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Merger: UA And US Airways May Announce Merger Soon  
User currently offlineAirborne1 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 99 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 31897 times:

Word on the secret underground is that United Airlines and US Airways may be in talks to merge, and may even announce their plans as early as TODAY. Other reports say that they're waiting on union approval and could postpone an announcement in early May.

I know we've all been speculating about whether any other legacy carriers were going to merge after the Northwest and Delta deal got rolling; many believed that Continental and United were next in line, especially with Continental's suspicious postings on their new website, co-industryconsolidation.com.

Perhaps that's not the only deal in motion though? United and US Airways, two airlines that have faced particular hardship over the last few years could well-benefit from the consolidation of their services. Both are in the same airline alliance and have numerous domestic hubs that could directly compete with the the new Northwelta.

Keep an eye on the news and UAUA today. Again, this is all still speculation but big news could on it';s way. finally

What do you think of this? Everyone at UAL thinks CAL.....

[Edited 2008-04-25 07:34:16]

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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 31882 times:



Quoting Airborne1 (Thread starter):

Where did you hear this? I haven't seen anything that would suggest UA and US are in anything more than just "talks." US doesn't give UA anything that CO already has. Plus, CO has a much better LatAm and transatlantic presence. US missed their opportunity last year when both NW and DL were in bankruptcy. They should have made a bid for NW, not DL. Besides, why would UA need both LAS and PHX? They're redundant in UA's network, they already have SFO and LAX. Also, PHL is a chaotic mess, BOS and PIT have already been downsized big-time and the Northeast is simply not the goldmine it once was. Even the shuttle has taken a pounding over the last five years!



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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 31886 times:

This is the best thing that could happen to CO and AA. It will essentially freeze them out of the merger mess. DL/NW might go smoothly, but UA/US wont. It will be a worse disaster than it would have been had it occurred back in 2000


AA and CO are now free to throw sand inthe gears of NW/DL and US/UA, demanding slots, gates, for instance AA looks like a winner in DCA. I cant see a disorganized UA being able to fight WN both in PHX and DEN.

DL/NW has the advantage of being able to close hubs, but what will UA/US close? PHX and LAS I suppose. So all UA gets is CLT. PHL/IAD will be a problem to rationalize......


Winners: AA and CO and WN
Undetermined: DL and NW
Losers: UA and US


User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31767 times:



Quoting Airborne1 (Thread starter):
United and US Airways, two airlines that have faced particular hardship over the last few years could well-benefit from the consolidation of their services

this is an absurd statement, sounds like a statement either from top mgmt or their lackies in the know-nothing media


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31708 times:

It will be CO/UAL, US brings nothing complimentary.

CO's Micronesian Network ties in perfectly with UAL's Narita hub.
CO is the largest carrier in the NYC market
CO's IAH hub is a International Powerhouse, and the Houston economy is booming right now helping offset some of the pain of high oil prices as Houston is benefiting from the current price of oil.



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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31602 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
It will be CO/UAL, US brings nothing complimentary.

one problem with your assumption. What is CO isnt desperate to merge? UA and US are desperate for a partner. UA cant force CO to merge with them (the CO shareholders might) but a forced get together will be ugly.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26150 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31552 times:

This is much in response to a research paper published by JP Morgan on Wednesday which gave a positive review of a United takeover/merger with US Airways.


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31530 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
This is much in response to a research paper published by JP Morgan on Wednesday which gave a positive review of a United takeover/merger with US Airways.

How many share of UA/US does JP Morgan of their large clients own?


User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1593 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31390 times:



Quoting Airborne1 (Thread starter):
Word on the secret underground is that United Airlines and US Airways may be in talks to merge, and may even announce their plans as early as TODAY.

Ah the best source for imformation like this. I heard a rumor last week that today there would be a big announcement about the MQ divestiture but I'm still waiting. Gasoline is in short supply, rice and wheat are apparently now in short supply and airline rumors........well let's just say there are plenty of them to go around.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11974 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31383 times:

Well, for now, these are just rumors, so who knows how they will ultimately work out.

But, all I have to say is God help them if Dougie is running the combined company - as some of the rumors suggest.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31353 times:

This reminds me of the speculation that DL was actually going to merge with UAL instead of NWA up untill the Official announcement of DL/NWA occured, CO/UAL is the most likely out come.


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User currently offlineJawake From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31354 times:

I haven't heard, what was US 1st Quarter results? Just curious, seems to be an indicator on how desperate someone is to merge.

User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4120 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31357 times:

This would be so incredibly awful isn't not even funny. Think the current US and UA have labor issues? I don't even want to think about what a mess this would create...

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31272 times:

If this merger goes through and Dougie is running the show, then I won't even bother trying to make elite on United this year. I've already left US due to their anti-Frequent Flyer policies. There's no reason to think he wouldn't implement these on UA.

Might need to do a Gold or Platinum challenge on AA soon.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26150 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31266 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 7):
How many share of UA/US does JP Morgan of their large clients own?

According to their disclosure, they state neither the analyst involved in the document own LCC or UAUA shares while JPMorgan does not have beneficial ownership >1% in or provide investment banking to either company.



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User currently offlineSurfrider1978 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31213 times:



Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 12):
This would be so incredibly awful isn't not even funny

It's the perfect storm for disaster and I think it is hilarious.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
This is much in response to a research paper published by JP Morgan on Wednesday which gave a positive review of a United takeover/merger with US Airways.

Well I guess people are into the business of throwing away good money these days.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
It will be CO/UAL, US brings nothing complimentary.

CO's Micronesian Network ties in perfectly with UAL's Narita hub.
CO is the largest carrier in the NYC market
CO's IAH hub is a International Powerhouse, and the Houston economy is booming right now helping offset some of the pain of high oil prices as Houston is benefiting from the current price of oil.

