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LHR-BA T5 - How Is It Going?  
User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1041 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8537 times:

Now that some time has past since the opening of T5, does anyone know how it is going there? Is the baggage system sorted out, have they moved all the flights there, any substantial cancellations? What did they finally do with all the luggage? Have they paid out to the pax according to EU laws?

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User currently offlineSK736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8524 times:
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I flew from T5 last week. Took less than five minutes through security and flight departed on time. Couldn't see any significant delays and no flights were cancelled.

User currently offlineAlanUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8502 times:

T5 is going very well indeed, hence why the media have finally packed their cameras and sent their reporters on more juicy stories! I distribute GPMs (Global Performance Monitors - posh acronym for airline survey) onboard flights and on my recent trips, Terminal 5 has often been mentioned as the best part of the journey from a customer's perspective!

Eurofleet crew are also moving into the building today in the new Crew Report Centre. I would say that of the last 10 flights I've done out of T5, 90% of them have been on time (or within 15 minutes) and that passengers seemed pleased with the experience.


User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8326 times:

I work in it, and the only trouble's of the past few days have been from normal operational problems, IE weather, tech, a runway closing etc.

People come up to me and wonder where the Q's are they have been hearing about in the news. Its a very light building, and I like the fact I can see planes coming in no matter where I sit  Smile which makes it a nice place to work compared to T1 and T4


User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1041 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8250 times:

It is a beautiful building. I was there the day after it opened. It was not the madhouse the media made it seem. I was very impressed that in spite of the size the soundproofing was excellent. It was so quiet.

User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8205 times:

I flew from it last week and was a little disappointed that the passenger flow lines they reckon they have, do not exist. The signage is terrible and when you go thru security you get stranded on an upper floor when the gates are all downstairs.

The lack of signage is no doubt a way to prolong passengers to look at the upper shopping centre. If the signage was any good you wouldn't need all those people standing around telling you where to go next.

Arrivals was good (4 weeks ago) as there were no pax due to the baggage fiasco. If BA and BAA hadn't told us it was so good I wouldn't have thought it myself. They should have modelled it on a European airport. They need to think again about their flow lines.


User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8060 times:

Local news here in London last night showed some of the baggage turning up at auction - initially a bit odd, but they explained that once the passenger(s) have put in an insurance claim, the bags are not considered worth returning, and are thus 'disposed' of as per normal procedures.

Riv'



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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4069 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8025 times:

I meet BA shorthaul most evenings at work. They are definitely more punctual now than they used to be out of T1. I get home on time much more often than before. Slight hiccup last night with the thunderstorms but normally OK.
Our lost baggage area is empty again.
There is a meeting on May 6 between BA and BAA to decide timings of the next moves.


User currently offlineBALHRWWCC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7614 times:

BA's punctuality has improved hugely since the move to T5. In a large part this has been down to the zero tolerance policy with pax reporting to security after the cut off time being automatically denied access to the departure lounge and being offloaded from the flight. It was thought that this new policy would be un popular with business pax however they seem to be embracing it. To them time is money and if there flight leaves on time the happier they are.

The number of bags missing flights has come down alot aswell.


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3976 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7593 times:



Quoting BALHRWWCC (Reply 8):
In a large part this has been down to the zero tolerance policy with pax reporting to security after the cut off time being automatically denied access to the departure lounge and being offloaded from the flight

I had no idea about this... a good idea in my opinion!


User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7512 times:



Quoting Vasu (Reply 9):
I had no idea about this... a good idea in my opinion!

Yes, it will give the airline more time to offload the baggage (which can cause quite a delay if done at the last minute), but it doesn't deal with the more normal issue of passengers simply not realising how long it'll take them to get to the gate from the bar/restaurant/shop, the more of which you have, the more the opportunities for such incidents. Presumably the dispatchers have been enforcing the 'Gate Closed' conditions very strictly, although as implied above, denying a checked-in passenger boarding at such a late stage can result in a bigger delay than actually letting them on a few minutes late. Difficult call to make, probably making sure at least everyone is through security is about as much as can be done.

Riv'



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User currently offline1peter From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7426 times:

I have used T5 a number of times over the last few weeks and like many think it's a great building, very light and airy. A most pleasant environment to enjoy your transit through LHR if that's what your doing, great shops and eating establishments.

The one thing that does slightly concern me is the forth coming move of the remaining longhaul services from T4. The days I've either arrived or departed from T5 from what I could see the majority of stands on T5A and T5B looked to be occupied, now that's not to say that the aircraft parked on all these stands were not just resting! But are we going to be back to coaching everyone in from remote stands around T5C once the move (planned for a few days ago) completes?



