Flynorth From Sweden, joined Mar 2008, 127 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2587 times:
This is a question that I first tried to post in the thread about fees for carry-on baggage, but no one seem to answer so I´ll make a new try here.
As stated in that other thread about carry-on bags and also and by many airlines (specially LCC carriers) most carriers seem to prefer as much baggage in the cabin before placing it in the belly as a possible way to save costs (less ground handling). Extra fees for checked in bags is one way to try to control this. For airlines like Ryanair this is important as both a way to keep down the costs at the airport and shorten down time on the ground.
I belive these LCC´s in the future are aiming for no checked in baggage at all for above states purposes. If and when we will see this the cargo/baggage space in those airplanes will be dead area, producing no value to those kind of airlines (for what I know LCC´s does not carry any cargo).
Is it possible that we will see a new type of plane designed for these kind of needs? Maybe bigger space in the cabin and no underneath baggage/cargo space.
I think there are enough airlines out there what would like to have such a plane, to make it interesting for the plane makers to look into it.
So, do you think this could be possible in the future (maybe along with replacements of the 737 and the 320-models). What would this plane look like, which airlines would be interested?
It sure would make plane makers to think out of the box.
Bramble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2481 times:
While I can see the logic in your theory I can't see a manufacturer designing an aircraft like this for the needs of LCCs. These airlines want low cost. And perhaps being asked to sing up to a design may place them under financial commitment. I would also assume that the airlines who would like to utilise ant additional space on an aircraft would be the high service level (VS.EK.EY,SQ etc.) Ryanair and the likes would just try for a twin deck 737 to get more seats!
Flynorth From Sweden, joined Mar 2008, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2432 times:
Quoting Bramble (Reply 1): While I can see the logic in your theory I can't see a manufacturer designing an aircraft like this for the needs of LCCs. These airlines want low cost. And perhaps being asked to sing up to a design may place them under financial commitment.
Well look at it from this perspective then. FR walks in at Boeing and Airbus office and says "we are about to replace a big chunk of our fleet plus we need some fore future growth, what can you do for us?". FR have 120 planes now according to their homepage. While I see the argument of keep away from financial commitment as valid we must not forget that an airplane in itself is a big financial commitment. 120 737´s does not come for free. Airlines are used to big financial commitments in the first place and if the economics would be the right, why not?
We also have the 787-3 that (from my understanding) is a product made completely from the desire of the Japanese carriers.
So if not a completely new airplane design, how will the needs of LCCs impact future airplane design?