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User currently offlineAircanada From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 148 posts, RR: 0
Posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

In browsing the pictures on Airliners.net, I came accross a KLM Boeing 747-300 crossing not more then 30 feet above a beach (Photo ID's are 43329 and 43330). Did this really happen, or was it computer generated. I will try and post them below, but if it doesn't work, I gave you the Id's above.

Thanks,
Andrew (aka Aircanada)




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User currently offlineDeltaShuttle From United States of America, joined May 1999, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1568 times:

Here are the pictures.


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Photo © Gabriel Jerusalmi



and


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Photo © Gabriel Jerusalmi



User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

This is no photo manipulation. I have flown into St. Maarten and wondered aloud if we'd land on the beach. The short runway begins immediately across the street from this beach, so widebodies from Europe need a tight landing to make it. Heck of a spotting site.


Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
User currently offlineAsdf From Austria, joined Mar 2014, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1540 times:

I had my doubts about the first, since the plane looks like its flying through the trees, however, that is probably due to the angle that the shot was taken. Boeing757/767 is right. The runway is really that close to the beach, and so you'll see planes coming in right over the beach. I think a photo of an Air France 747 landing at St. Maarten won something in Aviation Week and Space Technology's contests, before.

User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5057 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

I bet here in the USA you'd never have a runway built like that due to all the FAA rules and zoning laws our country has.


Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
User currently offlineUnited946 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1499 times:

Go to Gravelly Point Park in Northern Virginia, at the end of DCA Rwy 36. They'll be so close you could almost touch 'em.

United946


User currently offlineFlyer From Canada, joined May 1999, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1493 times:

As United 946 said, it is amazing. I go there several times a year because I live in Arlington VA, 5 or 6 miles from DCA. You'll most likely see 737's, 727's and MD-80's, but when their less than 100 feet overhead, it is really awesome (you're just a few feet from the runway. You can see where people have jumped the fence to get a closer look). The approach to the runway looks difficult too, because you see the planes making sharp turns on the final approach ( many aborted landings), and no ILS. If you're ever in the Washington DC area, go to Gravelly Point!

User currently offlineDash8 From New Zealand, joined Aug 2005, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

Actually Princess Juliana Airport in St Maarten is built according to ICAO specifications, which is probably more stringent then the FAR's.
If you think the arrival is scary, line up on runway 09 and you'll see a 2500 foot hill ( actually several) staring you right in the face.
I fly regularly into St Maarten and we either take off from the other side -in spite of tail winds- or follow the strict flight techniques for a runway 09 departure.

Dash8


User currently offlineAircanada From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

Thanks for all of your responses! but, do any of you have any pictures of these approaches so close to you, or know where i could find them??

Thanks,
Andrew (aka Aircanada)


User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

At Greensboro, you can get to almost the end of 14. I don't know exactly how far you are (it is on a high slightly about the road, so you cannot see the actual threshold), but it can't be more than a hundred feet or so.

Also, at the GA airport near my house in Denver, you can get to within 50ft of the threshold, close enough to use a 50mm lens and still be able to see the pilots smiling   It is somewhat scary though, skydiving aircraft do very steep decents and sometimes you are looking at the top of the wing when they are on approach, pointed right at you!


User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 63
Reply 10, posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1431 times:
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Hi all

We have all seen photos taken here, but I would LOVE to see some video footage.

Anyone know if available anywhere?

Regards
Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland


User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2104 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (15 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1448 times:


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Photo © Roger Cannegieter




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Photo © Nathaniel Felsher




An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
User currently offlineClipper From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (15 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

Gravelly Point is a fabulous spotting location for National Airport. However, the post stating there are many aborted landings is incorrect. Also, that particular runway uses an IDA (instrument directional approach), which basically is a bent beam. Therefore, instrument approaches ARE possible, though the vertical minimums are higher than standard.

User currently offlineF-WWKH From Taiwan, joined Jun 1999, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (15 years 1 month 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

This looks amazing!

But I wonder if you are sunbathing there - one landing and all the sand sticks to your suncreamed skin - what a mess!

So, how busy is the traffic at St.Maarten?


User currently offlineJWM AIRTRANS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (15 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

That's probably a neud beach, right?

JACK


User currently offlineDufo From Slovenia, joined May 1999, 798 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (15 years 1 month 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

come on, JWM....this is NOT an aviation-related stuff  

Jernej



I seriously think I just creamed my pants without any influence from any outside variables.
User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2104 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (15 years 1 month 4 days ago) and read 1400 times:

I was reading a travel brochure on St.Maarten and they mentioned this beach in particular. Supposedly there is a sign warning bathers to turn their back to the runway when a plane is making a landing so as to avoid eye injury from any flying pebbles and sand thrown out by the jet wash. Close enough for you?


An optimist robs himself of the joy of being pleasantly surprised
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6836 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (15 years 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1377 times:

Is the 7000-ft runway at SXM the shortest that regularly gets 747's?

User currently offlinePandora From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (15 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1375 times:

Everybody has to admit that Kai Tak's IGS is much more eye popping than this...

User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (15 years 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1363 times:

What an amazing approach pattern at St. Maarten! It looks like the planes will actually touch down right on the beach. Makes me want to go there just for the thrill of being right under a huge plane as it lands.

North Island Naval Air Station at Coronado, CA has a similar approach pattern - the planes come in right over the beach at a pretty low altitude. It was fun when I was a kid, growing up there, to watch the planes approach over the water and fly right over the beach. The most amazing aircraft to come in to North Island is the C5 Galaxy - a huge military cargo transport. President Clinton flew into North Island as well a few years back - standing on the beach that night, I could feel the vortices from the wingtips of Air Force One after it passed over.

Another amazing approach is to Sochi - Adler Airport in Sochi, Russia, located on the Black Sea. The Ilyushin IL86 I was in (Aeroflot, of course) made a hairpin turn out over the ocean (looking out the window, I was looking STRAIGHT down at the water!) and flew in low over the beach to land on the runway. The planes take off in the opposite direction. And Russian jetliners are LOUD. I can't imagine sunbathing and having one go right overhead at full throttle.


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