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How Is USAirways Doing In LHR?  
User currently offlineAirlinespotter From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 10452 times:

I am wondering because I haven't heard anything about how US is doing in LHR and are they going to add more flights out there anytime soon? Hopefully they will add one flight out of CLT.

Kevin @ CLT

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User currently offlinePHXtoDCAtoMSP From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10285 times:

I know they stated the eventual intention of having 2x daily PHL, 1x daily CLT and 1x daily PHX.

The couple of times that I have looked at the flights they are hit or miss. Sometimes the LF is really high....and other times it is only 50% or so. But I think that is typical with a lot of transatlantic flights. Sorry I can't be of more help.


User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10245 times:



Quoting Airlinespotter (Thread starter):
Hopefully they will add one flight out of CLT.

I am surprised they don't already!



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10172 times:

They just don't have slots at a good time just yet.... and they are expensive, to boot.

PHL was a good first step.

NS


User currently offlineRolo987 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9873 times:

I know US is using only a 757 on their LGW service, but does US have demand for both LHR and LGW from PHL?

User currently offlineWhappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9833 times:



Quoting Rolo987 (Reply 4):
I know US is using only a 757 on their LGW service, but does US have demand for both LHR and LGW from PHL?

I'm pretty sure London is a city that can hold demand from pretty much anywhere at any frequencies.



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User currently offlineEtops1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9693 times:

i was told that they also want to add a morning departure to lhr out of phl using a 767-200 but cannot get the slot. it's a difficult one to get.

User currently offlineDiscoverCSG From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 831 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7806 times:



Quoting Etops1 (Reply 6):
i was told that they also want to add a morning departure to lhr out of phl using a 767-200 but cannot get the slot. it's a difficult one to get.

I was under the impression those slots are the easiest to get, not the hardest. The problem is aircraft utilization. Even if the westbound return leaves at 6:30 a.m., it's still over 24 hours for a complete rotation, meaning more than one aircraft is required.


User currently offlineKPHXFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 413 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5653 times:



Quoting PHXtoDCAtoMSP (Reply 1):
I know they stated the eventual intention of having 2x daily PHL, 1x daily CLT and 1x daily PHX.

1 x daily PHX? That really surprises me. I though that the BA289/BA288 flights were a bust for a couple days a week (though they are flying a 744).

What equipment would US post on a flight like this? They don't have any long haul international planes posted in PHX, do they? Certainly no A330s sitting idle. And the B752 (US-West) are mostly domestic or medium haul international.

I just don't see an attraction for US to compete on a long flight like that. Of course, I would love to see more heavy metal at SkyHarbor.


User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1243 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5524 times:

I just worked it last night and frieght wise - nothing has kicked in. Only put two cans of freight on. You'll be lucky to do even two pallets. Passenger wise it has been picking up. Last night was booked to about 200. It's on-time performance has been holding steadily. I would say at about a 97% D0

User currently offlineVS11 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5412 times:

Give it some time please! It has been less than a month since they started.

User currently offlineJlbmedia From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5064 times:
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Has BA seen any decrease in passengers on their 2 daily flights from PHL-LHR since USAirways started service to LHR?


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5027 times:



Quoting KPHXFlyer (Reply 8):
1 x daily PHX? That really surprises me. I though that the BA289/BA288 flights were a bust for a couple days a week (though they are flying a 744).

I just don't see US taking on BA to London from Phoenix. I can see US flying to the continent once a day when some 332's arrive to either FRA or MUC maybe even ZRH all Star hubs.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4980 times:



Quoting KPHXFlyer (Reply 8):
1 x daily PHX? That really surprises me. I though that the BA289/BA288 flights were a bust for a couple days a week (though they are flying a 744).

Would the fact that its a US hub help? Also, they would use an A330 id assume?



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User currently offlineKPHXFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 413 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4876 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 13):
Would the fact that its a US hub help? Also, they would use an A330 id assume?

I'm sure it would help that its a US Hub but I think the competition from BA already flying this route (and on the 744) would preclude this from starting service for something the size of the A330. From what I recall from previous threads, BA upgraded the route from B772 to the B744 in something like 2005. I'm not sure that US can afford the same justification.

