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Airborne Irishness: 19/08  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12600 posts, RR: 34
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6357 times:

Greetings folks and welcome to Irish aviation 19/08. Thanks very much to Pe@rson for setting up No. 18 ... we didn't take long to get to 260 posts. Just shows that we Irish can talk the tailwheel off a DC3 ...

Anyway, for no more valid reason than the fact that I was looking through the search engine, I thought I'd share a few old Irish aviation photos; mostly Big Green (or less green, as it was years back), but also Aer Turas and to please our friend Pe@arson, Ryanair. I'll intersperse a few throughout this intro ...


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So, Summer is upon us and thanks to the IT department of Aer Lingus, flying to America costs slightly less than the Aircoach from the airport to Stillorgan! I can only imagine that some poor computer geek is having his fingers fed individually through a mangle!


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So, what's on the horizon in the weeks ahead? Well, Mr. Dempsey's stint as Minister for Transport is likely to come to a halt within the next three weeks, as Brian Cowen takes on the reins; we can only hope he's not playing Gordon Brown to Bertie's Tony Blair! Brian should be considerably better than Ahern when it comes to aviation policy; for one thing, he doesn't have thousands of aviation employees in his constituency, so he has a slightly freer hand to act; as a former transport minister, he was the one who created the first crack in the wall of the SNN stopover, back in 1993, so hopefully he will have a good understanding of aviation and how it can contribute to growth.


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The Cork Airport debt issue has hopefully been solved and it was encouraging to note that all three airports will be independent within the next two years. I do think, however, that some element of competition is needed, particularly in Dublin. It is encouraging that the DAA has caught up with the growth shortfall of recent years, but it has done very little on the cargo front and that's something that needs to change. An independent cargo terminal would be a very significant step forward and hopefully, a precursor to a competing passenger terminal in years to come.


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Leaving aside the slight SNAFU over the tickets, things seem to be looking quite good for Aer Lingus and they have, at last, got themselves sorted out on the long haul front. With the DAA actively marketing DUB to Asian operators, that hasn't come too soon. With a good inflight product, good staff, fine aircraft and an aggressive approach to marketing, EI can develop its long haul services effectively. I know I haven't been shy about expressing doubts about DM here, but he seems to have found his feet and the airline is now quite nicely. Let's hope this continues. The price of oil isn't going to make life easy for any airline, but I think EI is in a good position to withstand the pressures caused by this as most major carriers, possibly even more than FR, depending on how effectively they have hedged.


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Well folks, enough yapping for now; it's 7.30am and I haven't had a chance to look at the Sundays, so I'll leave it over to you: enjoy and make merry, for tomorrow we may be flying Ryanair ...


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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7319 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6351 times:

Ryanair are already bullying the Maltese government.

http://www.independent.com.mt/news.asp?newsitemid=67938

"Ryanair carried 350,000 passengers to and from the islands and operates routes to and from London, Dublin, Pisa, Barcelona, Stockholm, Bremen, Valencia and Venice."

While acknowledging Malta’s “huge potential to expand its tourism product”, Ms Dowling said it was unrealistic to envisage growth or establishment of a base given the current costs. She urged the government to “lower costs and prioritise growth, choice and competition by opening up the island to the low fare revolution which consumers in other European countries have enjoyed.”



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User currently offlineAlangirvan From New Zealand, joined Nov 2000, 2106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6345 times:

Some nice photos - can you find another shot of the Carvair that my family used between Bristol and Cork back in 1966? We were due to fly back Cork to Bristol, but when we were at Cork to check in, we were told the plane had diverted to Shannon because of fog. A very fast road journey to Shannon to make that flight!

Don't suppose EI would be interested in flying DUB-MAN-JFK to replace the BA service?


User currently offlineJWMD123 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6344 times:

Had a good flight with EI yesterday to BHX. Took off early and landed early.

Did not get a chance to talk to staff to get their reaction over the €5 issue as the flight was about 75-80% full.

Anyway for the first time I have done the EI web check-in for my flight this evening.

Quite easy, like the FR check-in.

The big differences in EI check in is:

1. Select you seat
2. You print of one boarding pass for the airline and a customer copy (good idea instead of ripping and folding bits of paper).


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7319 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6340 times:

Wonder if Ryanair will have a €5 sale to celebrate this:


Limerick branded Europe's murder capital
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-n...uropes-murder-capital-1353526.html



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7319 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6331 times:

A quick round up of the smaller press stories..

Starting in Shannon- I see rent a quote is back - this lady really talks shite - she started winding me up over the whole SNN LHR brohaha

http://www.live-pr.com/en/aer-lingus...ce-repatriation-of-r1048189305.htm

"Reacting to the news, Mayor of Clare Councillor Patricia McCarthy said she was delighted that the repatriation service between both airports had been reinstated."


And proof that she talks shite - her next rent a quote was:

According to Cllr Patricia McCarthy, Mayor of Clare, “..... Modern mums and dads are conscious about the impact of disposable nappies on the environment, and they want to do the right thing.”

http://www.dunphypr.com/?p=722


I see the Aer Lingus staff are still fighting against change... Its interesting to see the socialist worker party slant on the whats happening

http://www.swp.ie/news/swissue284/ae...squeezeworkersforsuperprofits.html

Aer Lingus workers represented by SIPTU voted to reject the proposed deal from management by a thre-to-one majority. In Shannon airport there was 100% rejection.

Perhaps if SNN staff were more flexible in previous years, and the base wasnt so expensive for Aer Lingus the route disucssed above may have survived.

