Jubilee777 From Singapore, joined May 1999, 528 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1237 times:
Check out the words in bold:
SINGAPORE Airlines (SIA) will begin flights to Chicago via Amsterdam in August, making the 'windy city' SIA's fourth US destination.
The thrice-weekly service will use Boeing 777-200 extended range (ER) aircraft, which will number among SIA's fleet from July, SIA said in response to queries.
The national carrier already flies to Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York.
SIA also said that its order of 20 777-200s from Boeing earlier this week, consisting of 10 firm orders and 10 options, will not include the 'super-long range version' that can fly non-stop between Singapore and the US.
Its vice-president for public affairs, Mr Rick Clements, said the airline has the flexibility to use the 10 options for 777-200s, 777-200ER and 777-300 airplanes.
But it will not order the super-long range aircraft which is powered by a different engine and 'does not feature in our plans'.
The latest order is expected to replace SIA's fleet of Airbus A310 airplanes.
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13722 posts, RR: 20 Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1190 times:
Right the words in bold that J777 quoted don't make sense so I'm gonna ignore them for now. Please elaborate
Now: I went to Boeings 777LR website and it was very impressive and on paper the 777LR is better in pratically everyway than the 345. Therefore, I dunno, SIA could just cancel the 345s and go with the 777LRs. Or they could use the 345s for a few years and then dump em.
It depends. Cheong seems to have gone haywire this week.
Jubilee777 From Singapore, joined May 1999, 528 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1170 times:
The bold letters meant that SIA is not interested in acquiring the longer range B777LRs. Although they belong in the B777 family and may have cost savings, but the current engine choice is the GE engines as a exclusive deal with Boeing.
Tedski will be glad to tell you all about GE engines.
The SQ A340-500 will be currently powered by RR Trent engines which will have commonality with the rest of the engines on SQ's 777 fleet.
If SIA do order the 777LR, it means that they will have another engine type to deal with......more training for SIAEC people and dedicated facilities, or simply pass on the job to current GE90 operators with 777, which most likely maybe China Southern Airlines maintainence unit.
Furthermore, SIA already have A340 simulators at it training facilities, which will have cockpit commonality with it's current A343 fleet. So it makes more sense to keep their orders for the A345, with RR engines than 777LRs with GE engines.
Stephen007 From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 154 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1164 times:
even if the A345s are surpassed by B777 variants (which i find SIA extremely biased towards), they can always go to SALE and leased out to other operators like CX and Virgin or Ansett (which is keen on using ex SQ A340 service into the US)
CX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4434 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1132 times:
First off, the 777-200LR in its current offering did not go head to head with the A340-500. It was the 777-200X that went head to head with the A340-500 and lost. On paper the 777-200LR is a superior machine that can fly the same routes with more people with better efficency & shorter flight time.
If the A340-500 is a success and can operate SIN-LAX year round, then you might see SIA give the 777-200LR a shot seeing that it can do the same but better. Engine commonality is really made to much of.
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
TEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1077 times:
NO WAY would SIA order the GE90 777-200LR, they will order it only if it has the lightweight RR Trent 800 series available like on their current 777s. Unless Boeing offers a 777-400 with RR engines or P&W they will stick with the A340-500.
King767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1029 times:
Again, my point. What is more important, having aircraft commonality, or having engine commonality? Come on! Lets use our heads here, aircraft commonality outweighs engine commonality! Everyone who disagrees, think long and hard, and then take a look and see how many airlines are using same or similar aircraft with different engines. A real good example is DLs 767s.