Hopefully not. UA is a clusterf**k of an operation and would kill everything CO has built in it's name and reputation.


User currently offlineRbgso From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31119 times:



Quoting Airborne1 (Thread starter):
Word on the secret underground is that United Airlines and US Airways may be in talks to merge, and may even announce their plans as early as TODAY

We can only hope. This is the best news the airline industry has received in years. When these two boat anchors join forces the resulting collapse and liquidation will remove a lot of excess capacity from the market.

This is a prime example of two wrongs certainly not making a right......


User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 31068 times:

Quoting Airborne1 (Thread starter):
Other reports say that they're waiting on union approval and could postpone an announcement in early May.

US and HP have yet to work out the union issues from their merger.

Investors are not happy that US is basically running as two separate airlines without most of the promised savings from the merger held up because the union agreements have not been obtained.

US merging with anyone else would only make the situation worse and investors more unhappy - unless of course the deal was to pay off all the US investors with cash so they could take their money out of airlines.

But this is a strange time and who knows what could happen.

[Edited 2008-04-25 08:40:51]

User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7808 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 31032 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 2):
This is the best thing that could happen to CO and AA.



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 2):
Winners: AA and CO and WN
Undetermined: DL and NW
Losers: UA and US

Spot on EXAAUADL. Personally I would rather this happen because AA and CO are my airlines of choice and I care nothing about UA or US (outside of the people and their jobs, which would be a shame it this happens). Bigger isnt better. It can be, but it doesnt mean a thing. CO one of the smaller carriers and they have the best reputation and one of the more profitable situations.

If this does happen both carriers will be dead in a matter of time.



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User currently offlineAirborne1 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 31004 times:

Here is the article : Trust me... The employees of United only want CAL.. I work for UAL and almost dropped out of my chair when i saw this. I really believe it when it comes from Financial or WallStreet. We've all been trick before
and at UAL we just can't wait until this merge is out. So we can plan our next future with CAL or no future with USAIR..
http://www.gadling.com/2008/04/25/ru...irways-could-announce-merger-soon/


User currently offlineMovingtin From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 30901 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
It will be CO/UAL, US brings nothing complimentary

Do you think AA is just going to sit back and watch all these mergers take place and forever be relagated to a distant 3rd place player?

My "'Guess" is AA and CO canabilizing UAL assets in order to position themselves to compete with DelWest.


User currently offlineDavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 30898 times:



Quoting Surfrider1978 (Reply 15):
Hopefully not. UA is a clusterf**k of an operation and would kill everything CO has built in it's name and reputation.

I agree. But the management of CO has shown they can do labor relations effectively. They have shown that they can build and maintain a loyal customer base. I think CO/UA would be bumpy, but doable. Esp if CO is the acquiring company.

US/UA? Never happen.

Dave



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User currently offlineAirborne1 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 30912 times:

In today's Q&A:

Q. Per CNN Money United and US Airways are in serious discussions and looks like the two airlines are going to merge, truth to what they are saying?

A. Ah CNN Money, or better known as "the media"...they're not always accurate (ahem) but I know you know that. Doug is talking about this now, so you'll hear that...we can't talk about anything specific, but will look at opportunities for our company's future that make sense for our employees, shareholders and customers. thx for the question.

And, I just went to listen to the State of the Airline Webcast. I just noticed that US Airways has placed a link on theHub.com (East Employee Portal) in the Webcast Upcoming Events section that a Webcast is scheduled titled 'Directors and Above Meeting", which will be available for employees to listen to on Friday, April 25, 2008 (tomorrowy) at 9:00 am Arizona time.

West employees likely have a similar link on Compass.

For East employees who want to view the link sign into thehub and click here.

Why did US Airways place the Webcast link onto the US Airways employee website tonight?


This was sent to me by a usair pilot... I watch yesterday CEO LIVE WEB CAST and it was SCAREY.
USAIR CEO Claims in this web cast that they have the most money now to buy someone.. NW comes in second with
funds... He goes on to say that the economy and airline has change more this week and they are in place to merge with someone without mention names. Who do you think it is?


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 30793 times:

The marraige between UA and US would last as long as Britney Spears' marraige to Jason Alexander (55 hours) before it falls apart.

And it would be less useful.

Exactly what would each side gain? How would the stockholders benefit? Where would the hubs be? SFO, PHX, DEN, ORD, IAD, CLT, and PHL? Who would manage the company? (Actually, who is managing them now?) And if US can't get its issues straight after the previous merger, what's going to make this any less of a Roseanne-Barr-singing-the-national-anthem of an airline?

I hear someone in the crows' nest crying, "Iceberg, dead ahead!!"



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User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8503 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 30791 times:
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This is the worst merger that could happen. US and AW already merged they can be Polygamists.

