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Iran Air To Be Privatised  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

Minister of roads and transportation has announced that Tehran plans to privatize the country’s leading airline, Iran Air. More in here scroll down link to see http://www.iran-daily.com/1387/3113/html/economy.htm#s299310

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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16934 posts, RR: 48
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2591 times:

There's so much potential to Iran Air, but I'm confident the government will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on this one.


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User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 800 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2538 times:

They'll probably do it to some degree. Apparently the airline is profitable and the government has privatised alot of things already.

User currently offlineCurious From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2507 times:

its loss making and grossly inefficient. This news headline has been repeated for a while by the govt, will see if this time its for real.

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Privatizing an airline subject to such Draconian restrictions on parts (due to the U.S. embargo) is an unusual situation - what buyer would willingly buy an airline if he couldn't buy planes or parts for his aircraft?

I will also throw in, at the risk of sounding "political" (and I assure you, I am not!), that Iran's government works in VERY mysterious ways - is anyone really sure of exactly who holds what power? What if the lawmaking body and the President agreed to the sale - only to have an Ayatollah claim that the buyer isn't "muslim" enough? Wasn't that the argument over the opening to IKA?

I do wish Iran Air success - I look forward to the day when the airline is free to fly planes around the world AND its citizens are free to travel to any destination they wish.



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User currently offlineIRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2298 times:

This is interesting news. They have been privatizing a lot of industries in Iran, but I think this one is a mistake. Iran Air needs the government to survive, and the government needs Iran Air to provide transportation to a country where traditional infrastructure is a bit lacking. Plus, a flag carrier is a prestige thing and Iran is all about prestige.

-IR


User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 800 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

According to officials in the government privatising body, the airline runs a profit. I have flown with them three times this year and although it doesnt seem to be the most modern airline, in organisational structure or service, I have no reason not to believe them. All the flights I was on seemed to be full. Within Iran it has a certain prestige compared with the other Iranian airlines and the ticket prices reflect this. How would you know that it is loss making or grossly inneficient?
I think privatisation would be good for the airline, if it is loss making then it would be a bad waste of money to keep it in the public sector. Other airlines operate in Iran as private entities reasonably well so why shouldnt Iran Air. Maybe new management will dispense with the Iran Airtours subsidiary brand which is pretty pointless and their snobbery towards Russian equipment and buy in some Il-96s like they should have done years ago. A new Tu204/Il96-400 in Iran Air colours would look a lot better for them than an ancient B727/B747.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16934 posts, RR: 48
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2127 times:



Quoting YAK42 (Reply 6):
Within Iran it has a certain prestige compared with the other Iranian airlines and the ticket prices reflect this.

Does Iran Air pay market (not Iran) rates for gas?



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User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 800 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

Hmm sorry I dont really know.

User currently offlineCurious From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2075 times:



Quoting YAK42 (Reply 6):
How would you know that it is loss making or grossly inneficient?

the news source is inaccurate, one reason why the privatisation has been delayed is due to the loss, without the govt the airline would collapse.

Quoting YAK42 (Reply 6):
certain prestige compared with the other Iranian airlines and the ticket prices reflect this

Ticket prices are fixed in Iran for all carriers.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 7):
Does Iran Air pay market (not Iran) rates for gas?

no it pays a subsidised rate.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16934 posts, RR: 48
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2055 times:



Quoting Curious (Reply 9):
no it pays a subsidised rate.

That's what I figured, so it wouldn't surprise me if it is "profitable". Would it stand on its own without the government support? Nope.



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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7927 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

This is weird. For one thing, Iran Aseman (IRB) is state owned, they fly 727s and F100s throughout Iran and the Middle East. Also Saha Air (IRZ), who fly 707s domestically, is state owned. So will IRB and IRZ be privatised too?

Having (at least) three state owned airlines is very Iranian. Truly their gov't works in mysterious ways. Btw there's no way any of this is going to happen. Iran's precarious diplomatic situation means they really need IR to be part of the government.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1967 times:



Quoting Curious (Reply 3):
its loss making and grossly inefficient.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Most of IR's financial liabilities exist because of the responsibilities given to it by the government, including government transport and having to fly unprofitable domestic routes as a form of mass transport. Where IR does make money is on services for other airlines.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 7):

Does Iran Air pay market (not Iran) rates for gas?

Even though most of Iran has been pushed onto the market for use of fuel beyond a certain threshold, Iran Air still gets cheap fuel. The fact that far less refining is required helps that as well.

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 11):
Also Saha Air (IRZ), who fly 707s domestically, is state owned. So will IRB and IRZ be privatised too?

Saha is the least likely to be privatized because it is an arm of the IRIAF, sort of like LADE in Argentina.



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