Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
LH To Start Round The World Service?  
User currently offlineHailstone From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 409 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2221 times:

was not able to find an old thread on on this one - hope that it is not old 'news'.

LH will suposedly start a round the world service in summer 2001, routing FRA-LAX/SFO-NAN-MEL-SIN-FRA

that would also put LH back onto the kangaroo (sp?) route

any truth / additional info on this one ?

16 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2117 times:

 Wow!, didn't think this was ever going to happen, where did you get this info from?

User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

sonds very, verya strange.
why should lufthansa fly to nadi (NAN)?
lufthansa has often been reported not wanting to operate flights with more than one stop, so this seems unlikely.
i certainly don´t see why they should serve LAX/SFO-MEL, there´s already NZ and UA in the market, and soon AN.
another thing came to my mind just now.
i don´t think that it would be easy and viable to integrate such a rotation into their schedule, at least not this summer sched, because their 744s flights to
LAX/SFO are supposed to serve the following rotation:
FRA-LAX-MUC MUC-LAX-FRA
FRA-SFO-MUC MUC-SFO-FRA
that´s because LH has no 744s based in MUC but deploys them on daily basis from MUC to SFO/LAX this summer.
so they had to fit in the NAN-flights, and that seems quite complicated to me.
FRA-LAX-NAN
NAN-LAX-MUC
MUC-LAX-FRA
this is just based on a guess, just my random thoughts.

well, bottom line, i highly doubt this round the world thing.

best wishes
daniel



If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.
User currently offlineSilverWing From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

Yeah, I also highly doubt it. If ever, this could only be a LH Cargo routing. But they probably won´t intruduce such a pax service.

User currently offlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4498 posts, RR: 72
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2023 times:


It is actually a cargo service!


User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2002 times:

I assume so...  Smile

User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1969 times:

a cargo service?
i didn´t find anything on either traxon.com nor on the LH cargo site.
just checked the distances and for the most part, no LHC plane could make one of these flights without major payload restrictions. the 742F with max payload makes it 6500km, the M11F which i assume would most probably be used on this route, doesn´t go much further than 7500km fully loaded with cargo. they´d have to make another stop on their way to SFO/LAX, most probably ORD, that´s how they´re operating usually, and at least another stop from SIN to FRA, most probably SHJ.
just for the records...
FRA SFO 9163 km
FRA LAX 9334 km
LAX NAN 8880 km
SFO NAN 8782 km
NAN MEL 3882 km
MEL SIN 5998 km
SIN FRA 10282 km
as far as i´m concerned, i don´t think this service is already being operated and i doubt it will happen. however, this is just my guess, and don´t quote me, ´cause i can´t say for sure. we´ll just have to wait and see...

best wishes
daniel





If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.
User currently offline9A-CRO From Croatia, joined Jun 2000, 1574 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1958 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
DATABASE EDITOR

doesn LH have some touristic "round-the-world" arrangement,.
I am not sur if it is LH only or Star Alliance thing



When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward...
User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1952 times:

in cooperation with its star partners, lufthansa offers indeed some round-the-world trips.
rgds
daniel



If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.
User currently offlineHailstone From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1923 times:

friend of mine in the airfreight industry mentioned it, so hb-iwc's info that it is a freighter makes sense.

as JBG points out, there would be payload issues though, but freight does not care if it has to stop along the way...


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4498 posts, RR: 72
Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1905 times:


I have somewhere read something regarding this route, and, IIRC, there was at least another stop between SIN and FRA. Don't remember where, though...


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5297 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

Someone said a while back in another post that LH cargo would fly to Auckland I don't know if this is true or not I hope so.

Scott


User currently offlineToxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

I thought there were carriers already spanning the globe, such as SQ. Any confirmation?

User currently offlineJupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

The service is a freighter MD11 either 3 or 4 a week. One additional stop before LAX then to PPT (tech stop)/AKL/MEL/SIN/SHJ ??/FRA.
The sector from LAX to AKL/MEL is a code share with NZ who will take most of the space then revert back to LH from MEL to FRA.
This will also affect Polar Air Cargo as most of their flights to Australia are on behalf of Air New Zealand.


User currently offlineHailstone From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

word from LH SIN cargo dept is that this will be taking effect with the summer schedule (end mar 2001), once per week using MD-11:
FRA - (undisclosed tech stop) - LAX - (undisclosed tech stop) - SYD - PEN - SHJ - FRA


User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

well, this is very interesting.
a few posts ago, i stated that i highly doubted this service. seems i´ve been wrong...  Wink/being sarcastic
to be sure, i contacted the lufthansa cargo office in LAX and asked for some info.
according to their mail, there will be a joint venture between LAX/LH (don´t know what that means, anyone has a clue?) starting in april . as for the schedule....
this flight, LH8400, will operate an thursday, fridays and sundays, and leaves LAX at 04.10 in the morning and arrives in MEL one day later, 18.50. service will operated from 01APR through 26OCT01, the aircraft will be a M11F.
i had hoped for more detailed information but that´s all i got.
this routing reflects some of what some of you guys heard. hope anyone has some further info. as soon as i get to know something more, i let you knows.

rgds
daniel






If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.
User currently offlineHailstone From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1826 times:

JBG
departure lax at 0410 and arrival mel 1850 A DAY later, really shows you that the earth is NOT a disc and that there are, what, 20 / 21 hours in time difference between LAX and MEL - plus flight time of, what, two times 7/8 hours (via whatever this will end up being).

would look much better the other way around though, with leaving MEL and reaching LAX same day, even 'before' having left from MEL..


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
NZ To Offer Round The World Service posted Tue May 23 2006 21:51:03 by Tockeyhockey
How To Plan A Round The World Easier? posted Tue Oct 28 2003 21:41:43 by Kl911
United's 'Round The World Service posted Tue Apr 29 2003 04:25:03 by UnitedFirst
LH To Be Officially The World's Favourite Airline posted Sun Jun 30 2002 13:45:22 by Singapore_Air
Will UAL Resume The 'Round The World' Service? posted Mon Dec 3 2001 19:04:57 by United Airline
What Will Happen To UAL's 'Round The World Route? posted Thu Aug 16 2001 19:02:15 by United Airline
UA To Resume Round The World posted Thu May 18 2000 23:46:14 by Flyf15
Round-the-world: What To Look Out For?! posted Thu Apr 15 2004 14:05:00 by Ratypus
Quick Round The World Trip; Where To Go? posted Tue Sep 30 2003 06:40:59 by VS340
Question Re LH Round The World Flt Crew Scheduling posted Mon Jul 29 2002 08:02:27 by Airsicknessbag