25 Commavia : I sure hope so. AA does not need to merge with any airline - their network is already excellent and well-balanced, with just a few holes here and the
26 Airborne1 : maybe they will undo the merge with America West and give the west to CAL...
27 WESTERN737800 : Hopefully UA and US dont merge. I'd much rather see UA go w/CO. I'd be more than nervous about anyone merging with US and their AWA/US labor troubles.
28 Surfrider1978 : With CO being an all boeing airline, it would make my stomach hurt seeing an A320 in CO colors. No offence, I do like the A320, but I do like all Boe
29 Davescj : This is why US/UA merger won't happen. US has its hands full with merging 2 lists of seniority now. Can you imagine what would happen if a 3rd were t
30 EWRCabincrew : So secret, it is posted here? Or even better known as a "media source" The only thing concrete in this industry is the runway (tarmac). The only thin
31 United1 : Well its Friday April 25th at 0900 Pacific Time what did the webcast say?
32 Surfrider1978 : It's like the saying that "your eyes are bigger than your stomach". US is in no position to do squat, and merging two horrible airlines together is n
33 Airborne1 : Give it some time.. The web cast just started 14 minutes ago... jejeje
34 Post contains links Airborne1 : http://investor.shareholder.com/usai...ways/eventdetail.cfm?eventid=53657 This web cast is only for Directors and ABOVE!
35 Panamair : That alone won't stop Parker. I wouldn't completely write off such a combination simply because one should not underestimate Parker's resolve to part
36 Zone1 : A CO/UA merger would bring both IAH and EWR, two hubs that would be an important addition for UA's network. UA has a minimal presences in NYC and the
37 BNinMSY : If CO/UA hook up ... no doubt American would pursue USAirways ... There is no way our government will allow all this .. hopefully.
38 Cubsrule : Why? Just because?
39 Commavia : I highly doubt it for all the reasons listed above and more. USAirways is an absolute and complete clusterf*ck - operational, PHL ATC, labor, etc. -
40 BigOrange : If a US/UA merger happened, they could close down the PHL hub, and move everything to IAD, which would be a win-win situation for the NE. DCA would ha
41 Laxintl : Per JPMorgan a UAUA+LCC tie up works well for many reasons. A brief summary of their main points. Employee/Unions: None of the UA nor US employee cont
42 STLGph : don't know where this is coming from. there's nothing at all on the blurbs about US and UAL. ...yet.
43 Surfdog75 : The only way it would make sense is if US was split up again. It's possible you could see UA getting the East Coast operation and CO getting the West.
44 Davescj : I agree. But do you think he's in any place to put his name on the dance card? His tuxedo after all has yet to get back from the cleaners. And, he is
45 Malaysia : I know some at US and they are worried more about the flight benefits than anything else in the merger They still want to fly for free rather than pay
46 WESTERN737800 : I totally agree with ya man. I've been a Boeing man since I could walk. But its kinda a necessary evil with all of this merger talk. It'll be strange
47 EXAAUADL : Distant 3rd palce player where?? in ORD? DFW? MIA? LAX? NYC? There is a misconception that you must "be big" to compete. if CO mgmt runs the new airl
48 Loggat : That was true until November of 2007. Now UA employee travel is free for economy, just like US.
49 Gsosbee : In the case of US, which union, and what are they going to do with the other union? The merger might be on, but if they are working on union approval
50 Movingtin : Hmm. Isn't that exactly what I said: The fact is a combined DAL/NWA and CO/UAL will be huge compared to AA. They will have major presence in just abo
51 Commavia : Size does not = success. Really? How about Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, Heathrow, Dallas, Chicago, Miami, L.A., New York, Boston, St. Louis? AA will have
52 HNL-Jack : It does seem something is up. Everyone I know back in CHI has suddenly gone mute. Last I heard that US could be a target of acquisition, but in combin
53 ArcrftLvr : Is this the same underground that the media uses? It sounds legit to me... I know you just joined (and Welcome to A.Net), but in the future, before y
54 ArcrftLvr : Ukraine International Airways??? Oh no! This would spell disaster....
55 UA2162 : If, and I stress the IF, this is true... AA here I come! I spent almost two years at US. I have seen what they can do to an airline. Ouch.
56 MSPDL : Wow I feel bad for the employees if this is true... I just cant imagine the stress..
57 Flighty : You think this is all about geographic coverage. And you're (with respect) totally wrong about that. It is also not about fleet commonality. That doe
58 Davescj : I think you mean NW/DL? And you're right. Fleet differences can be dealt with. Over time, you'd see an all Boeing fleet again. I have to ask, what is
59 PHLBOS : IIRC, US has recently been scaling back LAS. I've stated this before: in a UA-US hookup; CLT & IAD would stay, PHL (as a hub) would get the boot.
60 STT757 : On the contrary, CO management were open to E-Plus during the September Flyertalk meet in Houston. Atleast for International routes, no comitments th
61 EXAAUADL : If CO mgmt really thinks that E plus is a good idea right now, they arent nearly as smart as theyre given credit for.
62 WorldTraveler : A couple notes: 1. CO’s life changed on 4/15 when DL announced its merger with NW. Though long expected, CO has to dramatically rethink its strategy
63 D328 : Let US and UA merge then let them go bankrupt and then liquidate. The less airlines in the US the better. UA and US aren't that great of airlines anyw
64 United1 : The only thing that I can add to that is on the UA earning conference call Tilton mentioned that there was an opportunity that they were talking abou
65 ArcrftLvr : The difference is, CO can also do that for UA and has more to offer than US in terms of geography and fleet commonality.
66 Enilria : First, let me say I have my doubts about this whole thing even being real. United wants very badly to sell which means US Airways would be the buyer.
67 BlueFlyer : Very good notes, even though there are more than a couple. Your point about pride is excellent, and it made me think of something else that's very va
68 Surfrider1978 : Two thumbs up on that quote. I agree! Now this is a good idea. It would be good for CO to get a western hub if this were the case ala (PHX, LAS, even