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User currently offlinePetera380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7406 times:
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I read somewhere that T5 is now Britain's largest shopping Mall! Gatwick and Heathrow are so packed full of shops now that theres almost know where to watch the action outside. Haven't been to T5 yet so I don't know what the views are like.

Peter


User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7370 times:



Quoting 1peter (Reply 11):
The one thing that does slightly concern me is the forth coming move of the remaining longhaul services from T4. The days I've either arrived or departed from T5 from what I could see the majority of stands on T5A and T5B looked to be occupied, now that's not to say that the aircraft parked on all these stands were not just resting! But are we going to be back to coaching everyone in from remote stands around T5C once the move (planned for a few days ago) completes?

I'm afraid to say it is the case that once all of the planned moves to T5 are complete, whenever that may now be, there will not be enough air-bridge stands, and a certain amount of parking on remote stands with the use of buses will be inevitable. This has been known by BA for quite some time, but there's isn't a great deal they can do about it - there's no space for a T5D satellite, that's for sure!

Riv'



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User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 842 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7314 times:

Yes even with T5C more flights will require bussing to and from stands than was the case with the separate T1 and T4 operation - Hence Virgins campaign suggesting BA should stand for 'Bussing Around'


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User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2821 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7026 times:

I posted a summary here.

Main points:
  • Terminal looks great.
  • Departure lounge is hot.
  • It will probably be overcrowded once at full operations.
  • Signage is terrible.
  • View is cool.

  • User currently offline1peter From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6803 times:



    Quoting Glom (Reply 15):
    Signage is terrible.

    That is most certainly the case, if you are an oldy I could see you getting very confused. Last week I followed the signs to my gate and was sent round in circles, well that's not completely true.........but straight into a shop!!



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    User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6695 times:



    Quoting 1peter (Reply 16):
    followed the signs to my gate and was sent round in circles, well that's not completely true.........but straight into a shop!!

    ... so it works, then?!!  Smile

    The lifts to/from the rail levels drive me crazy (along with many of the passengers that I've seen using them). It's all very well having a sign saying there are no call buttons because the lifts operate automatically, but there is also no indicator as to which one will arrive next. Then they only stop in one direction, which further baffles the incidental traveller (I hate building designers when they have these 'great' ideas but fail completely to understand how things will work in practice). If you want to take the lift from departure level to arrivals, you have first to go all the way down to the rail station, then back up again.

    Inovation is great in a building such as BA's headquarters (Waterside) where most of the users are residents and will learn how things work, but in a public facility such as an airport terminal where a significant number of the users on any given day will be completely new to the building, it's necessary to make processes as easy and as familiar as possible.
    I see many changes ahead...

    I have also noticed no rubbish bins in the entire check-in area (and I couldn't find one when I was wandering through the arrivals level either, but I didn't look everywhere).

    Riv'



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    User currently offline1peter From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6666 times:



    Quoting Rivet42 (Reply 17):
    I see many changes ahead...

    I have also noticed no rubbish bins in the entire check-in area (and I couldn't find one when I was wandering through the arrivals level either, but I didn't look everywhere).

    I very much hope there are changes ahead..........as from what I've seen and read it's needs it! It'll be interesting to see what I spot that's not quite right in the morning when I'm back!!



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    User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6596 times:



    Quoting 1peter (Reply 18):
    I very much hope there are changes ahead..........as from what I've seen and read it's needs it! It'll be interesting to see what I spot that's not quite right in the morning when I'm back!!

    You will find that most stations and airports in the UK will not have many if at all any bins due to the threat of bombs being placed in them.
    Its annoying when you have rubbish but then again you can see why they would do it.
    Once your past security tho it should be alright!


    User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 879 posts, RR: 4
    Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6586 times:



    Quoting Rivet42 (Reply 17):

    I have also noticed no rubbish bins in the entire check-in area (and I couldn't find one when I was wandering through the arrivals level either, but I didn't look everywhere).

    For security reasons, bins were removed from landside areas many years ago in the other terminals. T5 is no different, so there will be no bins landside.


    User currently offlineRivet42 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 818 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6573 times:



    Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 20):
    For security reasons, bins were removed from landside areas many years ago in the other terminals. T5 is no different, so there will be no bins landside.

    Yes, of course, that's true, but I was hoping there would be another 'solution' to rubbish - at least at railway stations one will find quite easily a cleaner wandering around with a rubbish trolley. That doesn't quite fit in with the prim image of T5 though, I suppose... Given the number of airport staff on hand to guide people through the check-in area, the odd person holding a rubbish sack would be useful?

    Riv'



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    User currently offlineShamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1612 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6560 times:

    There is still some serious problems, I had a passengers this morning arrive into DUB on a BD flight, he had had a 5 hour layover on LHR incoming from a BA flight and his bag still didnt arrive until the next flight!

