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Brazilian Customs Policy At GRU/ GIG?  
User currently offlineSleeperseat From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 93 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4684 times:

I experienced a more or less painfull treatment by the brazilian customs authorities in GRU earlier last year.

I was travelling from FRA to GRU to continue my journey down to CWB. I had to deliver some urgent parts for a automotive company located there.
Once i arrived in GRU at 5 a.m in the morning, all i wanted to do, was to customs clear my goods i had checked in as my baggage. So far so good.....

I retrieved my bags at the baggage claim and headed up to get through the customs, they of course stopped me and asked me to show all commercial items I'm bringing to BR.
So i showed them the commercial invoices to the three boxes i was accompanying and thought they will set up the paperwork to clear it and get me paid the duty on it. ( That's what i thought)

They told me that i need a certified broker to get this done. I know this policy up in the US, but is it really like this in BR????
After never ending hours, i got told that they will make an exception for me and clear my stuff manually. if i pay all duties cash. Of course i didn't had 3000.00 USD with me so they allowed me to store the stuff and get out to the terminal to draw some money. ( That's what i thought)
I got badly reminded at the ATM that i'm only allowed to draw a maximum of 1000 USD. So i called my supervisor in Germany to get an fast cash money transfer on a western union bank. This bank was of course located almost 2 KM away from the pax terminal at the cargo terminal.
So i walked up there, got the money and walked back with the cash in my pocket. ( Hey, everyone knows that you get a bullet for your sneakers in SAO, so what can i say with 3 Grants in my pocket?!)

I paid my duties check and continued to CWB almost 8 hours later after i landed in GRU!!!


Did someone else experienced something like this???

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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3704 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4674 times:



Quoting Sleeperseat (Thread starter):
I retrieved my bags at the baggage claim and headed up to get through the customs, they of course stopped me and asked me to show all commercial items I'm bringing to BR.
So i showed them the commercial invoices to the three boxes i was accompanying and thought they will set up the paperwork to clear it and get me paid the duty on it. ( That's what i thought)

You were importing something for a company. So, you had to pay for the import taxes one way or the other, AFAIK.

Quoting Sleeperseat (Thread starter):
Did someone else experienced something like this???

I think everyone has had there share of trouble at some point going through customs. Before you bring anything that is being sold to a Brazilian company, you must inform yourself about the procedure.

And, one last thing, what does GIG have to do with this?


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23022 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

It sounds to me like they were pretty accommodating. I've certainly been to countries where they would have just seized the boxes.


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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11438 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4579 times:
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Well, as you're not Brazilian you can't take some interesting tools Brazilian Customs offers. We can just go to a lan house, access the internet banking and pay the duties showing to the Auditor the "DARF". The federal documents showing duty was paid.
Baggage is a different concept from a Trade transaction. The officer probably allowed you to clear your boxes as baggage, so you probably also paid a higher rate than import.

But with all I have to say, you were lucky !

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
It sounds to me like they were pretty accommodating. I've certainly been to countries where they would have just seized the boxes.

Correct !

Quoting Sleeperseat (Thread starter):
They told me that i need a certified broker to get this done. I know this policy up in the US, but is it really like this in BR????

Yes, because payments are automatically made by the Aduana System, called SISCOMEX, thru a certified banking account which means no need for checks, or even to walk with money on any pocket. It also reduces the ability to bribe or to avoid the system as it presents a lot of rules for each class of product. All clearence, documents, payments, including banking remittance (L/C, Wire Transfer, ou CAD) is made thru this and Central Bank SISBACEN System. This is why Brazil is able to publish trade numbers for the previous month on the first day of the month.
If you need further info, let me know.

Felipe



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User currently offlineMeridianBUF From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

Take your kids with you next time. Your kids luggage has all the parts and your luggage has clothes. You tell your kid to go several people infront of you (alone) through the customs guy after luggage. Then you go. If they stop you, all you have is clothes and your kid is already through and has to wait a bit. Works every time.

Hockey bags are good. Do you know how much electronic and mechanical samples fit in a hockey bag? A tonne!

Plane tickets for the kids is less expensive than 3 grand and 8 hours lost. Ask your firm.

**If they pull your kid over (which they wont), just run up to him and go with him through customs and bribe the guy. A couple of nice 100 Euro bills do the trick.

Easy.


User currently offlineMilesDependent From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4481 times:



Quoting MeridianBUF (Reply 4):
Take your kids with you next time. Your kids luggage has all the parts and your luggage has clothes. You tell your kid to go several people infront of you (alone) through the customs guy after luggage. Then you go. If they stop you, all you have is clothes and your kid is already through and has to wait a bit. Works every time.

1. Not sure about Brazil, but most countries these days x-ray most pax bags. A kid with a bag full of merchandise will look pretty strange.

2. Customs will know the kid is travelling with someone, as they are able to look into the PNRs of all arriving pax. One of the biggest things customs looks out for is people that they know travelled together, pretending they don't know each other.

3. Using a kid as a gopher is the oldest trick in the book - and one that customs are well aware of. You might be setting up your kid for a whole lot worse as customs might think you are trying to import narcotics etc.

If you follow Meridian's advice, chances are you will still have to pay the duty - and there's a good chance you will get charged penalty tax (or worse) for deliberatly trying to avoid said tax. Finally, there's also a good chance you'll put your kid through hell trying to save a few grand. Not sure what sort of parent would do this...


User currently offlineCmtehori From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4345 times:



Quoting MilesDependent (Reply 5):
Not sure what sort of parent would do this...

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User currently offlinePutnik From Brazil, joined Aug 2007, 229 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4234 times:

Well, few things are certain, be well informed in advance and avoid doing anything MeridianBUF suggests....
Following Meridians line of thinking would certainly land you in a pile of trouble, far worse than it is possible to imagine now. Brazil is not a lawless third world country and should not be mistaken for one.



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User currently offlineJmbarros12 From Brazil, joined Nov 2007, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4155 times:



Quoting MeridianBUF (Reply 4):
**If they pull your kid over (which they wont), just run up to him and go with him through customs and bribe the guy. A couple of nice 100 Euro bills do the trick.

You can´t be serious about that...

Is that the way you use to escape from duty taxes in Canada?



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