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User currently offlineVio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1440 posts, RR: 10
Posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 29177 times:

Hi,

According to sources, a new international airport will be built in Brasov (...pronounced [braˈʃov]...), Romania. The city is located in the central part of the country, about 170 km from Bucharest, in the Carpathian Mountains and has a population of about 285,000. The city is a major tourist attraction, especially the ski resort "Poiana Brasov".

After extensive study, including geological survey, meteorologica data, finacial, political, etc, the airport construction started this month (originally scheduled for start in 2007). Canadian firm Intelcan won the construction contract and it's estimated that the airport will cost between 80 - 98 million Euros. The timeframe is between 24 - 30 months.

"Brasov-Ghimbav International Airport" airport will be located on the NW side of the city, near the village / town of Ghimbav (hence the name) and will have a single runway, 2800m (9187 ft) in length. The elevation is between 520m - 540m (1706 ft - 1772 ft) above sea level.

Future Brasov Terminal:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Frontaeroport.jpg

I think this airport will be very beneficial for the local tourism industry. Brasov is a really beautiful city with lots to offer. I believe it'll be the new "Innsbruck" of Romania. I can see lots of charters from the UK, Scandinavia, Russia, etc come there with tourists. What airlines would you think would start serving Brasov? I also wonder how the runway will be placed. I couldn't find any information on that.

I hope all this information was right. I used a few sources, including "Brasov County" official press release and some info off newspapers articles / wikipedia.

Brasov County Council (official site in Romanian)
http://www.judbrasov.ro/public/index...php?level0=cj&level1=auto&level2=9

Canadian Firm Intelcan
http://www.intelcan.com/

http://viaromania.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/aeroportul-brasov-ghimbav/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra%C5%9Fov_Airport

Here are some photos of the city.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Brasov_view_from_the_top_of_the_hill.jpg/800px-Brasov_view_from_the_top_of_the_hill.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/59/Centru_bv.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bf/Brasov_Biserica_Neagra.jpg/800px-Brasov_Biserica_Neagra.jpg







http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Poiana_Brasov.jpg/800px-Poiana_Brasov.jpg

http://www.armoniavoyages.ro/UserFiles/Image/diverse/poiana_iarna_.jpg



http://www.infotravelromania.ro/foto%20mic/romania/brasov/eduard_despinoiu_aprilie2007/Drumul_spre_Poiana_Brasov.jpg





[Edited 2008-04-19 07:43:15]


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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13260 posts, RR: 100
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 29107 times:
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Good to hear another airport is being built!

A regions economic development is always dependent upon good transportation. Airports are one part of that.

Quoting Vio (Thread starter):
in the Carpathian Mountains and has a population of about 285,000.

If it wasn't for your photos of the ski resort, I would have questioned the regions ability to sustain a new airport. What is the regional population that this airport can draw upon for local origination traffic? I understand the goal is to bring in tourists, but it will take local business traffic to sustain the airport year round.

Does the city have a conference center? I'm not talking about a full blown convention center (which might not be a bad idea...), but something to draw higher paying clients during the summer? I know quite a few ski resorts doing this and it helps fill the hotels year round.

Quoting Vio (Thread starter):
The timeframe is between 24 - 30 months.

So 2011.  bigthumbsup 

I'm a fan of airport expansion. Those that claim all airports will be full by such and such day just haven't looked into GPS based air traffic control or the expansion in the middle east, India, or China. Enough hubs will expand to keep adding new cities such as this one.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineFlynorth From Sweden, joined Mar 2008, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 29083 times:

Great!

Looks like a beautiful city from the pictures.

I can definately see Scandinavian charters there. Scandinavians (at least Swedes) are always on the lookout for new holiday destinations.

Romania is a member of the european union since 2007 and that should help a lot, makes everything a lot easier. The EU is probably a guarantee for economic growth for a country like Romania, which also can help the airport to grow local origination traffic.