    User currently offlineVC10 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1412 posts, RR: 16
    Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6526 times:

    Well with some trepidation I have just completed a round trip on BA [to Jo'Burg] using T5, and I have to say that everything
    went perfectly. The aircraft departed on time with all the bags as far as I could judge at the other end. On arrival back at T5 everything worked like clockwork, with just a minimal wait for our bags.

    It is a modern building, which is not to every body's taste, however it was all very clean and bright. If I had one reservation then it was the vertical aspect of the building especially for long haul passengers as you seem to be constantly going up or down on escalators and or elevators, and I would agree the direction signage could be improved.

    However I have to wonder what it will be like when all of BA's long haul flights transfer to T5 especially on the lifts and train during a busy period

    littlevc10


    User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3682 posts, RR: 3
    Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6403 times:



    Quoting Shamrock321 (Reply 22):
    There is still some serious problems, I had a passengers this morning arrive into DUB on a BD flight, he had had a 5 hour layover on LHR incoming from a BA flight and his bag still didnt arrive until the next flight!

    Does this have anything to do with T5. The bags had to be transferred to BD's care at T1, and if the passenger had flown BA longhaul, they had probably never been near T5


    25 Tonystan : I have just operated a back to back out of T4 and I must admit that it too seems to be running blissfully, both departures ex LHR the doors were close
    26 Sketty222 : I mentioned this when I was on a tour and on one of the trials.... the answer I got, see below Lee
    27 Trekster : Another quiet day yesterday. The front of house (Landside) seemed to be ok. With no real big q's at any of the bag drops, and security being ok, just
    28 Post contains links BrusselsSouth : I connected at LHR on April 11th and 14th, flying : BRU-LHR-JFK (transfer from T5 to T4) EWR-LHR-BRU (transfer from T4 to T5) Terminal 5 was working f
    29 AIR MALTA : Just read your trip report... It's great. Good job! I am also flying to New York via LHR (VIE-LHR-JFK-LHR-VIE). Due to the delay of the terminal chan
    30 Sketty222 : Im a great multi-tasker, honest!
    31 KennyK : The press have dropped T5 now there is no more doom and gloom, hopefully Flight will follow up shortly with an article on what really happened, how it
    32 Vasu : Thanks... enjoyed reading it!
    33 Rivet42 : BBC News 24 have been broadcasting live the Transport Select Committee review into the T5 opening, and it has been fascinating viewing/listening! The
    34 Post contains links Theginge : http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Vi...oPlayer.aspx?meetingId=1716&rel=ok If anyone can get it to work!!
    35 Trekster : Just to keep you updated. Another good day in 5 today. No problems that I could tell from my area. Was a little warm and the sunset was amazing with a
    36 Post contains links LHR27C : This thread on FlyerTalk is worth a look: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=821320 Basically, stats for Wednesday: virtually half the fl
    37 Sketty222 : I dont believe you, your lying, you must be. BA always have delays But really, this is good news for BA because to be honest You sad sad man! I heard
    38 BrusselsSouth : Don't worry, it was just a nightmare. In reality, why would you have to pass through customs when connecting ? Regards BrusselsSouth
    39 AIR MALTA : Well nightmares are rarely logical... Glad to see T5 running smoothly...
    40 Trekster : Have seen info like this all week when looking at the departure screens at my desk. On breaks I go outside by Zone A and can see the activity on the
    41 LHR27C : I think the short haul cabin and flight crew reporting moving to T5 recently - within the last week or so - has helped a lot as well - less likelihood
    42 Commavia : How pathetic. Colin Matthews of BAA comes off looking like a total moron - his list of problems with T5 basically focused on lifts and toilets, and c
    43 Rivet42 : Are they still going to be transported by bus to/from their allocated aircraft...? T5 is such a good opportunity to get rid of this arcane practice!
    44 Nickllhill : After being on a few of the trials I had a chance to use T5 for the first time on Friday for an *actuall* flight I did notice it was very warm! I was
    45 TimRees : I presume you mean Flight International? They haven't mentioned Terminal 5 at all in any issue since it opened. On the week it opened it didn't even
    46 GDB : To be fair to Colin Matthews, he only started at BAA at the of March, right into the eye of the storm. (Having said that, my impressions of him are f
    47 OA260 : The first phase of the move of additional flights has been announced for June.
    48 BAStew : yup. Abuja, Bangalore, Beijing, Cairo, Cape Town, Lagos, NY JFK and Phoenix move over on June 5th.
    49 Eyeno1 : Happy to see all the positive reviews. I'm flying out of YYZ tomorrow night on BA's "sleeper flight". Arrive at LHR T4 and then have to make my way to
    50 OA260 : I have only done the transfer from T1 to T5 and I took the Paddington Express and it was very quick and easy.
    51 Trekster : Just done the morning shift, and again things seemed to be going OK front of house, there was a Q at the South Security point at one point, but it was