Meanwhile over in Knock the guardian reports

"Something new has just arrived at Knock airport. It's called security"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/apr/20/transport.ireland



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17155 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6326 times:



Quoting BestWestern (Reply 4):
Wonder if Ryanair will have a €5 sale to celebrate this:

They have already taken that opportunity, and offered 100 000 tickets for €5



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12600 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6313 times:



Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 2):
Some nice photos - can you find another shot of the Carvair that my family used between Bristol and Cork back in 1966? We were due to fly back Cork to Bristol, but when we were at Cork to check in, we were told the plane had diverted to Shannon because of fog. A very fast road journey to Shannon to make that flight!

Couldn't see a photo on A.net, but did a Google search and found a production list:

http://www.geocities.com/anjapaul/production.htm

... and this photo of one of the fleet at Birmingham:

http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1000396/

Not one of Aer Lingus's best fleet decisions; probably tying with the Viking for the "worst aircraft" title ... I recall one Aer Lingus captain saying of it "a bloody awful aeroplane, it really was"!


User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6301 times:

As always a fantastic intro Kaitak.

In relation to the DAA promoting DUB to Asian operators, who is the most likely? With SQ dropping their cargo service will they start a passenger service (perhaps via anoher European city) or is SIN just a step too far? Something makes me think that a Chinese carrier may be most likely. When are Air Asia or Jetstar starting long haul ops?



Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27342 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6295 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
Just shows that we Irish can talk the tailwheel off a DC3 ...

LOl.... well done Pe@rson on the last thread !!! Congrats Kaitak on the new one nice photos of the old days !!! A very wet and chilly day here in Spain !! Still the change is good....

One thing I noticed on yesterdays flight was the quick boarding . Maybe I'm wrong and it goes against my usual opinions but free seating seems to be quicker as people are not looking for certain seat numbers on their boarding card. Also I noticed that on our flight 70% did not have check'n go (Priority boarding) and alot of bags were being loaded into the hold. Maybe it depends on the route. I guess Spain is holiday makers so they take a 15KG case . Most had little or no hand luggage. So maybe MOL's idea of hand baggage only may not work on certain routes.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17155 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6291 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 9):
. Maybe I'm wrong and it goes against my usual opinions but free seating seems to be quicker as people are not looking for certain seat numbers on their boarding card.

That is true. Free seating usually go much faster. Pax runs to the a/c to get the best seats  Wink



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12600 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6284 times:



Quoting EIRules (Reply 8):
In relation to the DAA promoting DUB to Asian operators, who is the most likely? With SQ dropping their cargo service will they start a passenger service (perhaps via anoher European city) or is SIN just a step too far? Something makes me think that a Chinese carrier may be most likely. When are Air Asia or Jetstar starting long haul ops?

AIr Asia has started long haul ops (well, to Gold Coast, Australia), but the UK should be started later this year; it has recently ordered 10 A330s and already has A350s on order ... not to mention the fact that its long haul operations were started with our own EI-SHN!

Although SIA pullled its cargo operation, I still think that it will be the first to bite. It has expressed interest in DUB, something few other Asian carriers have done. I think that SQ would have to start via another European airport, but ultimately SIA would want to fly n/s and I doubt that it would be willing to wait until 2014, when the parallel runway opens.

Quite a few of the Chinese carriers operate A330s now - CA, CZ, MU and HU. (Who's HU? Hainan!) The A330 would be an ideal aircraft, particularly if the airline operating the route could plug into a hub operation at PEK. However, Chinese carriers - particularly CA - have been experiencing losses on long haul flights, so they would probably want significant incentives.


User currently offlineEISHN From Ireland, joined Feb 2007, 1509 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6283 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 11):
not to mention the fact that its long haul operations were started with our own EI-SHN!

Indeed it did! It still flies in its original interior config, of 36/279, with the same seats, and IFE on IFE, just with different seat covers, and carpets.



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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19260 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6282 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
Pe@arson

 rotfl 



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineCOEI2007 From Vanuatu, joined Jan 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6229 times:



Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 2):
Don't suppose EI would be interested in flying DUB-MAN-JFK to replace the BA service?

I'd say they could market the flight as MAN-DUB-JFK with one flight number, and promote pre-clearance, but then again, I doubt they would bother. I'm sure theres traffic ex MAN to JFK that EI could capture, but the only way I could see them doing it, is via DUB


User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6222 times:

Nice intro as always Kaitak. Good idea posting a few pics from years gone by.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 9):



Quoting B747forever (Reply 10):

Yeah the best thing to do is just leisurly walk to the rear stairs & pick your seat at the back of the aircraft while about 90% of the pax run to the front stairs & fight for seats up the front  Wink


User currently offlineGosimeon From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 664 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 6194 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
I thought I'd share a few old Irish aviation photos; mostly Big Green (or less green, as it was years back), but also Aer Turas and to please our friend Pe@arson, Ryanair. I'll intersperse a few throughout this intro ...

Cool pictures. The first one is class; with the six crows perched on top of the tail!

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 1):
Ryanair are already bullying the Maltese government.

Lobbying for a lower tax base is not bullying in fairness. I think it's good that FR do this. This sort of lobbying is the reason so many can fly today compared to yesteryears.

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 5):
"Something new has just arrived at Knock airport. It's called security"

A bit tongue in cheek from the Guardian! Any ideas what other airports are without any proper security?

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 11):
AIr Asia has started long haul ops (well, to Gold Coast, Australia), but the UK should be started later this year; it has recently ordered 10 A330s and already has A350s on order ... not to mention the fact that its long haul operations were started with our own EI-SHN!

