YULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2249 posts, RR: 5 Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 12756 times:
I was wondering which airport in the US would have the most widebody movements, including cargo flights? To some people, widebodies in the US are kind of an endangered species, so numbers may be interesting to hear about...
On top of my mind are:
ORD (huge UA and AA intl hub)
LAX (THE gateway for most foreign carriers)
ANC (cargo, cargo, cargo and more cargo)
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 9016 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12718 times:
ATL is a strong possibility.
DL has 20+ 767s dedicated to domestic flying and those are all based out of ATL
DL's international departures
FedEx and UPS each send in multiple widebodies
World is all DC-10/MD-11 and 747 now
Good number of cargo carriers as well.
There is absolutely no possibility of it being ATL. I would estimate that it has about 15% of the widebody flights that JFK or LAX have.
There is no question about it, LAX and JFK are the two airports in the US with the most widebodies. Simply due to the huge volume of ex-EU flights I would suspect that JFK is ahead - this volume doesn't exist on trans-pacific routes.
AgentXE1225 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12619 times:
If talking about cargo only, maybe MEM? FedEx world headquarters here. Only narrowbodies they have are 727's and a few turboprobs. Holiday time comes and they contract w/Kalitta who has 5-7 74's on the ground at any given time. Seen 74's and 76's at UPS on regular basis, and last summer there were 2 4-engine Antonovs AND the 6-engine beast! Oh yeah. MEM theory goes in crapper if MD 10's & 11's aren't considered widebody. Oh yeah. At least 7 C-5's here any given time, so add in military cargo....
FX around 4-7 daily flights with MD-11/DC10s around the same amount with the A310/A300
UPS 2x 763
DHL 1x DC-8 1x 767
Airborne 1x 767
The rest are either daily or multiple times weekly.
JAL Cargo 742
LH Cargo MD11
CX Cargo 744
Eva Air Cargo daily with MD11 or 744F
Martinare Cargo MD11
Northwest Cargo 742
Polar Air almost daily 742/744
SQ Cargo daily 744
Southern Air daily 747
Atlas 747 almost daily
ATL was used as the hub for DL because it was in the middle of the US (population wise), not because it was the best location for long haul flights. ATL has a lot of flights yes, but a huge majority are domestic which are limited up to 757s, a few 767s, and the occasional 777. ATL just does not have a lot of widebody movements.
Planespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3547 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 11891 times:
Quoting DesertJets (Reply 13): If we are talking sheer numbers, and not just proportion of ops... then LAX, MEM, and JFK are likely in the top 5.
I totally forgot about MEM - but that'd be a good guess, since FedEx alone flies more than 200 widebodies ... I know they're not all in and out of MEM every night, but at least 50 percent probably are ... anyone have a MEM count?
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 7014 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 11848 times:
Also, for those mentioning ATL, only the gates in Concourses T, A, E, and a small number of gates (like 3 or 4) in Concourse B support 767s. Larger aircraft such as the 777, A330/A340, 747, 787, and A350 can only use the gates in Concourse E (and the upcoming Concourse F). None of the gates are large enough for the A380, and there are no plans to include any A380-sized gates in Concourse F.
The Pink Delta 767-400ER - The most beautiful aircraft in the sky
On a good day ANC sees 8000 metric tons of freight, which should translate into 100-120 wide-body departures. JFK likely sees almost double that wide-body traffic and LAX and MIA likely see more than ANC too. So does MEM.
JFK, MEM, LAX, MIA, ANC, ORD, SFO.
BTW I wonder if ANC airport suffers from some inferiority complex. It is the only large airport that tacks transit freight to its volume figures, so that they look bigger of course.
7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 789 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11088 times:
I am glad to see someone is providing facts to a legitimate question.
I chose not to comment as I didn't know.
But as usual plenty of speculation.
This is what is bring this site down - wasn't like this 10 years ago.... definately not going to reup my membership.
Wish I could get a refund.
N5716B From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11088 times:
This is some nice SWAGgery, but if you really want the dirt, you might want to load up and point your browser at http://www.flightaware.com
A quick tootle over there shows ATL has four departing and three arriving widebody aircraft between 18:19 and 18:58 EDT today. They have history. They even let you order history back to umpty days (for a small nominal fee). Light on advertizing. I swear by it, personally, especially when I see an odd aircraft type enroute to ATL and want to know the what/who/when/where of it.
And no, they don't pay me. I'm just a satisfied customer.
But back to the random speculation:
MEM is a good call strictly from the FedEx standpoint. I believe NWA also has a bit of a hub going on there (or at least they did back in 1989, when I last flew NWA).
JFK has the transoceanic traffic all but wrapped up (much to the annoyance of BOS). LAX likely has the transpacific traffic wrapped up as well (much to the annoyance of SFO). MIA should at least get some consideration due to the Latin American traffic, though I'm not sure just how much of that is widebody (can SEQU even handle widebody traffic?)