69 United1 : Actually except for the 733/5s CO and UAs fleet have absolutely nothing that meshes together perfectly and I'm not even sure if the 737 classics do.
70 STT757 : The DL/NWA means almost nothing with regards to NYC as NWA is already a non factor save routes to DTW or MSP, CO also has the advantage of owning 68%
71 Commavia : I think it's not nearly as apocalyptic as you make it seem. Sure, Continental will lose some incremental revenue from losing their distribution throu
72 Avek00 : US brings a North America route structure that's more complementary to United, and some interesting opportunities for expansion on international flyi
73 OA412 : Given the dynamic nature of this industry I don't see how you can completely rule this scenario out. Care to share why you believe this to be true?
74 Evan767 : US brings nothing complimentary? Hang on a second... US is strong in Europe, UA weak in Europe US is pathetic in Asia, UA dominates Asia Not only are
75 ArcrftLvr : I'm unsure about the flight decks, but they also have the 752s and 772s in common. How different are the 764s from the 763s?
76 EXAAUADL : Is US really any stronger than UA in Europe?? What are each carriers ASMs to Europe?
77 United1 : Yup and USs future airbus orders are IAE powered which are the same type that UA uses on their fleet, also it would solve the WB crunch at UA rather
78 B757capt : But one thing is for sure the mangament team at UA makes more money on a sale of a company.
79 United1 : COs 752s are RR powered UAs are PW COs 767s are GE powered UAs are PW COs 777s are GE powered UAs are PW None of that is that huge of an issue to ove
80 Commavia : I'd hardly call USAirways "strong" in Europe, nor United "weak." Through most of (January-October) 2007, United carried almost double as many passeng
81 Frontierflyer : This is a suicide mission pure and simple!
82 United1 : That's assuming that US would acquire UA, which might be a bit more then US can handle right now. Taking a look at market caps US is worth around 625
83 Allstarflyer : The classic way to start a rumor thread on Anet. I disagree that DL/NW will go smoothly much at all and I totally agree w/the latter. It would depend
84 Commavia : This is true, but I'm playing along with the rumor - which supposedly presumes that Dougie will be running the show! (Scary thought, I know.)
85 United1 : That is a scary thought...although I really have no issue with Dougie sitting at the head seat in the board room as long as hes gagged and straitjack
86 PHLBOS : I wouldn't call becoming the no. 2 carrier out of PHL within a few months time of starting operations, taking a beating. What's been hindering WN fro
87 Cubsrule : AFAIK, AA didn't break any promises in terms of route or fleet planning made during the TW acquisition. Labor is obviously a different story...
88 DC8FanJet : What a bunch of crap. No one wants to talk about Continental's past, when they fired everyone and invited them back at half pay. "oh, that was a long
89 Avek00 : I wouldn't be surprised if LH is working feversihly behind the scenes to encourage a UA/US merger, to the point of being willing to put several hundre
90 GeorgiaAME : Personally, I prefer Delta-West. And please, get rid of that (new) hideous tail!
91 Post contains links STT757 : Contrary to what WorldTraveler stated CO has two excellent options they are pursuing (as per article below), WT mentioned CO would lose revenues from
92 STT757 : DL would need to merge with either AA, B6 or CO to acquire enough slots at EWR, JFK and LGA to overcome the amount of traffic CO currently handles at
93 Rockinflyer : Although competition is always healthy, D328.
94 Surfrider1978 : Before you start attacking people, you should know that I was one of those dedicated employees, so get your facts straight buddy. My beef isn't with
95 Davescj : I can't see US/UA working together because of labor issues. Remember, not only is US having labor drama, UA has had its share as well. This would beco
96 LesMainwaring : Or perhaps from a 16-20 year old whose only contact with "upper management" has been when someone ordered him to clean the deep fryer before closing
97 Post contains links STT757 : Some more information from the New York Times: If CO and UAL do merge it appears from reports that they have already laid out the groundwork. http://w
98 CIDFlyer : I am wondering if somehow Lufthansa is the driving force to have United and USAirways become bedmates instead of Continental due to the Star Alliance
99 IliriBDL : Like I've said in the other threads, it would make sense for UA/US to merge being that they're both in Star Alliance and LH backing them up. (includin
100 FriendlySkies : I think UA is just hedging its bets in case CO doesn't want to play anymore.
101 Post contains links STT757 : Things are moving fast here but it appears that plan "A" for both CO and UAL is to merge with each other, according to reports it could be announced b
102 WorldTraveler : which is simply an attempt to try to argue that "my tool is bigger than your tool", which as we know doesn't necessarily translate into performance w
103 AirTranTUS : US and UA would be a good fit. They both have similar (crappy) service. Much better to have one airline with such service than two.
104 STT757 : But it still will not give them enough slots to ever really challenge CO's EWR hub, even after merging with NWA. WorldTraveler please read the latest
105 Post contains links Airborne1 : http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/26/bu...html?_r=1&ref=business&oref=slogin another story today on the merge....
106 WorldTraveler : again, you persist in thinking that you have to have the biggest piece of hardware to get the job done. AA is not the dominant airline in Chicago but
107 UALPUFF : Don't worry the fleet will be in UA colors not CO
108 STT757 : CO has early orders for the 787-8 also. Which is why they are blessed with two good options, Alliance with AA or Merge with UAL. Either way they are
109 WorldTraveler : right after DL's. duh. Everyone knew that CO was taking a risk by choosing not to deepen its relationship with Skyteam - which they could have done a
110 Post contains links United1 : Latest and greatest News Report....nothing that isnt already know but thought I would sumerise it here. http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/080425/americanairline
111 DeltaL1011man : I think AF wanted it alot more than DL. DL went stupid and started this whole revenue sharing with AF. I'm happy AF/KL isn't putting any money into D