Indeed they were. Notably the worlds first ETOPS Airbus to be delivered. Here's a lil history of the A/C:

02/05/1994 Aer Lingus EI-SHN
27/04/2004 Air Algerie F-OMSA
28/09/2005 Air Madrid EC-JMF
14/09/2007 Fly Asian Xpress 9M-XAA


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12600 posts, RR: 34
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6174 times:



Quoting Gosimeon (Reply 16):
Cool pictures. The first one is class; with the six crows perched on top of the tail!

You know I never noticed that! Gosh ... maybe Alfred Hitchcock or Tippi Hedren* were on board!

Quoting EICVD (Reply 15):
Yeah the best thing to do is just leisurly walk to the rear stairs & pick your seat at the back of the aircraft while about 90% of the pax run to the front stairs & fight for seats up the front

My plan exactly ... mind you, last time I got off an FR plane at DUB, most of the pax walked right under the wing. I usually go for a window in row 29-30. If I'm going to London or somewhere that requires a Liffy SID, I take a right side seat, so I can get a good view of the airport as we turn and head for the coast. If they're using 10, I go for a left side seat.

Quoting Gosimeon (Reply 16):
Lobbying for a lower tax base is not bullying in fairness. I think it's good that FR do this. This sort of lobbying is the reason so many can fly today compared to yesteryears.

You mean they're making the Maltese cross?  Wink

(*Actress in the Hitchcock movie, "The Birds")


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9113 posts, RR: 70
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6172 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
we didn't take long to get to 260 posts. Just shows that we Irish can talk the tailwheel off a DC3 ...

Imagine if there was a UK Aviation thread? Christ, it'd be more frequent than your Irish ones! The horror!



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User currently offlineGosimeon From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 664 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6167 times:



Quoting Myt332 (Reply 18):
Imagine if there was a UK Aviation thread? Christ, it'd be more frequent than your Irish ones! The horror!

And you guys might even have something to talk about too...
 Big grin


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17155 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6162 times:



Quoting EICVD (Reply 15):
Yeah the best thing to do is just leisurly walk to the rear stairs & pick your seat at the back of the aircraft while about 90% of the pax run to the front stairs & fight for seats up the front

He, he. That is also true. Think it is pretty strange why it is so??



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User currently offlineRineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 881 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6159 times:

Out at SNN yeaterday for the first time since the whole re-branding took place; the terminal looks a lot more bright and colourful with the new signage dotted around the place.

An interesting visitor on the ramp was the Evergreen 747 'SuperTanker'.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17155 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6142 times:



Quoting Rineanna (Reply 21):

Really nice pic. Love the reflection on the water.



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12600 posts, RR: 34
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6141 times:

Nice photo ... like the reflection (although I hope it wasn't because it was leaking!)

User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7319 posts, RR: 57
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6134 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 23):
although I hope it wasn't because it was leaking

Shannon is sinking, didnt you know - it started happening in early January, just after the EI Heathrow last flight.  Smile



