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BA BHX>MAD>BHX - Why Did They Drop It?  
User currently offlineTreeny From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 319 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Hello All

Cant add too much more than the title suggests - why ever did BA drop this route? Am guessing it was yield related.....

Its caused me a pain let me tell you!!!!

Cheers

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User currently offlineHeeBeeGB From Finland, joined Sep 2007, 425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

Because Birmingham isn't in London and BA is now called London Airways

Signed,
a.netters who don't reside in the South East

[Edited 2008-04-29 04:06:50]

User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5316 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

Because they have a dual hub strategy at LHR/LGW and as such have abandoned the regions.

User currently offlineAceFreighter From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2920 times:

Because it didn't make money and BA is not a charity.

Signed

A shareholder - irrespective of residence


User currently offlineSam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2883 times:



Quoting HeeBeeGB (Reply 1):
BA is now called London Airways



Quoting ANstar (Reply 2):
have abandoned the regions

We've heard it all before - no need to keep the BA bashing. At the end of the day, if you want a full service hub and spoke carrier, they have to operate from the capital city. End of story.

As for the BHX-MAD-BHX route, BA can't feasibly operate it, because it does not feed into either of their hubs. A point to point carrier is more suited to such a route.



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User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5316 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2879 times:



Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 4):
We've heard it all before - no need to keep the BA bashi

I wasn't BA Bashing.... merely stating their current strategy and the consequence.


User currently offlineRevo From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

Flybe didn't want it when they took over BA Connect

User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2769 times:



Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 4):
As for the BHX-MAD-BHX route, BA can't feasibly operate it, because it does not feed into either of their hubs. A point to point carrier is more suited to such a route.

I thought MAD was Iberia and, therefore, OW hub. Am I missing something?


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2581 times:



Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 7):
Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 4):
As for the BHX-MAD-BHX route, BA can't feasibly operate it, because it does not feed into either of their hubs. A point to point carrier is more suited to such a route.

I thought MAD was Iberia and, therefore, OW hub. Am I missing something?

Correct, but BA have no interest in serving a partner's hub from a 'spoke' (which is all BHX would be). That is IB's job, and IB obviously dont wish to do so



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User currently offlineGatoVolador From Spain, joined Apr 2007, 435 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2473 times:



Quoting Humberside (Reply 8):
Correct, but BA have no interest in serving a partner's hub from a 'spoke' (which is all BHX would be). That is IB's job, and IB obviously dont wish to do so

What a pity. I'd like to see more IB / Air Nostrum / BA flights to other cities in the UK. I guess that an A319 is too big for the route, and then, even if Air Nostrum could do a good job, both EasyJet and Ryanair would attack if the route was successful, at least in the point-to-point segment.

Regarding the connecting pax, I don't know if there is enough demand (at least 35-50 daily pax) and what is more, in order to serve a hub, only one frequency is maybe not enough.

I'd like to see a BHX , EDI, or MAN flight to MAD, but... it seems a very difficult bet.


User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2371 times:



Quoting Humberside (Reply 8):
That is IB's job, and IB obviously dont wish to do so

What a poor statement, so why AA do JFK-MAN or IB do BCN-LHR or AF do LYS-FCO and so on?

Quoting GatoVolador (Reply 9):
I'd like to see more IB / Air Nostrum / BA flights to other cities in the UK

Also would like more BA services from other cities in Spain into LHR...........also a difficult bet



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User currently offlineDamian From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2354 times:



Quoting GatoVolador (Reply 9):
I'd like to see a BHX , EDI, or MAN flight to MAD, but... it seems a very difficult bet.

Well, there's no BA from those cities to MAD, but there is Easyjet between EDI and MAD, and from June Bmibaby will be starting a service from MAN to MAD.


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2296 times:



Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 10):
Quoting Humberside (Reply 8):
That is IB's job, and IB obviously dont wish to do so

What a poor statement, so why AA do JFK-MAN or IB do BCN-LHR or AF do LYS-FCO and so on?

AA dont do JFK-MAN, and Lyon is a mini hub for AF. Some airlines, such as IB, do maintain limited point 2 point routes away from their hub(s), but not BA in the UK regions (only LCY), which means its down to IB to do any regionla UK-MAD routes they wish to be served



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