112 LAXDESI : As stated in NYT article, CO would like to complete a merger before Bush leaves office. Odds are high that we will be left with three legacy airlines
113 United1 : True what might be a divestiture for one carrier might be a great asset for another or visa-versa.
114 Davescj : I agree. They would be better of doing the merger now. As pointed out in other threads, CO/UA have a good mix particularly in Asia. And lets face it
115 Tsaord : If US employees refer to their own airline as the "ghetto" airlines then I do not want to seem them merge with anyone lol. Yes I have heard it from th
116 AgentXE1225 : My friend that works for US refers to them as "the Greyhound of the skies", and I know that no one here wants to ride the stinkin' bus. I do feel for
117 Alangirvan : CO + UA would also mean welcome to the Star Alliance for CO, so how would CO get on with LH? EWR is a big port for LH, so an airbridge between EWR and
118 AgentXE1225 : OOOH! From the perspective of an agent that moves pax traveling to European cities that only have 1 CO flt/day from EWR to OAL that don't have codesh
119 Post contains links Davescj : According to this article in the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/26/business/26air.html?ref=business (published 26 April), (NY Times, fr
120 WorldTraveler : I am glad DL is not accepting AF's money either; money means control. DL is more than capable of being world class without AF's money. DL has wanted
121 Commavia : Say what you will, but all of the benefits Delta + Northwest will have will also be bestowed upon a merged Continental + United, and then some. This
122 Avek00 : Beyond the "link the major energy centers of the world" general strategy of the SkyTeam Alliance, CO had no reason to deepen its ties with SkyTeam me
123 STT757 : Don't forget the 8 777-200ERs CO has on order, they bridge the gap until the 787s arrive so there is no more gap. If there are further delays to the
124 WorldTraveler : no they do not. UA and CO already serve some of these cities nonstop from the US; DL has the ability to improve the quality of the revenue NW carries
125 STT757 : Yet CO remains more profitable since 9-11 compared to DL, AA, UAL, US etc.. And how much more did DL lose in the 1st Quarter compared to CO?
126 WorldTraveler : which have exactly the same range as CO's existing 777s which are incapable of flying anything beyond HKG and BOM - both of which CO cannot fly year
127 Malaysia : I agree
128 United1 : Before you start trumpeting the 777LRs ability to operate ultra long range flights (which is what your taking about if those flights exceed the abili
129 Evan767 : Yes, a big presence in Australia. And we know that anyone who's anyone wants to fly CLE-LAX-HNL-GUM-CNS-SYD to get to Sydney.
130 Post contains links Allstarflyer : Bias? Fyi, reply 37. And my remark is otherwise not unfounded. Some financially-minded people before and after are not as gung-ho about the transitio
131 Avek00 : Oneworld primarily connects the world's banking and finance centers, SkyTeam connects the energy centers, and Star Alliance does a good combination o
132 HNL-Jack : UA/CO talks apparently progressing. Announcement as early as the end of next week according to sources within UA offices in Elk Grove Village. Some wo
133 DeltaL1011man : What has AF done to help DL? gave them crappy LHR slots that are on lease? O boy sure happy DL had AF around.
134 IronDuke08 : UAL Nearing Decision on Potential Merger Partner: " target=_blank>www.wsj.com From the article:
135 WorldTraveler : there is no airline in the US or East Asia that is operating the LR. SQ doesn't operate it and TG doesn't operate it. The A345 is a very poor excuse
136 Zone1 : I doubt p.s. will be gone because many corporate contracts UA holds require a 3-class plane. If the new airline drops p.s. they will be handing over
137 DeltaL1011man : I understand that but if its so great (as you say) why did it take AF ten years to get DL to do it? Why hasn't CO jumped on it with someone. For some
138 Cubsrule : I think you have to subscribe to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" theory about P.S. All indications are that it makes money, and if that's the c
139 Sac : It is still not to late for CO to change the current orders from the ER's to the LR's or even 300's. Delta had no choice but to order them to try to s
140 United1 : The the LR is a great aircraft, no doubt of that, but can it fly that far profitably with the cost of fuel being what it is? At some point, unless yo
141 BN727flyr : You are 100 percent correct. Once again, Commavia, correct. You get today's Gold Star!
142 WorldTraveler : being able to operate from interior hubs to Asia is precisely why DL will command a revenue premium. That is the principle that has allowed TATL flig
143 STT757 : So now you have set the bar to aircraft with 10,000nm + range only count? Please, there are not that many routes outside of the range of the 777-200E
144 HNL-Jack : What I'm hearing is not an Alliance! It is in fact a merger of stock, the stock being held by a corporate holding company to be called UAL Inc.. Thre
145 United1 : Then please explain to me why, DL/NW has dropped transpacific flying over the years from, LAX, DTW, PDX, JFK, and never tried it from MSP(outside of
146 Cubsrule : DL/NW will be much larger at JFK than NW was when they operated JFK-NRT; a similar argument might be made about LAX. I think all now acknowledge (in
147 HNL-Jack : Let's see...UA has IAD, ORD, DEN, SFO, LAX. Weaker than the DL hubs, I don't think so! In any case, I agree with United1;
148 United1 : Oh agreed they will be and as I said in an earlier reply I'm sure you will see some O&D routes from LAX and JFK (maybe even some hub fed routes) open
149 DeltaL1011man : I thought they where going to try to make an MD-80 winglet after the 767 winglet( the same people who make the 737/757 winglet)
150 Post contains links STT757 : More from the Chicago Tribune: CO is taking their time as they want to ensure their customer and employee relations does not suffer, kudos to CO's man
151 Cubsrule : I can't help but wonder if shrinking IAD is smart; it's far less congested than EWR, and while Washington is smaller than New York, there's also no B
152 Aguslamm : It looks like UA is cheating on US....apparently they are in merger talks with CO...!!
153 Joeman : I could be wrong, but I really doubt the combined carrier would need two "reliever" hubs which was the basis for the recent CO CLE expansion which ha