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25 Post contains links Rineanna : I just swiped it from Google Images : www.hellomarylu.com/.../09/supertanker_nr11.jpg Does anyone know what the '947' is about, though?
26 AirFinglas : Great pictres Kaitak. I particularly like the Aer Turas pic Brings back fond memories of plane spotting at Dublin Airport in the early 80s. The guys f
27 EICVD : Was over at DUB this evening for an hour, fairly quiet & boring. There was hardly any EI or FR movements. They most interesting a/c on the ground was
28 Post contains links and images Irish251 : Visiting Dublin yesterday was Samsung's BBJ, HL7770: View Large View MediumPhoto © Stefan Welsch
29 Post contains links Pe@rson : Anyone from Ireland to attend the MAN get-together on the 5th/6th July? http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ms/non_aviation/read.main/1873288/ Coul
30 EICVD : I think Classiclover is the only Irish member whos going.
31 Pe@rson : Disgraceful! It's only a mere and cheap hop!
32 EICVD : If I had any money at all I might make the journey over but I literally am broke!
33 Al2637 : Aircraft swap at AMS this evening, inbound flight from DUB had a crew switch and went out to ORK. I've noticed EI scheduled turn times seem to be gett
34 EICVD : Does anyone know if an IB a/c went tech in DUB today? Saw one of there planes (not sure what type) in the SR hangar nearest Pier D today.
35 BrianDromey : Well the turns remain scheduled for 30 minutes on UK routes. I think its all a bit of swings and roundabouts anyway, because although the likes of WW
36 COEI2007 : I think longer turn times are needed especially at DUB. Delays are rediclous most of the time ex DUB. On UK flights except LHR for EI its still 30min
37 EireRock : Brian with regard to your question in the last thread about the BD use of 321's on the DUB route i can tell you that they usually have one 321 doing a
38 EireRock : yes plenty of VIP a/c in DUB this weekend, VP-BRT 737 BBJ was here tonight, arrived from SVO at around midnight, i saw it parked over on stand 49.
39 OA260 : Imagine ..... ------------------------------ According to an article in breakingnews.ie under the business section the DAA has reiterated that it is
40 Post contains links Tonymctigue : I wouldn't put it past them. Yes I'm looking forward to seeing the re-branded SNN in a few weeks time when I leave for ORD. It was something that bad
41 Tonymctigue : I have a quick question. I've noticed recently that on the SNN arrivals/departures boards that there is a flight # AF3675 arriving from JFK & a flight
42 OA260 : Yes it is possible to do this if the fare was right. I guess if the direct CDG-JFK flight was full it would be another option. DUB also has the AF co
43 EIDAA : Flew back with FR last night, but unfortunately we were delayed by roughly 3hrs. According to the captain they had to return to the gate when departin
44 Tonymctigue : Will they be codesharing the SNN-ATL flight in the same way when it resumes in the summer?
45 JWMD123 : Just looking at the price of oil today hitting the $116 mark and thinking of FR with no Fuel Hedging in place. While EI only has 38% of it's fuel hedg
46 B747forever : " target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...3288/ Would love to attend that one. I have by that time summer vacation, so it wouldnt be any
47 BrianDromey : My understanding is that all AF transatlantic flights carry the DL code and vice-versa, I believe the current risk-share is limited to flights to/fro
48 Post contains links Kaitak : De paper reports on DAA plans to develop eastbound routes: http://www.irishexaminer.com/irishex...qa=business-qqqid=60753-qqqx=1.asp Interestingly, ai
49 Smokeyrosco : I'm waiting for FR to announce some renewable initiative that will save them money and allow them reduce there carbon footprint.... not because they
50 BrianDromey : Don't let the door hit you on the way out Joe. Frankly he has done a total of sod all to develop ORK in any meaningful way.
51 Kaitak : If they can get fifth freedom rights (which should be easier now that the SNN stopover is out of the way), then perhaps it's possible. Even still, I
52 Tonymctigue : I agree. Whatever amount of Indian people there are living in Ireland, there are far more Chineese not to mention the growing buisness relationships
53 Kaitak : I think the A330 is ideal for a China route; the A330-200 has the range for PEK and the aircraft has a good cargo capacity; cargo on this route will
54 Post contains links Irish251 : But BRU had the capacity after the demise of SABENA, having just completed significant expansion of terminal facilities which then turned out to be m
55 EIRules : I think PEK or even another Chinese city makes the most sense for EI Eastbound, but unlike DXB it needs to actually be worked at. They cant expect to
56 BrianDromey : I think EI learned their lesson the hard way with DXB. The marketing of the US flights, upgrading of the cabins of the 330s interline deals with UA a
57 Tonymctigue : Yes I would agree that SQ or CX would be the two most likely to launch a DUB-Far East route. EI don't really have the AC to spare at the minute along
58 EI564 : Admittedly, I don't know what he has done either but ORK itself hasn't done badly over the last 4 years (not sure who takes the credit). An extra mil
59 Post contains links Rojam : Yes - and indeed the SNN and DUB DL flights to both JFK and ATL already have their AF codings - and are bookable on the Air France website (and with
60 Tonymctigue : Well it is good to hear. Hopefully this will help both the WX & the DL flights from SNN. The SNN-ATL flight was touch and go this summer & it was onl
61 EIEGAA : From BBC website: A plane has burst a tyre at the George Best Belfast City Airport, the airport has said. The front tyre of a private light aircraft,
62 BHD : Any word from EI regarding the winter schedule at BFS yet? Thanks Woody
63 BFSBHD : Hmm, well it was closed for a short period at least, hence why the RYR from STN diverted to BFS. There where a few in the MAGEE hold for a while too,
64 B747forever : Glad that no one got injured, and that the runway didnt closed down.
65 Smokeyrosco : Not yet, but hey, if it's the 28th or 29th you can expect some sort of transatlantic announcement. If not then probably no Transatlantic until 2009.
66 COEI2007 : AMS is loaded up until March LHR goes to 3x daily from 4x daily, but with a 7.30 departure from BFS, instead of the current 8.45, which is better tim
67 Post contains links Smokeyrosco : North American pax up 43% in March! http://www.rte.ie/business/2008/0422/daa.html
