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User currently offlineDiscoverCSG From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 832 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6646 times:

How many of JFK T7's gates are connected to FIS? How many are capable of handling widebodies?

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User currently offlineAFKLMLHLX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6624 times:

I think almost all of them handle wide-bodies. Unlike many other INTL terminals in the US, T7 has assigned gates even for INTL carriers unlike all INTL terminals such as JFK T4 and T1. Also, the terminal is quite small. I think that on the right side where AC, UA and US depart/arrive out of, those gates are not connected to FIS. Without wikipediaing this, I believe that these three are the only carriers not requiring FIS. However, I am not sure about what UA did prior to the discontinuation of flights to LHR, Inchon and NRT. I once flew out on AC when UA was operating to LHR, but it was in the morning so I don't know how the LHR flight was treated on arrival. Unlike Europe, departures are all the same in the US as there is no passport control so the LHR flight may have departed out their domestic gates and arrived in a BA gate or something. Said before, this terminal works differently as airlines like IB have their own assigned gates. BA has a very large operation out of JFK so they use a couple. The check-in area is always packed! I guess when you operate the busiest TATL route you are going to be busy.

User currently offlineDiscoverCSG From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 832 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6598 times:

Thanks, AFKLMLHLX.

So can anybody confirm whether there are gates in JFK T7 without FIS? I realize some particular flights don't need it, but I'm wondering about gates.


User currently offlineBeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6475 times:



Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 2):
So can anybody confirm whether there are gates in JFK T7 without FIS? I realize some particular flights don't need it, but I'm wondering about gates.

Yes i believe most of them are . I do know that the gates on the side closer to American are fis connected and at least 2 on the Jetblue side. They seem fixed in place but either they have moveable parts on the building that move up and down or if fixed when you enter the building you enter in to a tunnel that can be blocked off to allow access to the fis.


User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6349 times:

Just what exactly is FIS?


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23022 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6203 times:



Quoting A380US (Reply 4):
Just what exactly is FIS?

Immigration/Customs



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8375 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6182 times:
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Terminal 7 has 12 gates, BA generally uses 1-6 and UA 6-12. When UA had international flights to NRT, LHR, GRU, and EZE they arrived at 8,9 or 10. 11 & 12 are only domestic. Cathay, Qantas & Iberia use the BA facitlies, ANA has a mid-day flight from NRT that uses the BA side too. USAIRWAYS uses the UA side as United only has the PS 757 service to LAX & SFO from JFK. This is a British Airways dominated terminal with its Concorde & Terraces lounges.

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6182 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 5):
Immigration/Customs

Thanks I did not know it either (and I think most of the crowd here). I kindly ask people in this forum not to use less common acronyms without explaining.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21637 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 6089 times:



Quoting ZRH (Reply 7):
I kindly ask people in this forum not to use less common acronyms without explaining.

FIS is not exactly uncommon. It's been used in many threads on this board in the past.

-Mir



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User currently offlineBaexecutive From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 6079 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 6):
This is a British Airways dominated terminal with its Concorde & Terraces lounges.

British Airways owns Terminal 7


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 6074 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
FIS is not exactly uncommon.

Probably in the US but not known here.


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 6040 times:



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 6):
USAIRWAYS uses the UA

Last time I checked US Airways (America West) was using the British Airways gates as well as Icelandair. Air Canada uses the United gates



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User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3629 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5956 times:



Quoting ZRH (Reply 10):
Probably in the US but not known here.

I'm in the US and have been on this site since something like 2000 and I don't remember ever seeing FIS here before.



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User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5806 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 5):
Quoting A380US (Reply 4):
Just what exactly is FIS?

Immigration/Customs

FIS is a US airport acronym for Federal Inspection Station.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7535 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5655 times:

Please correct me if I am wrong. My understanding is that BA owns a long term lease (from the NYPA) on JFK T7. (I believe it is the only non-British real estate and only terminal anywhere that is listed amongst the airline's major assets in BA's Annual Report.) I believe that the other occupants of T7 either lease gates directly from BA (so that those airlines have total control of the use of those gates) or lease a gate or gates on a time/day basis.

So, for example, I believe that BA totally controls Gates 1 through 6 on a day to day basis but leases some of these gates to other operators - e.g. NH - for use at specific times of specified days.

What about Gates 7 through 12. Does UA have the prime lease from BA on all of these gates or just, for example, 8 through 12?

And what about the lengths of the leases? The BA lease from NYPA must be a long term lease as BA built (and paid for) T7 and subsequently totally refurbished the terminal (possibly as part of a lease extension agreement?) But how long is that lease?

I assume that UA effectively leases all (or most?) of their side of T7 from BA. Is this correct or do some other airlines lease gates directly from BA? And how long is the UA lease? And, finally, how long are the subleases (if any) between UA and other airlines?

If anyone can throw any light on how the airline / gate inter-relationships at JFK T7 work I would be grateful.


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