154 WorldTraveler : Happy that they cannot carry a full payload. You ain't up to speed on things if you think any airline is comfortable with payload restrictions. huh?
155 CIDflyer : Well now that all bets are off on UA/CO it looks like UA/US now becomes a distinct possibility. Perhaps we could see LH making a large investment to p
156 Cubsrule : I've said this elsewhere, but it bears repeating... IAD is a far, far, far better southeast/Latin America hub than CLT. The strength of the local mar
157 IliriBDL : It has more of a chance of happening this time just for the reason that DL and NW are merging. If the govt accepts their merger, then they would have
158 United1 : Yes they do, however the first choice on UA is not to route a passenger between PHX & PVG via ORD, they're routed via SFO. ORD is great for capturing
159 Max Q : Lovely match, go for it !
160 Post contains links PHXtoDCAtoMSP : http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j...KdhDuHcNmUvFFpTPKyBIMJAWgD90AUMP00 It appears that UA & US will look to announce in the next two weeks. "Very a
161 United1 : Theres quite alot of speculation at this point that Parker won't be taking over.
162 Commavia : Yeah, now that Continental has dumped United, I think United's going to make sure the USAirways deal gets done. I shudder to think ...
163 FriendlySkies : I'm terrified to be quite honest. Although I'd give Parker the benefit of the doubt, I think he'd be smart enough to keep what works for UA (i.e. 3 c
164 United1 : There is that, but money talks so am sure that they can come to some agreeement at some point. CLT,BOS, LGA, and the shuttle for starters. Allot of P
165 Commavia : This is, if you ask me, likely to be the ultimate result: - Charlotte presence and the Northeast (Boston and LaGuardia) to be maintained largely as-i
166 PHXtoDCAtoMSP : Well one carrier operating a big network out of DEN just went into bankruptcy while the other carrier operating a big network out of there just lost
167 Commavia : The reason that Frontier just filed for reorganization has nothing to do with Denver - in fact, as recent statistical analysis has shown, they have a
168 Xtoler : Isn't this the same rumor before HP and US merged? As of today we definately know UA and CO aren't merging, and people are surprised by this why? US a
169 PHXtoDCAtoMSP : Parker and Tilton have been itching to merge for quite some time now. Get these two together, and I imagine something will get done pretty quickly...
170 United1 : Putting aside Commavias jabs taunts and thrusts at UA (I'll say one thing shes consistent) shes right in that UA won't shift flying to PHX, WN is jus
171 Post contains links AerLingusA330 : http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/mar...ited-airways-advanced-talks-merge/
172 Commavia : Not jabs and taunts - just reality as I, and many others, see it. Uh, that's he, not she, thank you.
173 Post contains links PHXtoDCAtoMSP : http://www.reuters.com/article/merge...pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0 This one is better. Talks about probably having to divest east coast assets
174 Bmacleod : Didn't they announce a merger back in 2000? We all knew how that turned out.. Of course things are different now.
175 Tooluther : Can US still spin out MidAtlantic as a divestiture of their DCA operations as previously planned in the '00 merger? Since MidAtlantic never had its ow
176 Commavia : That wasn't quite the plan, since MidAtlantic did not exist in 2000. The deal back then would have seen DC Air spun off, with all the Washington-Reag
177 Flyingcat : Also mentioned in the article besides divesting assets is the possible inclusion of capacity cuts. Not surprising Parker does not like to wait for th
178 United1 : lol....he, she, it...sorry should have checked your profile, since your profile name ends in an "a" instead of an "o" I took that as the feminine ver
179 Commavia : I doubt Delta will be getting in on the Reagan stuff. They'll be working overtime to get their own mega deal with Northwest done, and they're not goi
180 United787 : Would someone explain to me what UA has to gain from a merger with US? As I see it: 1. US has still not completed their last merger. 2. UA has nothing
181 Commavia : Not much, except for the fact that Tilton & Co. will finally get the merger they've wanted for several years. Correct, which is why the still-not-ful
182 United1 : True, but anything is possible. Just my opinion on what UA could gain.
183 RwSEA : The ONLY advantage to this merger for UA would be that they'd be able to retire their 737s and replace with newer Airbus models, and be able to expand
184 PHXtoDCAtoMSP : Old US headquarters was in DC (well Crystal City, VA), not in CLT. Tempe was a much cheaper option, not to mention that HP mgmt. was going to be runn
185 DiscoverCSG : Another thought: Perhaps a combined UA/US would spin off PHL - I can see AA wanting it, if anybody does. Same could go for CLT or PHX, I suppose.
186 Commavia : I doubt any network airline would be interesting in assuming USAirways' hub in Philadelphia. Some other carriers might want in on the O&D market ther
187 Enilria : I get the impression you work for Southwest...or at a minimum are a really big fan. If you will review your hubs, you will find that plenty of expans
188 UPS757Pilot : Agreed. Everyone's always bashing US and PHL, but there's no way they'll give it up...the #5 market in the USA. Larger market than IAD which has DCA
189 LAXDESI : A thought provoking and well written post.
190 UPS757Pilot : And now we know how US will solve it's need for an A/C for the awarded PHL-PEK service
191 IliriBDL : Probably the 747 right? I think we should start a new thread, talking about all the possibilities, routes, aircraft, the new name (I think it'll remai
192 UPS757Pilot : I would think so. That's what UA uses from IAD. Interesting to speculate on a new livery...
193 Jasp25 : In view of what has been recently going on in the aviation industry, makes me ask why AA and UA are not doing similar talks? Is AA on a very good posi
194 United1 : UA and AA are the two largest US carriers and while a merger would fill in gaps in eachothers route maps, it has virtually no chance of ever receivin
195 Malaysia : They would keep the UA normal livery, not make a new merger livery?? would make no sense at all.
196 NW748i : They'll be quite welcome. Since I [sadly] won't be flying NW anymore back to DTW I look forward to them bringing in some DCA-DTW non-stops. As much a