    52 Post contains links Breiz : Just for the fun reading: http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2003/mar/09/observerescapesection4 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7349037.stm
    53 Trekster : Another good day today, flights were going out on time, and no planned canx. No bag delays that I could see or heard about. Could not see any problems
    54 Bongodog1964 : " target=_blank>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/m...7.stm Good story, but nothing to do with T5. As the articles state it will be another 70 days
    55 APYu : Once an insurance company has paid out though on lost luggage claims the baggage is officially theirs so they could sell the bags at these auctions t
    56 Bongodog1964 : The only way a passengers insurance company could claim the bag and sell it, was if it was identifiable. If its identifiable the airline woudl have a
    57 APYu : I guess it depends on how long it takes to identify the bag. If a bag takes ages to be identified and the passengers policy has already paid out then
    58 Rivet42 : Willie Walsh mad an interesting point at the Commons hearing last week that the bags were never technically 'lost', as BA knew exactly where they were
    59 Trekster : On my short time landside today the terminal looked to be running ok, and quickly checked the screens to see that there were no sched canx or delays.
    60 Trekster : Well, back down in London again after a very good flight on a A321 (my first one) My experience of T5 arrivals was good (stand guidance took a few min
    61 Trekster : Seems im the only one posting in this thread (Mods im not trying to keep it on the front page, just trying to be helpful letting people know how the t
    62 Trekster : Lets just say its been an interesting day. The tyre burst this morning of course caused a few flights to be canx (as it did a few weeks ago with anoth
    63 PW100 : Hi Trekster, Thanks foor keeping this thread alive, and above all for the good information provided. It never stops to amaze me that with bad news peo
    64 Vasu : PW100, Its so nice to see such a positive post, thank you! I am also interested in the spotting situation... hopefully someone can answer your questio
    65 Trekster : Lets just say I take my last break in the location your talking about and have not been turned away as yet. (Far corner only where it is fenced) There
    66 Trekster : Well another busy day at T5 this morning. One thing I would advise anyone flying thru there, make sure your through the security checkpoint outside of
    67 Aisak : Just for curiosity... Now T5 only has the 747 for longhaul and the new destinations coming on June 5 are also 747-only... how are these services oper
    68 Trekster : So far I have only seen the euro and domestic fleet at T5A. (We also have 777's by the way, not just 74's) At T5B there have been a few Euro departur
    69 BCA2005 : BA173 (JFK) and BA83 (ABV) are both operated by Boeing 777-200ER. Which of the current destinations from T5 are operated by the 772?
    70 LHR27C : None - at the moment T5 is only hosting the ex-T1 longhaul destinations, which are exclusively 744.
    71 1peter : From what I can see you are going to have a busy day both tomorrow and also Monday..............good luck!!
    72 Trekster : Was again a busy day today (thanks 1peter, you jinxed it ) Front of house there were alot of people checking in for flights and it seemed a smooth pro
    73 B747forever : Just a quick question to all of you. In the 21st august I will head for LAX from ARN with BA. The flight from ARN will arrive around 09:05, and the LA
    74 Trekster : B747, It is very tight, but is within the MCT (Min connect time) as its avail to book on ba.com so is ok.
    75 B747forever : Okay, hopefully I will make it!!!
    76 Post contains images GCT64 : Used T5 for the first time last Thursday (747 from T5b to LAX) - amazed how slick and smooth it was. Of course, the rest of the LHR experience was ma
    77 Khaleej777 : Hi Dan. Reckon you thought I was an irate passenger jumping the queue to complain or something! It was great to meet you and hope your shift went wel
    78 Trekster : Well, 3 other people had just done the same thing haha. Glad ya had a good trip (And taking you up on that pint in oxford, do need to go back there)
    79 1peter : Popped in an hour or so back to check in for my flight tomorrow and seemed very calm after what I understand was a busy day.........!
    80 Group51 : St. Pancras International felt bigger to me. But they are both very nice and airy.
    81 1peter : Came through this morning and it was pretty busy........! Turned up a little late and managed to get whisked to the front of the security conformance
    82 Elite : HKG had its fair share of problems when it first started, but everyone quickly forgot about them, so hopefully this will be the same. But, this is BA
    83 APYu : Yes they move in June 5th (JFK though not EWR)
    84 Trekster : Again a good day today. No major problems, a few delays here and there but not major (mainly due to LIB's (Late inbounds) No sched canx's. Front of ho
    85 1peter : It was my 4th time out of T5 and as ever very pleasant. Back first thing Saturday morning!!
    86 AIR MALTA : I am flying VIE-LHR-JFK tomorrow, so I am thrilled about using T5 and again T4... I have 4 hours in LHR so it shouldn't be a problem. And as I am goin
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