68 Shamrock350 : Apparently Aer Lingus has been advertising in Europe on print, radio and television. Someone saw a TV advert on Discovery -Netherlands and posted this
69 EIEGAA : They've been advertising on the TV in NI a lot of late. They also sponsor the Cool FM breakfast show! It seems that every second City Bus here in Bel
70 Shamrock350 : They've done it in London as well, every phone box is orange! Good to hear! What are the TV adverts like or is it the same advert they launched with,
71 EIEGAA : Yes the same ones. Would be good if they launched some more, but I suppose you don't get many airlines advertising on the TV these days.
72 Shamrock350 : There could be more in the future, I know Enda Corneille said that more adverts like the "enjoy your flight" campaign would run along side the fare b
73 LUPOR1D : Just found this on the indo website: " Gardaí confirmed this afternoon they are investigating the death of a toddler on board a flight diverted to Sh
74 Post contains images OA260 : Yeah I heard it on the 5pm 2FM news coming back from the airport. Very sad . --------------------------------------------------- We disembarked at Pi
75 Shamrock350 : Very sad to hear that. Nice photos, I think they are in DUB for the races. Looks like Spring finally here for Ireland and the UK!
76 JWMD123 : Wonder whats going to happen with the spare slot at LHR
77 BrianDromey : There cant be that many phone boxes left now! I'd say BT must earn more from advertising wrapped around them now, rather than the call revenue, I don
78 Post contains links and images Irish251 : A LET-410 is hardly a light aircraft, assuming this is the type involved. View Large View MediumPhoto © Andy Marks-ManxAirPix The Qatar A330 (A7
79 Post contains links EISHN : I wish EI had done something like this for their last 747 flight... http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=732945
80 OA260 : Does anyone know when EI-DYK was delivered to Ryanair???
81 EI787 : FR's newest according to Jethros, delivered April 18 (last Friday!)
82 Shamrock350 : There is one at the end my road but there's no advertising on it ever. I don't know how many exactly but there must be over 10 in the main shopping a
83 OA260 : Certainly smelt new !!! You could smell the leather like in a new car and the carpets were spotless. Must be the newest A/C I have ever flown on.
84 LUPOR1D : Both the aircraft in dublin- A6-HRM B747 DUB001 - dep 1600 and A7-AFO A330 QTR3012 - dep 1815 after maintenance
85 EICVD : Very sad to hear alright. Sounds very suspicious. So thats at least two VIP a/c from the UAE thats visited DUB in the last few days. Maybe there was
86 Pe@rson : So would love to fly a L4T and SWM. I think I'll probably book EMA-BHD-IOM-LBA for the 2nd Sept. Alas, got to fly FR - only my 11th time in 2 years a
87 EICVD : [quote=Pe@rson,reply=86][Looking forward to seeing the "new" DUB/quote] I wouldnt really call it new now, more like extended.
88 Post contains links Irish251 : You could call it that, I suppose: http://www.punchestown.com/racing/festival_2008.asp
89 Post contains images Pe@rson : Yeah, I said "new" because I've been there a good few times so would like to make it sound, in my head, slightly more exciting.      Will be good
90 Tonymctigue : Good to hear EI are actively advertising in mainland Europe. I often wondered, are there any figures to indicate how many passengers travelling with
91 EICVD : I doubt they were over for punchestown. Them Arabs are more interested in the flat racing which punchestown is not. PS notice my signature
92 Post contains links OA260 : One FR Trip report:::: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/124556/
93 Smokeyrosco : LOL, the Irish "air force" couldn't keep up with a 747 .
94 Tonymctigue : Could have posed a problem allright. Do the Irish airforce have any fighter jets? I know they have some old prop planes they use for training & patro
95 EIEGAA : This would have been 1991, as much as I would like it to have been both years!!
96 Post contains links OA260 : http://www.independent.ie/business/i...or-reform-at-stansted-1355939.html Ryanair 'victorious' as UK report paves way for reform at Stansted
97 EIEGAA : This question has probably been asked before, but why did EI stop its DUB-EWR route? Was there insufficient pax to justify 2 NY routes? How long did E
98 Toulouse : I've often wondered the same before. I can tell you however when I fly the Madrid route it's usually a fairly balanced mix between Spaniards and Iris
99 Smokeyrosco : I'll be doing this on Monday after flying the reverse on friday.
100 Post contains images OA260 : Got an email from EI today. They must be pushing the upgrade service.
101 Kaitak : Unfortunately, there are no fighter jets since the Fouga Magisters were grounded/sold; they could easily keep up with jets and indeed escorted the Pa
102 BrianDromey : Brialliant! 'Airplane driving test" love it! I can imagine the look....EI Ice daggers at their best! Not last seen since 2002/2003! From what I've se
103 JWMD123 : Quick question Does anyone know why EI274 this Sunday DUB-BHX is an A321. They very rarely use 321's to BHX and only once in about 9 years have I flow
104 OA260 : His ads are better than most airlines. He should deffo look at going into advertising he has a natural flare for it.
105 B747forever : Just wonder if anyone can sign for EI emails??
106 OA260 : You can sign up for emails but that particular one I got as I was booked on the DUB-MCO service for next Saturday.
107 B747forever : Okay, I see. Will you fly in Y??
108 OA260 : No I actually cancelled it and got a credit note from EI customer services. I guess I was on some automatic database and they didnt pick up on it tha
109 Danny : ATI reports that BA Cityflyer will start service from LCY to DUB from June 1, thrice daily. Hard times for Cityjet ahead?
110 Smokeyrosco : I wonder if WX will do what it did when EI moved on the route and tuck it's tail between it's legs and run.... I hope not.
111 B747forever : BA have the few last weeks announced some new routes from LCY. Seems that they want to expand there.
112 OA260 : The more competition into LCY the better.
113 Shamrock604 : Just seen the timings for the BA service, they are far more suited to the London Business person travelling over to DUB, something that the Cityjet s
114 Humberside : Didnt it go after 9/11
115 Kaitak : BA is acquiring two RJ85s (ex-Blue One of Finland) for expansion. There have also been rumours that BA is going to be cutting back on some of its LGW
116 EICVD : Ive found out why the VIP a/c from the UAE was here. Sheikh Mohammed was receiving some lifetime achiveme award at the Irish equine centre in Johnstow