197 LAXDESI : US (Ticker: LCC) closed up about 20% today. Not good for UA shareholders in the short run if the merger goes through--I am assuming that this will be
198 Commavia : I'm almost certain the idea has crossed the minds of both AA and United. But, as other posters said, there is absolutely no way whatsoever that the D
199 Post contains links United1 : JP Morgan owns a little under 6% of UAL, however they are not listed as being a major shareholder of US. In case you want to see who would financiall
200 United1 : Not surprising that it shot up a bit, judging on how the stocks of companies that are speculated to merge in the past theres usually a bit of hoopla
201 Post contains links Vega : Here is support for your opinion from someone a little more experienced than the several 24/7 negatively biased a.net armchair CEOs : "US Airways was
202 NW748i : Neat link. They were big supporters of the US/DL deal in 2006. I'm wondering what dog they had in the fight? (other than the fact that it was a legit
203 MKE22 : Why? Because UA doesn't have a Southeastern U.S. hub like CLT?
204 Commavia : Sorry to say, but that "consultant" has - whether some like to hear it or not - no more or less authority or knowledge of how this will play out than
205 United1 : JP Morgan owns a little under 18% of DL, I don't know if they did at that time but they do currently, If you figure that JPM would have been able to
206 Clipper136 : There two different kinds of airline hubs, 1 - Connecting hub. Low O&D and high number of connecting passengers. i.e. CLT, DEN, CVG, CLE 2 - O&D Hub.
207 Commavia : That's great, except that the pilots and flight attendants make up a third of the company. What do you think AA did with TWA? In that case, not only
208 Clipper136 : Thank you for answering your own question.
209 Commavia : Well, first off, AA didn't do that to TWA: the APFA did it to the AFA, and the APA did it to the ALPA. But either way, the reality is that had it not
210 AADC10 : Unfortunately, the current HP/US makes less sense than the old US back in 2001 because of the overlap in the west. I only see a few major benefits: 1.
211 RyeFly : CLT is an established low cost fortress hub with little low fare competition. United isn't going to pass up 75 gates currently controlled by US in CLT
212 CV880 : Yea right.....real objective reporting from a Philly suburb...
213 BOStonsox : Just thinking... AA was supposed to be spinning off Eagle. If it got rid of that and then merged with UA it wouldn't be that big. Its hubs would be at
214 CIDflyer : " target=_blank>http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news....html that is totally ridiculous. Comparing CLT to PHL is comparing apples to oranges, they bo
215 RwSEA : Look at a map and see how close together CLT and IAD are. In fact, CLT is almost right in the middle of IAD and ATL. It's in the Southeastern US, but
216 NYCAA : Actually the TW F/A's where represented by IAM not AFA. What a lot of people seem to forget is that when AA agreed to purchase TWA's assets they were
217 CV880 : I suppose that's why it's such an inferior hub now? What You fail to understand is that there are quite a few people in the South that detest connect
218 Ikramerica : CAL was down 1.5%, UAUA down 2.6%, LCC up 20.4%. This may reflect that LCC was down more than the others recently because the market thought they wer
219 KochamLOT : Speculation but lets get at it... UAL/Usair and Frontier under a new 'United'
220 Mariner : Why include Frontier in that sorry mess? mariner
221 Post contains images CIDflyer : and yet IAD serves nowhere near the amount of destinations or has the amount of flights as CLT does. Actually I did look at the map, CLT is only 243
222 DeltaL1011man : Codeshare with AS and add some flights to the midwest and east coast to feeed them. (But trying not to compete with AS) You do know AA hass 600+ main
223 Jlbmedia : It seems most A-netters love to beat up PHL, but despite all of of PHLs problems, it is a proven money maker with it's huge O & D. If a US/UA combinat
224 BOStonsox : I guess I underestimated AA's size. But if they really shrink the combined airline down I'm sure it will work, just eliminate STL, DEN, and IAD as hu
225 Jlbmedia : Because this is A-net, and he can......
226 Mariner : Not disputing that he can. Baffled as to why he would. mariner
227 MKE22 : Indeeed. Has F9 hit rock bottom? Because they haven't traded stocks for a few days now, or can't you do that while in bankruptcy? Sorry if I sound li
228 Mariner : Yes, but they were ditched from the NASDAQ - because of the Chapter 11 - and are now trading on the pink sheets. It's very uninteresting there. Coupl
229 MKE22 : I see, thanks for the help big guy!
230 Jlbmedia : Mainer, That was my off handed way of saying the above. I am baffled by many of the comments here. Thank you for your intelligent, informative and we
231 Mariner : I guessed that - I just wanted to clarify. I agree with you about many of the comments, but, as you say, this is a.net. mariner
232 Thegooddoctor : My 0.02: PHX will definately not be closed down - LAS is already on its way out. If anything, PHX might gain flights from LAX/SFO that UA has tried t
233 Cubsrule : ...maybe from the Carolinas, but there isn't a huge amount of demand to Latin America from there and what demand there is is all shared with DL. I th
234 CIDflyer : Rand McNally's number must be wrong, that's where I got those from (of course those would be driving miles, air miles most likely make the difference
235 RwSEA : Ok, let's keep the emotional knee-jerk reaction in check here. All I said is that CLT isn't really all that far from IAD. And it isn't. It's a simila
236 Commavia : Dulles will never be able to support the sort of access to the U.S. Atlantic Southeast in the same way that Charlotte (or, for that matter, Atlanta)
237 Cubsrule : Is it worth it, though, with the significantly larger local market at IAD? Is WN at BWI really a serious threat to UA at IAD?
238 Commavia : I have repeatedly maintained that it is, indeed, worth it, which is why I have no doubt that Charlotte will continue to maintain its status as a majo
239 Cubsrule : I'm not arguing with you there, but I wonder what CLT looks like if, as I imagine UA would, you take away a lot of the Caribbean and Central America
240 Commavia : I'm not sure if United would do that, for several reasons. First, USAirways has a good thing going in Charlotte with all the Caribbean flying - they'
