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Dallas Officials In Talks With CX, MU  
User currently offline102IAHexpress From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

City officials including the Mayor are on another trade mission to China. They have confirmed a meeting with CX and MU will take place. We’ll just have to wait and see if any new air service develops from it. I can see DFW landing CX service one day.

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"Our goals are straightforward: Get people to come to Dallas, invest money and create jobs," said Karl Zavitkovsky, Dallas City Hall's economic development director and a delegation member.
"Cities like Houston have done a better job in attracting foreign investment than we have. We've lost out because we haven't been aggressive enough," Mr. Leppert said.
In that spirit, delegates confirmed they plan to meet with officials from Cathay Pacific and China Eastern airlines in hope of securing direct passenger air service from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport to a Chinese city such as Beijing, Shanghai or Hong Kong.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...42608dnspodallaschina.3d809f0.html

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User currently offlineBartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 790 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3002 times:

This all sounds great but one of these stories comes about a few times every year. It's good that Dallas understands that it has to step up its efforts and lure another carrier or two to DFW - hopefully something will come about as you have to believe a nonstop link to China/Hong Kong would work well.

User currently offlineTN757Flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2833 times:



Quoting Bartond (Reply 1):
This all sounds great but one of these stories comes about a few times every year. It's good that Dallas understands that it has to step up its efforts and lure another carrier or two to DFW - hopefully something will come about as you have to believe a nonstop link to China/Hong Kong would work well.

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If/when DFW does get a China/HKG n/s, unless APA does a lot of bending, it will be on foreign metal. CX being part of oneworld would be the logical choice, but this has been speculated long since before I left in Dallas, and I left over 4 years ago.


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2811 times:

Thoughs two airlines would do quite nicely in connecting through DFW on their way to South America, Mexico, and the rest of Latin America as well as surrounding cities in Texas and the local region in the US, even on down to Miami!


I hope we find more and more color coming to that wonderful creation that is Terminal D!!!!!

UAL


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2677 times:

I'm also rooting for Dallas...After all I use to spot there for 10+ years..but these types of announcements come up every now and then like Bartond said. I don't think much will come out of it. I do think DFW will see much more Asian service, just not for a few more years.

It's the random announcements (IE: KLM) that we should be looking for!



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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3670 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Anything on the 9W, IT, or AI front?

As for CX, I wonder what incentives they want in order to start DFW. I rather see SFO going 3x before any further expansion since they rather have not relied on ORD or DFW up till now because of the OneWorld association.



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User currently offlineBartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 790 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2543 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 5):
As for CX, I wonder what incentives they want in order to start DFW. I rather see SFO going 3x before any further expansion since they rather have not relied on ORD or DFW up till now because of the OneWorld association.

Yep, you have to think that if the OneWorld connections between CX at HKG and AA at DFW were so strong this route would have been in operation for 20 years. I know there are plenty of connections but CX seems to be really hesitant to open up new routes in the States, as do quite a few East Asian carriers. They seem to be happy with routing their flights through LAX, SFO, YVR, and even SEA and sending pax on from there. JFK is there too but that's New York - a totally separate and unbelievable market by itself.

If CX starts up another US market doesn't ORD seem like an absolute slam dunk? I mean, I love my DFW and all but it's got no chance against ORD as far as existing O&D market plus connections.

Now MU, on the other hand.... Actually I have no idea what MU is up to and why they're even mentioned in the article. how close are they to AA?


User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3670 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2360 times:



Quoting Bartond (Reply 6):
Now MU, on the other hand.... Actually I have no idea what MU is up to and why they're even mentioned in the article. how close are they to AA?

I was wondering about MU, too. I may be wrong, but I thought they were leaning towards *A rather than 1W. They will possibly consider starting DFW after they start BOS, and they've been considering BOS for a year now. Overall, we'll have too see how much DFW will bend over backwards to get any foreign airline into their new terminal!



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User currently offlineB2443 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2202 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 7):
I was wondering about MU, too. I may be wrong, but I thought they were leaning towards *A rather than 1W.

They are not leaning towards *A or anything. But MU does have a code-share agreement with AA that's perhaps why MU is considering DFW. I've heard even their trice-weekly PVG-JFK (A346) is not going well. Their departure/arrival times at JFK are not so great. Their on-line connections to in-land China at PVG are almost non-existing. Why would the AA feed thru DFW work for MU? I have the same doubt about CZ (skyteam)'s PEK-DTW with betting on NW bringing feed to support the route.


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7616 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2154 times:



Quoting Bartond (Reply 1):
It's good that Dallas understands that it has to step up its efforts and lure another carrier or two to DFW - hopefully something will come about as you have to believe a nonstop link to China/Hong Kong would work well.

A nonstop flight to China would definately work from DFW. Im just wondering if it would work for MU. I know it would work for AA (DFW-PVG), but im not sure about MU.

Quoting B2443 (Reply 8):
Their departure/arrival times at JFK are not so great. Their on-line connections to in-land China at PVG are almost non-existing. Why would the AA feed thru DFW work for MU? I have the same doubt about CZ (skyteam)'s PEK-DTW with betting on NW bringing feed to support the route.

I think you answered part of your question. The times into and out of JFK are absolutely awful. There is one way this could work. IF MU or CX did this flight would have to be timed to connect to DFW's South America network. It could work if that were the case. Plus we would need to see MU and AA make a better codesharing agreement. It could be successful if they did this.



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