117 Post contains images Shamrock350 : Spent the day at Charing Cross Hospital in Hammersmith today, I'm fine I was just visiting someone but for most of the day I sat out on the balcony an
118 Bx737 : Poor Bertie. Yesterday in the Dail (Irish parliament) he was dropping a hint to his successor in waiting that he should get a new government jet as on
119 NU : what are the imes or where can I find them? thanks
120 EI320 : It did, along with BWI They were both cut around the end of '01. EWR only lasted about a year AFAIK. I don't think they will, their much more establi
121 CallBell : BWI only lasted about a year before it was dropped after 9/11. EWR had been going for far longer and had been service by the leased L1011's. EI decid
122 Post contains links EISHN : Here's another two pics of an EI meal coming from the US: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aubrey_rose/2434156513/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/ph
123 Shamrock350 : I'd eat the beef ravioli and cheesecake but not the ham and cheese croissant, mainly because I usually eat them plain. It's nice to see the comment o
124 OA260 : Best thing to do is order a Veggie meal then take your fav snacks onboard . The food looks like school dinners !!
125 Tonymctigue : Interesting. If WX find it hard to keep up the numbers on the DUB-LCY route, could we see them reducing frequencies & opening up a SNN-LCY route usin
126 Shamrock604 : Hi NU, they are on BA.com, but to save you the hassle.... "Notes to editors: Flights to Dublin will depart from London City at 6.50am, 10.40am and 4.
127 Post contains links OA260 : CityFlyer service to London City ends route monopoly A SECOND airline is launching flights on the popular Dublin to London City route, sparking specul
128 Smokeyrosco : I know WX are expensive anyway on LCY but I don't think people realise that taxes and charges come in around 100 euro for a return flight. I picked a
129 OA260 : British Airways is delighted to announce a new route from June 01, 2008. The new three-a-day route will be operated by BA cityflyer. This new service
130 Smokeyrosco : Hey, thats my birthday! Interestingly I just had a look, and a quick one mind you and the cheapest flight I could find was 1 Adult Fare €100.00 Tax
131 OA260 : The Monarch A300-600 is coming back to DUB for the Summer....would love to get a ride on that. I wonder what config they will send to DUB. Ryanair hav
132 Pe@rson : What, you'll be born on 13th July this year?
133 Rojam : a) Great to see more competition, especially on this route. However, the BA timings are of no use to DUB originating commuters. Overlapping WX flight
134 Shamrock350 : I wonder why, loads have been great apparently but people ave wondered about the yield. They have the same sale for Bristol and Bournemouth, must be
135 Smokeyrosco : Ah yes, very good.
136 OA260 : LOL... Shame theres no BHD-BCN !!!(REU). Reading about the prediction of LCC's and the effect of high fuel prices I do wonder who will survive.
137 Shamrock350 : Yeah, I'm sure there are few airlines worrying about their future. I think the big two Irish airlines will be fine but I wonder how Aer Arann will pe
138 Smokeyrosco : RE in theory should go from strength to strength though they may have to abandon the notion of jets for the moment.
139 Post contains links Rojam : RTE's "Capital D" reporting from DUB today, commencing 19h00 RTE1 - and watchable over internet.
140 Tonymctigue : I'm sure RE are thrilled that they made the decision to lease the jets as a trail run before they purchased any. If the rise in fuel prices does inde
141 Post contains links EI787 : Just watched it...good programme. Saw this on RTE's Travel Briefs: http://www.rte.ie/travel/2008/0421/travelbriefs_24april.html
142 OA260 : Hmm the long awaited DTW service . Whats in DTW for the Irish market anyway?? When I was there it was all car factories.
143 Smokeyrosco : Aer Lingus released a list about 4 years ago of 14 destinations they reckon would be successful, two of these where SFO and MCO, I had the list befor
144 OA260 : Was San Jose one of them?? I would like to see YYZ and YVR.
145 Smokeyrosco : I honestly don't know, I spent 45 minutes one night looking at google maps of north america and they where the only 8 I could remember.
146 OA260 : Actually thinking about it now I think it was San Jose or SFO and SFO won.
147 Kaitak : I think San Jose was going to be an alternative to SFO, if the Open Skies deal didn't come through; SFO was the favoured destination, although I do re
148 Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus said a few months ago Canada and YYZ in particular was being looked at for summer 2009. I'm sure they said no decision or announcement woul
149 BrianDromey : I would love to see this. I don't know why, but I really want to visit Seattle. I suppose it is that bit out of the way and unusual. Of course the op
150 NU : GRMA Shamreog604. They weren't on BA.COM when i looked but are now. However, if you try to do a one way it says something about first class upgrade i
151 Eka340 : Could you link to this (if thats allowed!!) cant see it on the site, when i put dates in im still getting normal fares! thanks eka340
152 Tonymctigue : Well I suppose it is a big hub so while there may not be too much demand in Ireland for Detroit itself as a destination, then NW are probably hoping
153 David_itl : That would be a repeat of winter 1994 when EI112/EI111 operated MAN-SNN-JFK (operated 5 weekly I believe?), when AA ceased MAN-JFK at the end of summ
154 Kaitak : I've always wanted to visit the Boeing factory in Everett, although my enthusiasm cooled a bit when they banned photography, a few years back. There
155 Bramble : However the BWI route did return in the summer of '04. I was there during the cicada hatching. Always a strange mix of pac on that route. IAD doing b
156 Post contains links Kaitak : Nice article in the Indo on EI's 50th anniversary of US flights; that's actually next Monday, so no doubt we'll be hearing more about that then: http:
157 Tonymctigue : Nice article. I wonder if EI have anything planned for this occasion, perhaps another 5 Euro buisness class seat sale?
158 Post contains links OA260 : Aircraft options make Ryanair ripe for a bidding By Paul Hoskins Friday April 25 2008 Ryanair shares have been hammered as fuel costs mount, but inves
159 Jamman : Hello Irish Friends, In June I have booked a short hop flight from MAN - DUB to introduce someone to the world of air travel (their 37 and never flown
160 Post contains links and images Pe@rson : Ryanair's new in-flight tune?    It's the second link in reply #1576, page #79. http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4072826#post4072826 Do