Also, they would have to base such aircraft in PHX. Currently, US posts A32x series (primarily US-West at that), B734, 733 (US West), B752 (US West). The A330s and 767s are all on the east coast hubs (CLT, PHL) and are US East metal.

The gates at PHX are capable of accepting larger aircraft but I don't think the market in PHX (even as a hub) is enough to justify TATL service. From what I understand, if you want to fly to Europe on US, you fly from the west coast to CLT or PHL for your connection.


User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1243 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4599 times:

FYI, My number was probably a tad off. Was a real rough estimate. Tonight's flight was booked at 258.

Forgot to mention, blocked out 2 minutes early and took off about 9 minutes early. It's a real treat to be on that flight while PHL is running an East Operation. No more then a 5 minute taxi and your #1 from the time you block out.

[Edited 2008-04-21 23:24:27]

User currently offlineWn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4488 times:



Quoting KPHXFlyer (Reply 14):
B734

No -400s out here.



Tiny, unreadable text leaves ample room for interpretation.
User currently offlineDiscoverCSG From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 831 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 4303 times:



Quoting KPHXFlyer (Reply 14):
The A330s and 767s are all on the east coast hubs (CLT, PHL) and are US East metal.

In that case, it's very simple to run a plane PHL-LHR-PHX-LHR-PHX.

AF is doing this with a 77W, flying CDG-LAX-LHR-LAX-CDG. I'm sure there are other examples of the same idea.


User currently offlineKPHXFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 413 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4168 times:



Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 17):
In that case, it's very simple to run a plane PHL-LHR-PHX-LHR-PHX.

You meant PHL-LHR-PHX-LHR-PHL, right?

Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 17):
AF is doing this with a 77W, flying CDG-LAX-LHR-LAX-CDG. I'm sure there are other examples of the same idea.

That does make sense and would probably balance out alright. In my earlier post, I was assuming that they would base the heavy metal in PHX which didn't make a lot of sense to me.


User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4006 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4048 times:
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IF US is going to compete with BA out of PHX they need to definitely upgrade their inflight product. There's absolutely no comparison at all.

User currently offlinePhllax From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3983 times:



Quoting PHLapproach (Reply 15):

Forgot to mention, blocked out 2 minutes early and took off about 9 minutes early. It's a real treat to be on that flight while PHL is running an East Operation. No more then a 5 minute taxi and your #1 from the time you block out.

I think that flight MUST run on time in order to keep their arrival and departure slots at LHR.


User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1243 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3747 times:



Quoting Phllax (Reply 20):
I think that flight MUST run on time in order to keep their arrival and departure slots at LHR.

Absolutely, if a problem arises with the a/c we tend to change LHR to the aircraft scheduled for MAN. A/C 271 has had a bad week, we did that two times just this week with those routes.


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22877 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3515 times:



Quoting PHLapproach (Reply 9):
I just worked it last night and frieght wise - nothing has kicked in. Only put two cans of freight on. You'll be lucky to do even two pallets.

How did PHL-LGW do cargo-wise back before US flew PHL-LHR? I know CLT-LGW was a very strong cargo performer (and I assume it still is)... they sometimes had to truck cargo to DL or BA at ATL.



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User currently offlineMMEPHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3460 times:

I don't know how PHL-LGW performed but I've just booked PHX-PHL-LHR RT for next weekend for under $800 (including $200 taxes!) and the seat mapper (OK not a perfect indicator) shows 50% open in coach for the outbound and inbound segments.

I can't think why it would be any less popular than LGW, though the timings aren't brilliant (11am arrival 1pm departure) for a lot of people (perfect for me!). What schedule did the LGW flights operate?


User currently offlineDiscoverCSG From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 831 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3312 times:



Quoting KPHXFlyer (Reply 18):
You meant PHL-LHR-PHX-LHR-PHL, right?

Yes. I do that very thing all the time. Sorry.


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26 JACK02116 : and upgrade their 'infllight crew' at the same time. I had the misfortune of flying US from PHL to AMS 12 months ago and I have never experienced a t
27 LACA773 : LOL. I understand what you're saying. My partner has said and experienced similar on all of his PHX-ORD flights on US. I don't know if this is becaus
28 PHLapproach : A little more than a year ago it did extremely well. It was fair amount of online freight of course to LHR, GLA, LTN. That was until we downgraded it
29 Yamatthey : 100% agree with you.
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