Regards,
flynorth


User currently offlineTraindoc From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 361 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 29030 times:

Amazingly beautiful city for Romania. Thanks for the pictures! Caicescu wanted to replace all of the European archtecture in Romania with monolithic, grey boxey apartmentsI I am glad that he never made it to Brasov.

User currently offlineYXXMIKE From Canada, joined Apr 2008, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 29018 times:

That looks beautiful! I'll ski there!!! Great news for the area and investment like that will help Romania grow to become a stronger EU member. I wonder what the powder on the mountain is like?  bouncy 

User currently offlineAdriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 28923 times:



Quoting Traindoc (Reply 3):
Amazingly beautiful city for Romania.

Romania has dozens of beautiful cities Big grin

Great news from Brasov!!


User currently offlineHowSwedeitis From Sweden, joined Jul 2007, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 28904 times:
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Quoting Flynorth (Reply 2):
can definately see Scandinavian charters there. Scandinavians (at least Swedes) are always on the lookout for new holiday destinations

You've got that right!!  Wink

Fascinating place. I can't wait to hopefully go there one day.

-HSII



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User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 28800 times:



Quoting Vio (Thread starter):
According to sources, a new international airport will be built in Brasov (...pronounced [braˈʃov]...), Romania. The city is located in the central part of the country, about 170 km from Bucharest, in the Carpathian Mountains and has a population of about 285,000. The city is a major tourist attraction, especially the ski resort "Poiana Brasov".

Amazingly beautiful city. God Bless Brasov.


User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 28690 times:

Found my new mountain....

User currently offlineFWA2500 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 28667 times:

reminds me a bit of Karlovy Vary in the Czech Republic, another beautiful city. i would love to visit Brasov some day, thanks for posting the info and all the photos! Big grin


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User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 932 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 28539 times:



Quoting HowSwedeitis (Reply 6):
Fascinating place. I can't wait to hopefully go there one day.



Quoting FWA2500 (Reply 9):
i would love to visit Brasov some day

Easy access as we speak via Delta Airlines JFK-OTP and then intercity express rail to Brasov in less than 3 hours. Also you can choose to hop off and on the train to visit and ski the slopes of Sinaia, Busteni, Predeal, Azuga .

For extreme winter sports though I would recommend Fagaras mountain by landing at Sibiu International, featuring now a brand spanking new airport.


User currently offlineUsdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 978 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 28484 times:

To be honest, this might be a godsend compared to taking the train out of Gara de Nord in Bucharest. Who wouldn't want a few smiles from the RO flight attendants in lieu of awkward encounters with gypsies on one's way north?

That said, Brasov is beautiful. Don't miss Romania's fall with its numerous leaves and layers of fog covering the Bucegi Mountains. Taking the train gives you the opportunity to see all of that, and it may very well be worth the hassle.


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 28424 times:

I believe that one of our very own esteemed members was closely involved in this project and led the consultancy team on it IIRC.

I'm sure he will have more to add to this thread should he so choose to get involved.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 28407 times:



Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 12):
I believe that one of our very own esteemed members was closely involved in this project and led the consultancy team on it IIRC.

Really ??!! That's fantastic.

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 12):
I'm sure he will have more to add to this thread should he so choose to get involved.

I'm sure he would have lots to add  Wink



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 28399 times:



Quoting Cornish (Reply 13):
Really ??!! That's fantastic.

Yeah. I hear he's a fraud. He really collects weekly benefit payments from his estate in inner Sheffield. The very same person who said he's written articles and books yet failed to submit any titles.  Wink  Silly



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 28387 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 14):
Yeah. I hear he's a fraud. He really collects weekly benefit payments from his estate in inner Sheffield.

Sheffield? Pah. Huddersfield if you must know  Wink

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 14):
The very same person who said he's written articles and books yet failed to submit any titles.

