off if you flew an SQ 744 or 772 with its 2-3-2 Raffles class (2-2 on the upper deck of the 744)? So it's not like it's consistent across all of SQ's fleet. You have to be careful or you can have to step over someone.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 17):
Of course, the pitch is nowhere near the same. SQ's new C seats are installed with 51-55" of pitch. To get a horizontal lie-flat seat with 2-2-2 business class seating would require at least 80" pitch.

Which would take the same amount of space. I would think the lie-flat option would be better, but hey, what do I know.


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 11760 times:



Quoting Thegeek (Reply 20):
So it's not like it's consistent across all of SQ's fleet. You have to be careful or you can have to step over someone.

First of all, you do know what type aircraft you're booked on. But, within the 777 fleet, consistency is a word SQ does not have in their vocabulary.


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11672 times:



Quoting Thegeek (Reply 20):
I would think the lie-flat option would be better, but hey, what do I know.

Evidently, you don't know what you're talking about in this particular case. SQ's new C seats are horizontal lie-flat seats.

Quoting Thegeek (Reply 20):
Which would take the same amount of space.

So, same space, also a horizontal lie-flat seat, and every seat is an aisle seat. Now, what's your complaint?

Quoting Thegeek (Reply 20):
So it's not like it's consistent across all of SQ's fleet.

SQ's new C seats have been installed on all new aircraft since its introduction and are being refitted to the A340-500s. The JumboJets have all been sold and will all be leaving the fleet over the next 3 or so years, so refitting them would not be cost-effective. I'm cautiously optimistic that an announcement that the newer 777-200ERs will be refitted will be forthcoming after completion of refitting the A340-500 fleet. What more do you want?


User currently offlineThegeek From Australia, joined Nov 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11527 times:



Quoting Zvezda (Reply 22):
So, same space, also a horizontal lie-flat seat, and every seat is an aisle seat. Now, what's your complaint?

Umm, how's it possible to lie flat in only 55 inches of pitch? Unless your passengers are no taller than 4'7", you make them curl up drastically or the seats angle it doesn't work.


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11470 times:



Quoting Thegeek (Reply 23):
Umm, how's it possible to lie flat in only 55 inches of pitch? Unless your passengers are no taller than 4'7", you make them curl up drastically or the seats angle it doesn't work.

Take a look here

The seats are designed so the bottom part of the seat for the lay flat option extends under the seat in front of you. There is plenty of room. I'm 6'1" and have no problems in the seats.


25 Zvezda : You've clearly never seen the seat. Why are you arguing with people who have? I've flown at least two dozen times in SQ's new C and there is more roo
26 Thegeek : This is what I was looking for. So by angling the seat it works out then. Perhaps I could have asked the question more diplomatically.
27 Zvezda : The seats are not angled per se. The seats face directly forward. However, the passenger lies along a diagonal when the seat is in bed mode. The spac
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