241 Cubsrule : Maybe we need to separate destinations like GUA for which there is almost no local traffic and the vacation destinations, then. GUA, for instance, wo
242 Flightopsguy : IAD and CLT really serve different customer bases. Commavia is correct in assuming that a connection from JAX to CLT and onward is "cleaner" than a JA
243 CV880 : If we were discussing just north/south connex via CLT or IAD, either hub would work, however when you factor in the connex from the remainder of the
244 Cubsrule : On LAX-STT (a pretty 'typical' connection we're considering), it's a 250 mile difference. If 250 miles makes a difference, than surely the argument i
245 United787 : Does anyone think that a UA/US merger is a good idea? From reading the posts above, no one seems to be jumping for joy!
246 BOStonsox : Well, it depends on what they do. PHX and LAS will be downgraded in favor of LAX and SFO. The East Coast is where the problem is. Will BOS remain a f
247 Commavia : Probably, although I'm not sure. United has a minimal presence in Boston and has for a long time, and USAirways' presence there has been shrinking co
248 TN757Flyer : Given that UA's pilots union officially came out opposed to this today, and the fact that US pilots (east/west) hate each others guts, how harmonious
249 Post contains links United1 : UAs ALPA also came out and said that they didn't like UA/CO either, its called step one in opening negotiations with UA. Although I completely agree
250 BOStonsox : Oh, and I forgot PHL. I'm gonna say that PHL will be reduced to a focus city. IAD is halfway between PHL and CLT. One of these will go. How valuable a
251 TN757Flyer : I understand where you are coming from, my brother is a recent retiree and I've heard many union horror stories. I just look at the HP/US merger and
252 IliriBDL : How about getting rid of all the unions. Back to the merger, so will the new United Airlines be bigger than the new Delta, therefore becoming the top
253 Cubsrule : It **could** be quite pleasant if everyone was focused on a successful merger. I suspect that that cordial unanimity will be absent, unfortunately.
254 Post contains links DL Widget Head : Well, there's all kinds of opinions and points of view. Here's one analyst's take on PHL... http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news...ited_in_advanced_m
255 United1 : No, UA will be in second place, however how much smaller then DL will depend entirely on much DL and UA trim back after the mergers. Unions have ther
256 Apodino : One funny question. I assume the merged airline would be called United and would keep all the facilities in Chicago and Elk Grove Village intact. What
257 IliriBDL : United1, do you expect something to be announced within the next week?
258 United1 : I'm not part of the discussions (nor do I work for UA/US) but what I'm hearing in news reports other sources is sometime in the early/middle part of
259 IliriBDL : Yeah, saw in one article, it mentioned how they've had discussions for over two months now. I think that might have been the reason why Continental pu
260 DL Widget Head : I highly doubt that. Everything that I've read suggests that CO was UA's preferred partner for a multitude of reasons. I'm sure US is plan "B" for UA
261 RyeFly : When it comes to the PHL vs. IAD vs. CLT discussion, we really don't know what these airlines will decide to do until it comes from the horses mouth l
262 PITIngres : Most programmers have heard the one about the guy who fixed up a program so that it was 50% smaller, used 10x less memory, and ran 1000x faster than t
263 EMB170 : Don't forget FL on this one, Commavia. They have wanted more access to Reagan for a long time and fought the DOT tooth and nail to get frequencies fr
264 Cubsrule : Is a 130 mile difference really important when you're traveling nearly 8000 miles? I just don't buy this argument. However, some unions in the indust
265 Ctermua : We were discussing the merger mess at work yesterday and we all had a good time comparing it to a really lousy night out. Guy walks into a bar, (Tilto
266 Commavia : The vast majority of USAirways' operations at Reagan - like at LaGuardia, but to a greater extent - are Express flights - flights with smaller props
267 CV880 : Maybe not But this is, and has always been in the CLT Hub's favor... UA said that they would further develop the CLT Hub back during the 1st merger a
268 United1 : Sounds like the perfect reason for a merger to me...
269 Cubsrule : I won't argue with that with respect to domestic flights, but CLT simply lacks the local market necessary for a lot of international flying, and that
270 CV880 : To be on the safe side, CLT needs to extend 18R/36L to 12k to avoid MTOW penalties for that to happen. This was also approved by the FAA in 2000 but
271 Cubsrule : Certainly not, but Europe and Latin America flights have, and some of that flying (in particular the Latin America flying; I suspect CLT is at a sust
272 Cltguy : To update that, before they can extend 18R/36L they have to relocate West Blvd...which they are in the process of doing now. If things continue on th
273 Cubsrule : Honestly, I can't see much additional Europe service beyond CDG working, merger or no merger.
274 CV880 : Or, extend 5-23 now to intersect with the new 18-36W. Use it as a combo taxiway and longhaul departure runway. Your views, but I suppose that the pre
275 Cubsrule : Do you disagree with my view? The foreign investment around Charlotte is mostly German and is well-served by the two Germany flights. LGW is a fantas
276 CV880 : I don't necessarily disagree with the European Route views....actually if UA/US were to merge, I think flights from all 3 hubs (PHL/IAD/CLT) would do
277 IliriBDL : Wish we could get a European city here from BDL, after the merger. (if it happens)
278 Fleet Service : Could we get this reopened in another thread? 277 posts is making this thread a tad lengthy...
279 BOStonsox : Why would BDL-AMS go? I know it struggled in the off-season. But a number of BOS flights struggled and they've been there for a while.
280 IliriBDL : No I meant from UA/US possible merger to start a new route to Europe. I don't see BDL-AMS going either, Delta will keep that. We need either Frankfur
281 Post contains links Moderators : Please continue the discussion in Part 2 at the following link Merger UA & US Airways May Announce Merger Soon #2 Thank you
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