Says the person who clearly never checked his PM's after the question was asked.........  Wink



Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 28373 times:



Quoting Cornish (Reply 15):
Sheffield? Pah. Huddersfield if you must know

 rotfl  Haven't visited Huddesfield, although passed through it by train. Invariably a nicer place than Cornwall.  Wink



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineFlyMeToTheMoon From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 242 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 28329 times:

When pigs fly they will start building the airport. For about 15 years now the government and different "interested" parties are still arguing over the exact trajectory of a lousy highway from Bucharest to Brasov; building an airport is a lot more complex. Apparently it needs to go through the "right" parcels of land so that the owners benefit from expropriation buy-outs. Part of the airport story is similar - the local government will allocate payments for expropriation, buy the land but the airport will never be built since there is no economic viability to it. Romania has quite a few local airports that are falling into disrepair and have no economic viability whatsoever (think Bacau or Arad, although the latter has some glorified dreams of becoming a cargo hub). Others, such as Timisoara are viable and have quite a few flights due to significant economic activity. With the eventual development of the highway Brasov will be about 90 minutes drive from OTP and BBU airports which have plenty of flight including international and low-cost. Brasov simply does not have the economic and demographic power to justify building a new airport and sustain its operations when there are two fairly large airport to the south and one to the West (Sibiu - SBZ). But good luck to them, it will probably become another Dracula Park.


Fly me to the moon... but not through LHR!
User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 28277 times:



Quoting FlyMeToTheMoon (Reply 17):
When pigs fly they will start building the airport.

Well pigs must indeed be flying because construction has started.

Quoting FlyMeToTheMoon (Reply 17):
still arguing over the exact trajectory of a lousy highway from Bucharest to Brasov;

well the testing terrain and a lack of government cash has something to do with that.

Quoting FlyMeToTheMoon (Reply 17):
Romania has quite a few local airports that are falling into disrepair and have no economic viability whatsoever (think Bacau or Arad, although the latter has some glorified dreams of becoming a cargo hub).

But Brasov is a private investment not a state/local government owened airport like the others.

Quoting FlyMeToTheMoon (Reply 17):
Apparently it needs to go through the "right" parcels of land so that the owners benefit from expropriation buy-outs.

most of ther land was owned by Brasov or Ghimbav anyway. Bugger all other land-owners. There's only one or two farmers that need to be relocated too.

Quoting FlyMeToTheMoon (Reply 17):
With the eventual development of the highway Brasov will be about 90 minutes drive from OTP and BBU airports which have plenty of flight including international and low-cost.

If and when it gets built it will stil lbe a long way into the future.

BBU is getting pretty full. Very unlikely there will be much room for significant expansion there - if indeed it doesn't ultimately get closed and built on.

Hey the locals want it, Brasov is really booming by Romanian standards, there's potential for decent tourist demand, high VFR traffic, the airlines are showing a lot of interest, no big environmental showstoppers and its largely private money. Why shouldn't it get built??

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User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 932 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 28214 times:



Quoting FlyMeToTheMoon (Reply 17):
Romania has quite a few local airports that are falling into disrepair and have no economic viability whatsoever (think Bacau or Arad, although the latter has some glorified dreams of becoming a cargo hub).

Maybe so for Bacau although being home of Aerostar I'm sure it will survive as a convenient fully licensed B737, BAe, Avro RJ, SAAB maintenance center.

Latest from Arad is that at least 33% is to be put up for sale very soon. For now Blue Air and Ryanair are operating flights to Barcelona, Stuttgart, Bucharest, Milan Bergamo, Valencia, Verona. Not to shabby if you ask me. With a brand new cargo terminal (second only to Bucharest OTP) capable to simultaneous accommodate three C/D type class aircraft, makes Arad Airport a very attractive buy.

With a poor ground-infrastructure (very limited freeway-network, slow and antiquated rail) Romania and its 17 domestic airports are a sure bet for consistent air-transport returns. With limited investment all Romanian airports cold be up and running in no time. Privatization could be the right answer.


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