Aircanada From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 148 posts, RR: 0 Posted (16 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2674 times:
In browsing the pictures on Airliners.net, I came accross a KLM Boeing 747-300 crossing not more then 30 feet above a beach (Photo ID's are 43329 and 43330). Did this really happen, or was it computer generated. I will try and post them below, but if it doesn't work, I gave you the Id's above.
Boeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (16 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2318 times:
This is no photo manipulation. I have flown into St. Maarten and wondered aloud if we'd land on the beach. The short runway begins immediately across the street from this beach, so widebodies from Europe need a tight landing to make it. Heck of a spotting site.
Asdf From Austria, joined Mar 2014, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (16 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2302 times:
I had my doubts about the first, since the plane looks like its flying through the trees, however, that is probably due to the angle that the shot was taken. Boeing757/767 is right. The runway is really that close to the beach, and so you'll see planes coming in right over the beach. I think a photo of an Air France 747 landing at St. Maarten won something in Aviation Week and Space Technology's contests, before.
Flyer From Canada, joined May 1999, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (16 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2255 times:
As United 946 said, it is amazing. I go there several times a year because I live in Arlington VA, 5 or 6 miles from DCA. You'll most likely see 737's, 727's and MD-80's, but when their less than 100 feet overhead, it is really awesome (you're just a few feet from the runway. You can see where people have jumped the fence to get a closer look). The approach to the runway looks difficult too, because you see the planes making sharp turns on the final approach ( many aborted landings), and no ILS. If you're ever in the Washington DC area, go to Gravelly Point!
Dash8 From New Zealand, joined Aug 2005, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (16 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2228 times:
Actually Princess Juliana Airport in St Maarten is built according to ICAO specifications, which is probably more stringent then the FAR's.
If you think the arrival is scary, line up on runway 09 and you'll see a 2500 foot hill ( actually several) staring you right in the face.
I fly regularly into St Maarten and we either take off from the other side -in spite of tail winds- or follow the strict flight techniques for a runway 09 departure.
Flyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (16 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2207 times:
At Greensboro, you can get to almost the end of 14. I don't know exactly how far you are (it is on a high slightly about the road, so you cannot see the actual threshold), but it can't be more than a hundred feet or so.
Also, at the GA airport near my house in Denver, you can get to within 50ft of the threshold, close enough to use a 50mm lens and still be able to see the pilots smiling It is somewhat scary though, skydiving aircraft do very steep decents and sometimes you are looking at the top of the wing when they are on approach, pointed right at you!
Clipper From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (16 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2181 times:
Gravelly Point is a fabulous spotting location for National Airport. However, the post stating there are many aborted landings is incorrect. Also, that particular runway uses an IDA (instrument directional approach), which basically is a bent beam. Therefore, instrument approaches ARE possible, though the vertical minimums are higher than standard.
Hmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2114 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (16 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2162 times:
I was reading a travel brochure on St.Maarten and they mentioned this beach in particular. Supposedly there is a sign warning bathers to turn their back to the runway when a plane is making a landing so as to avoid eye injury from any flying pebbles and sand thrown out by the jet wash. Close enough for you?
An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
Ilyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (16 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2125 times:
What an amazing approach pattern at St. Maarten! It looks like the planes will actually touch down right on the beach. Makes me want to go there just for the thrill of being right under a huge plane as it lands.
North Island Naval Air Station at Coronado, CA has a similar approach pattern - the planes come in right over the beach at a pretty low altitude. It was fun when I was a kid, growing up there, to watch the planes approach over the water and fly right over the beach. The most amazing aircraft to come in to North Island is the C5 Galaxy - a huge military cargo transport. President Clinton flew into North Island as well a few years back - standing on the beach that night, I could feel the vortices from the wingtips of Air Force One after it passed over.
Another amazing approach is to Sochi - Adler Airport in Sochi, Russia, located on the Black Sea. The Ilyushin IL86 I was in (Aeroflot, of course) made a hairpin turn out over the ocean (looking out the window, I was looking STRAIGHT down at the water!) and flew in low over the beach to land on the runway. The planes take off in the opposite direction. And Russian jetliners are LOUD. I can't imagine sunbathing and having one go right overhead at full throttle.