BillReid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 847 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2302 times:
Allegiant CEO stated they were looking at Punta Gorda and St. Augustine routes in their Q1 conf call.
Is this idea smart or dangerous as Skybus made huge mistakes are these markets damaged . Does it make sense for Allegiant to fly small uni-directional markets with flights from small northern markets. What would the impact be on the PIE flying, would they move flights south from PIE?
From Q1 conf call
Q: Just in terms of some of the small town airports that have been oft orphaned by SkyBus and some of the other bankruptcies, can you talk about growth opportunities that are sort of now on your horizon that weren't previously, and along those lines, also on the charter segment, do you see sort of incremental opportunities given some of the bankruptcies? Thanks.
A: Duane this is Andrew (Levy). On your first point, there's really not a lot of what SkyBus did that we find interesting. Punta Gorda would be an exception. That is an airport that could be an interesting destination for the Southwestern part of Florida so we're talking to the airport. St. Augustine as well. Those are both low-cost airports, and obviously that's something that we do like. That's maybe the one thing that we and SkyBus did similarly is focus on airport costs. As far as the fixed fee side of the business, yes, there are opportunities that are presenting themselves, especially with the demise of Champion, who did a lot of that flying. We're in advanced stages of negotiations with a company that's currently Champion and will be using them until they wind down operations at the end of May. We're hopeful that in the coming weeks we'll be able to announce that we've reached a firm agreement to put an airplane with their customer. There's another opportunity there, similar situation, much earlier stages of negotiation but suffice to say with less capacity out there, we're getting more opportunities on the fixed fee side, whether it be track programs or ad hoc last-minute types of opportunities.
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BOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1887 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2215 times:
If these two airports get Allegiant service, maybe we'll see service to CEF and PSM. PSM was tried and didn't work but after Skybus was sucessful maybe they could give it a go again. Skybus did well here in New England so they should be looking at what made those routes work.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 17 Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1750 times:
Quoting Cloud4000 (Reply 7): I think if allegiant started from worcester instead of chicopee, it would do better.
Allegiant already tried ORH. The way they were blasted by local politicians when they cancelled the ORH flights I don't think they will go back. The Worcester mayor compared Allegiant's CEO to a "charlatan".
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Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21224 posts, RR: 19 Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1737 times:
Quoting BillReid (Thread starter): Does it make sense for Allegiant to fly small uni-directional markets with flights from small northern markets.
That's basically how G4 makes money, isn't it?
I don't think that either PGD or SGJ has the upside of any of G4's current stations, but I think PGD (in particular) could probably support service from some of G4's stronger existing stations. I'm less sold on SGJ.
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Mnevans From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1628 times:
I believe Skybus failed because they couldn't make any money on the cheap(er) tickets. I flew their CMH-PSM route 3 times, and loved it every time. After flying to BOS lots of times, it was a good feeling to not be in all that congestion, something I think 1 or 2-time-a-year flyers would appreciate.
BOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1887 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1487 times:
Quoting G4resagent (Reply 4): I think it is a safe bet to say SkyBus wasn't sucessful. Allegiant was in PSM, and pulled out. I doubt we would go back.
It wasn't sucessful overall. But it did pretty well in PSM. They were even looking at expanding there and building a focus city. I don't know what prompted Allegiant to pull out, but I want them somewhere near Boston, like Quonset maybe, or BED except there are NIMBYs who wouldn't allow it.
N908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 848 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1372 times:
Quoting BillReid (Thread starter): Allegiant CEO stated they were looking at Punta Gorda and St. Augustine routes in their Q1 conf call.
Is this idea smart or dangerous as Skybus made huge mistakes are these markets damaged .
You make airports sound like girlfriends...people don't get turned off of airports forever because one airline screwed up.
Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 1): If these two airports get Allegiant service, maybe we'll see service to CEF and PSM. PSM was tried and didn't work but after Skybus was sucessful maybe they could give it a go again. Skybus did well here in New England so they should be looking at what made those routes work.
This might be true, maybe not for St. Augustine + Punta Gorda but maybe for restarting PSM-SFB or starting PSM-PIE, etc. It's possible that Skybus woke some people up to PSM...but of course you have to look at why Allegiant didn't make people notice PSM the first time around.
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