Andaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9647 times:
According to the AY's timetable the Sat 29th of March 2009 will be the day when A330-300 replaces MD-11 on the their HEL-JFK-HEL route. So good old AY MD-11 is saying good bye to NY, after 17 years.
Finnair has been flying to JFK from 1969, with DC-8, DC-10 (1975) and MD-11(1992).
AY's MD-11 also served on the HEL-SFO route in the 1990's.
The first of their seven MD-11's is leaving the fleet in the end of this year, all will be gone by the spring 2010, the ordered eight A333's will arrive 2009-10. They also have five A343's, two of them arriving this year
TrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2434 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9612 times:
Talk about a downgrade for spotters and enthusiasts. Yes, I know the A333 is more efficient, but still sad to see the plans set in stone. Even though it was inevitable, it would have been nice to see the A343 replace the majestic trijet rather than a twin. Of course, the quad is better utilized on other routes.
AY's HEL-JFK route hasn't been any gold mine, but recently the loads have been good, thanks to the weak dollar.
Their A333 will actually carry less passengers than MD-11, 282 v. 269. But their their widebody Airbuses have more C class seats, 36 v. 42. According to their press release the A333 cabins will be identical to A343.
Seat selection only at check in or is that changing?
PM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 7122 posts, RR: 63
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6197 times:
Thanks to all who added to my knowledge of scheduled A330 services across the Atlantic.
I asked because it may be that the A330 is now the most popular twin on such routes. There was a time when it was 767 territory beyond any argument but those days appear to be over. And is the 777 used more than the A330 over the pond? I honestly don't know which is why I ask.
My impression is that the A330 is now used more than the 767 but that the 777 is used more than either.
I wonder how it will look in ten year's time!
Will there be any 767s still plying that route? Will the 787 have assumed first place?
I can remember when it was all 707s, DC-8s and VC10s...
Then along came 747s and Concorde.
My own first transatlantic flight was on a DC10-10 of SkyTrain in 1978 and there were a few TriStar operators over the pond.
But then came the 767...
Since then it has been just twins...
: I had my first transatlantic in 1978 as well, Finnair's charter HEL-YVR on DC-8, that was exiting for the little guy! Once I crossed the pond on DC-1
: I think that they did use MD-11 and DC-10-30 for JFK for short period of time in the early 90's because AY didn't have enough MD-11's yet...
: A downsizing of aircraft seats on the HEL-JFK route may help to increase yields on the route. That's good news for Finnair. Finland is such a modern,
: If you saw any Finnair MD80s,your visit would have been prior to July 2006. The last ones went to Swedish ownership, but the movement was partly bala
: The last DC-10 left AY's fleet 1996, the four a/c went to Air Liberte in France.
: I was on an AY DC-10 as late as April 1994 (to PEK), so the DC-10 was still in service at that time. It's veeeery unusual to see the A343 on this rou
: The flights started in June/2007 ( the first ever long haul route for AH ) on a twice weekly basis . In summer 2008 , the Airline is increasing frequ
: Is this the last passenger service at JFK using MD11s?
: Last scheduled service, unless KL redeploys the MD-11 on the routes, which is likely to happen at some point. Of course, there is always WO for pax s