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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1696 times:

Just saw this article and my jaw is on the floor... and apparently its the 2nd time this investigation has been done with the same outcome and nothing changed.

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/BusinessTravel/Story?id=4719237&page=1

She said two colleagues once played a trick on her by putting two planes on a collision course. Distracted by the ruse, one of the men forgot to monitor his aircraft and the plane flew past the airport.

And this....

The inspector general's report finds that errors in Dallas were intentionally misclassified by managers. It happened 62 times between November 2005 and July 2007. When controllers would make "operational errors," managers would record them as "pilot errors" instead.

"Pilot errors" = "pilot deviations" = FAA violations = Your career is over. You will never be able to get hired anywhere again. There go all your hopes and dreams. If it was really bad, you might end up loosing your licenses too. Thats 124 pilots (CA and FO) who's careers might have been ended by these controllers. And thats only the ones we know about.



I must also add that Air Traffic Controllers are, on a whole, the most professional people I encounter in aviation. I have really great respect for them. But stuff like this cannot be tolerated.

[Edited 2008-04-25 11:49:10]

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User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1611 times:

As an ATC something sounds very fishy here... To be perfectly honest it sounds like a gender issue more than anything.

I have never, and will never, intentionally endanger air traffic - my job and career is my life. If what she claims is accurate, it's really bad show on a very responsible proffession, and I doubt they would have got away with it. I can assure you that if this happened in RSA the people would be jobless.



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User currently offlineFuturecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

I can say every ATC person I have met has always seemed very professional and I could never imagine them pointing planes at each other for fun. There is enough going on in the sky as it is.

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 1):
I have never, and will never, intentionally endanger air traffic -

As a pilot, I thank you.


User currently offlineATCtower From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1314 times:

I also heard about this story early today...

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 1):
As an ATC something sounds very fishy here... To be perfectly honest it sounds like a gender issue more than anything.

I would suspect you are correct. As a pilot in school for ATC, I have known many controllers, and this is not the way they/we conduct business. As for the gender issue, that may only be speculation, but could very possibly have merit.

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 1):
I have never, and will never, intentionally endanger air traffic - my job and career is my life. If what she claims is accurate, it's really bad show on a very responsible proffession, and I doubt they would have got away with it. I can assure you that if this happened in RSA the people would be jobless.

If true, this is when the famous saying "hard work of so many sacrificed by so few" would be a perfect fit. I personally know there is nothing I would ever do to intentionally place an aircraft or life in danger. The simple thought of this being true sickens me, and I cannot imagine this is much more than allegations. Time and an investigation will tell. Remember, all conversations over ATC are recorded. I imagine this would be easier to crack than many FAA tasks...

My twocents 



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