161 Post contains links EI320 : Brokers revise Ryanair share price Friday, 25 April 2008 09:41 ABN Amro has slashed its share price target on Ryanair to €2.80 from €4.70 and now
162 EIEGAA : BBC NI reported last night of a large-scale reduction in the amount of personnel based at RAF Aldergrove. Hopefully we'll see a relaxation in the stri
163 Shamrock350 : That is absolutely terrible but it's so catchy at the same time, I'd fly Ryanair just to see the reaction of passengers when it's played! Is it by th
164 Eka340 : Yes i hope so too, plenty of good places to spot from there, where do you spot from at BFS? eka340
165 Pe@rson : LOL. Yeah, it's pretty catchy and funny. I don't know whether it is actually is their new in-flight music.
166 Post contains links Smokeyrosco : I don't think they have that much planned, just some speeches and a re-announcment of the upgrade to the existing aircraft we all know about. Kealy's
167 Post contains links Shamrock350 : It's now on youtube, from the comments it looks like cabin crew actually have to play it before the in flight service but most of them don't like to
168 Pe@rson : Cool. It's funny and catchy. THANKS FOR SHARING!!!
169 B747forever : " target=_blank>http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...72826 Cant get into that one. Here we go. Pe@arson will just make jokes of me now days
170 Shamrock350 : Just try the link below... " target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9hpd...nTTG8 You must be used to it by now
171 B747forever : Sure. I am really used to that. Just take a look in non aviation. " target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9hpd...nTTG8 Thanks, will take a lo
172 OA260 : BMI has signed an agreement with a major corporate group in Ireland which will mean alot of high yield business for BMI. The deal struck also guarante
173 Dstc47 : Dublin Airport office development proposed by DAA The DAA wants to build a €4 billion development over 350 acres to the east of the airport comprisi
174 Jamman : Thats great info Smokey thanks, I'll give Kealy's a try!
175 Post contains links EI320 : DAA announces airport city plan Friday, 25 April 2008 13:27 http://www.rte.ie/business/2008/0425/airport.html http://www.sbpost.ie/breakingnews/busine
176 Post contains links Dstc47 : And a lot more here about Airport City http://www.dublinairportauthority.co...-centre/press-releases/092008.html
177 BrianDromey : Hehe maybe! I think a 50 euro one way fare might be achievable. Or maybe specials for those born in 1958? LOL What a disgraceful comment to make. The
178 OA260 : Yep saw that also !! If BMI DC turns into Miles & Less then I will move to Oneworld again.
179 BrianDromey : Surely not the dark side.....Surely miles and less cant be that bad...although the status thresholds are significantly higher. Actually I think flyin
180 LUPOR1D : Just looking at summer schedules, seems GSM is not operating at all at all to Ireland this summer
181 OA260 : They are flying DUB-YVR and DUB-Toronto Hmm well I will see if its worth it but if the tiers go upto 60,000 then to me its not worth it at all. BMI w
182 Smokeyrosco : Sitting in the B Pier at the moment in DUB looking at my next flight which will be a nice 2 and a half hours to MAD on board EI-DES, I do plan to take
183 LUPOR1D : They were meant to be I know but its not bookable anymore and nothing in their schedules!
184 B747forever : Hope you will enjoy your flight!! Will go for LAX 21st August with BA. Will anyone of you guys be at LHR that day?? We could have a mini meet at LHR,
185 Smokeyrosco : Cheers.
186 OA260 : Just listened to it , they played it during boarding and disembarking on my DUB-REU flights. I think I even have it in one of my TR videos that I hav
187 Post contains links Gosimeon : Exciting news. Competition is good and it is good to see BA increase their presence at DUB. They are a great airline. Yeah, good luck to anybody find
188 EI320 : After that superb ad campaign that they ran on TV, I'd have thought the demand for GSM's services in DUB would have been extraordinary this summer, g
189 BrianDromey : There is a lot to be seen yet, and of course LH will want to seal as many pax from BA as possible. I dont think there would be any reason why BD issu
190 OA260 : YVR starts the 12th May DUB YVR 1500 1630 Y2 941 763 YHM starts the 26th May DUB YHM 1200 1500 Y2 181 752 --------------- S7 Start DME on Sunday !!![
191 ABC9 : Don't know about YYZ but I understand the YVR service has been pulled due to poor sales - it's the 3rd or 4th most popular destination with BA for pa
192 OA260 : Maybe they should stop selling tickets on their website then !!! Monday 14 July 2008 15:00 16:30 €296.33 Monday 21 July 2008 15:00 16:30 €320.63
193 Gosimeon : So they have pulled? Air Transat now have Dublin to Montreal and Toronto flights. Perhaps this threw them off.
194 ABC9 : Apologies if I have this wrong - will double check with my source Given what happened last year, it wouldn't surprise me if they were still taking bo
195 EIDAA : This was interesting to see alright. I wonder what impact it will have on the DC program. What happened with LX, did they adopt the LH Miles and More
196 EIEGAA : Haven't done that much spotting at BFS. I've tried but there isn't really a good spot. BHD is much better (from the top of the IKEA car park) but the
197 OA260 : No its ok I wouldn't doubt it to be honest. GSM wouldn't think twice about taking peoples money then letting them down as we saw last year !!! Why no
198 Post contains links EI320 : Aer Lingus Ground staff have rejected the proposed cost-cutting plans for the second time. http://www.rte.ie/aertel/132-01.html Aer Lingus plan is rej
199 OA260 : Oh well maybe best to avoid booking EI for the next 3-4 weeks until we know what will actually happen.
200 Kaitak : This is a very exciting and interesting development; I'm not quite sure where it's going to be located. Is it going to include the current EI HQ, or
201 Eka340 : Funny I was out there today, youre right there are only so many Q400's you can take! I rarely go to BFS too though if I do theres a little side road
202 Post contains links Irish251 : Have you tried Flightaware: http://flightaware.com/live/airport/EGAA
203 Pelican22 : The article in the Indo about EI celebrating 50 years of service across the atlantic was very good except the photo was of one of the EI (749) Constel
204 Tonymctigue : It wouldn't surprise me after last year's NOC fiasco. While what happened in NOC was probably one of the worst customer service incidents involving t
205 OA260 : I'm due to fly the same weekend and will book my flights on Tuesday. I had settled for EI but I think I will look at my options again. I cant afford
206 Neutral : Quote, The article in the Indo about EI celebrating 50 years of service across the atlantic How about 50 days without the threat of strike at Aer Ling
207 Post contains images Smokeyrosco : IFE on EI shorthaul Pretty decent flight, good friendly crew though they had no ice. When we got into MAD the airbridge wasn't working so we had to wa
208 Toulouse : Did you park right down the end of Terminal 1 (the new"ish"extension). I departed from there a couple of weeks ago which was a pleasant surprise from
209 Post contains links EI320 : http://www.rte.ie/2fm/podcast/podcast_gerryryan.xml I didn't realise EI were handing out iPhones on short-haul flights, Nice idea The front page of C
210 OA260 : LOL.... yes gotta show off the Iphone !!!! Mind you Brian was the first to let us know he had an Iphone!!! I think he broke down the doors of the sto
211 Pe@rson : THANKS FOR SHARING!!! I'm surprised he got banned - again.
212 OA260 : Speaking of which you have been a good boy recently LOL....
213 COEI2007 : I couldnt see SEA or YYC. Maybe YVR in the future, but I think DFW, MIA and PHL will come next. CPT and a far east route cant be too far away either.
214 COEI2007 : Does anybody know how RE's new European routes ex GWY/WAT are selling? AGP is expensive for any of the dates i looked at. it was working out cheaper t
215 EISHN : As much as I would love to see SEA added, I don't think it would do too well. That being said, Seattle is great place to visit, and the nicest people
216 Post contains images Pe@rson : I think I might well have a problem keeping it up, but that's an entirely different thing.   [Edited 2008-04-26 06:40:10]
217 EI320 : I'd say YYZ will be the next long-haul route, even before any new US or M/E route. YYZ was mentioned at the beginning of this year and there is stron
218 EISHN : I think you may be right. I just checked on AA.com, flights from JFK-SNN in October, and flights are available, but not in November.
219 OA260 : Certainly looks that way. AA have closed off all EI codeshares from end October. -------- EISHN you beat me to it LOL.....[Edited 2008-04-26 07:11:07
220 EISHN : You know what they say, you snooze, you lose LOL... It's a pity though, that agree ment was made just before EI joined oneworld, and an agreement was
221 BrianDromey : Not bad at all! Its not 'just' a phone, you know! Anyone I've spoken to who has one loves it to pieces and would not go back to a 'normal' phone. It
222 OA260 : Where you going with your SEA talk LOL..... A bit like ''This is not just an airline'' lol.... When will the 3G version come out ??? Also do airlines
223 COEI2007 : Well, the connections with AA were only really ex ORD when booking on EI.com, and with AA flying ex DUB to ORD, they were always going to prefer to p
224 Post contains images Smokeyrosco : Rumors are surrounding the 3G version coming out in the next few months, probably September though not sure if thats true for Ireland. I asked could
225 Smokeyrosco : LOL, I was trying to get the name of the song which just happened to come on as I had all songs on shuffle, This song was Fly Away by Lenny Kravitz Y
226 Post contains links F1eddie : Is anyone having problems with logging in. I normally use opera, and it has been fine up to a few days ago. But now it signs me in on the homepage, an
227 Smokeyrosco : Got an email from a mate off mine who's invited to a photo call at the American ambassadors house on Monday regarding this, apparently there will be
228 Kaitak : I agree; I think the last time he was banned, it was for "low quality posts"; I think this is quite harsh. I have never known him to have flamed anyo
229 OA260 : They did it on my BFS-AMS on arrival in AMS and also on my S4 DUB-PDL flight last April when we landed in PDL. Didnt they do it in BFS one of the EI
230 EICVD : Anyway, just wondering: has there ever been a water cannon salute at DUB, or indeed at any Irish airport? In the US, they tend to do them for new air
231 BrianDromey : Well, this is a bit of a tricky one TBH. What I tend to do is put it in "offline" mode before the cabin door is closed than power it down. I use it a
232 Shamrock350 : Aer Lingus have a sale from the USA to Ireland but are especially promoting the west coast. The current Ireland - USA sale has been reduced further to
233 LUPOR1D : For anyone who heard, there was a light aircraft incident at Shannon, EI-BPL went off the runway due to a crosswind
234 Irish251 : In Saturday's (26 April) Indo they got it right, with a photo of Super Connie N1005C and with sister-ship N1009C mentioned in the text of an article
235 Dstc47 : There also was an article about the EI transatlantic anniversary in the "Examiner" last Monday. This looked very close to the wording of the story in
236 Tonymctigue : Poor B747Forever. I wonder why they keep banning him? Well I saw an article in the Galway Advertiser a few weeks back that reported that GWY-WAT-AMS
237 OA260 : Hello all from T5 LHR !!! Have to say its very impressive and is unlike any terminal I have ever seen. Its so peaceful and no ques. Lots of places to
238 BrianDromey : I think it was G-BDCC, this is the earliest BD imput into ACARS this morning. For some reason BD do not use their flight numbers as callsigns a lot o
239 DavecFlyer : Its actually G-DBCC, been back and gone again since as well...
240 Post contains images Irish251 : G-DBCC - here it is arriving again at DUB later in the day yesterday. BTW many airlines serving Ireland including EI, BA, FR, LH and WX use alphanume
241 Irish251 : Just noticed this scheduled arrival on the Dublin Airport website today: Origin Moscow Airline S7 Airlines Flight S7 887 Scheduled Time 21:55
242 Gosimeon : Their scheduled service starts today - and it is great to see. Nice to see a foreign carrier come into DUB rather than run out! Good fares too. A ret
243 OA260 : Thanks a Mill. Yes first day of operation.... -------------------------------- Just onboard the worlds largest cruise ship!!! You have to see it to b
244 EI320 : Some people seem to have it all, BD J class, LHR T5, seeing the SQ A380, on the world's largest cruise ship and it's not even 3pm.....LOL Which cruis
245 Greenjet : It's due to the Munster rugby game in Coventry.
246 BrianDromey : Yes, woops! Of course, G-DBCC.....well I hope Phil enjoyed the flight!
247 Post contains links Kaitak : Number 20 is up and running! http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3957913/
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