LH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1736 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 17860 times:
What is the point of flying a 744 on short hops to Europe? Is the plane used on routes with high loads or is the plane flying around half empty, i know that AT have had several financial problems with the increasing oil prices. If the plane is used for VIP flights, do the plane still have those old worn out interiors, or have they been replaced?
Soups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 17773 times:
i saw their 747 in CDG about 5-6years back was full white livery with just the writing in arabic on one side. what a beast!
There is a huge morrocan population in France, Also connections from african cities to France are popular with AT, from COO, LFW. ABJ,OUA. NIM,
Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
Goldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1923 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17505 times:
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 3): What is the point of flying a 744 on short hops to Europe? Is the plane used on routes with high loads or is the plane flying around half empty
Quoting Soups (Reply 4): There is a huge morrocan population in France, Also connections from african cities to France are popular with AT, from COO, LFW. ABJ,OUA. NIM,
Yes, France has a large Morrocan population but a lot of them cannot afford to fly their family home, so they are driving through France and Spain and take a ferry there to Morroco. The other good reason to use a 747 from ORY or CDG is the huge number of French people who go to Morroco for vacation (it's one of the most popular destination for French). You have to realize that some days, there could be 15+ flights a day between PAR and RAK, so the use of a 747 during peak-season can be fully justified sometimes.
FlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7476 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 17363 times:
This R.A.M B744 has a funny story.
It was initially an Air France aircraft, F-GITG.
It was supposed to be delivered to AF in January 1993, but AF was in deep trouble at that time, almost bankrupt, didn't need it, so the plane was never taken up and finally went from the Boeing factory straight to storage at Marana.
AF found an agreement with Royal Air Maroc who finally took delivery of this bird in October 1993.
CN-RGA is a regular visitor at ORY & CDG during the high summer season. It is also seen regularly at AMS and BRU.
Actually, I believe it is more often used to Europe flights rather than Long Haul, except when it is used for Official trips the King M.VI.
AH332 From Algeria, joined Mar 2007, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 17347 times:
Man...this brings back memories! I flew YUL-JFK-CMN 3 times with this bird on my way to Algeria. I was kind of disheartened when i found out that RAM were putting the 763 on this route instead, but that's life!
Bledi Heya Al Djazaeer! // Next Flights: AB MIA-DUS-ORY, AF ORY-MRS-ALG
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 28660 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17260 times:
Quoting AirAmericaC46 (Reply 12): AT 744 used to fly CMN-JFK-YUL. I took a flight JFK-YUL in 2000 RT $200------flight almost empty.
I knew I wasn't mad LOL.... I seem to remember seeing it in the computer system years ago and for some reason it was such a weird route that it stuck in my mind. Glad you answered it. What a cool flight to have gone on.
Laxcdg From France, joined Apr 2008, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 18 hours ago) and read 13352 times:
FlySSC: The AT 744 was pretty much a "gift"from the french government,due to be delivered to AF went to AT ...AF was in deep trouble yes but at that time under a huge help financially from the governement and it wouldnt have matter to AF to take delivery of this aircraft.There was some deep political involments (read possible bribes) behind that aircraft..
: RAM has had three 747, a 200B, an SP and the 744. I would think other then its use as the VIP transport for the king, they would be better to lease it
: How many 744 pilots do AT have? Will they might receive more 744s from AF when they start phasing them out from their fleet?
: I doubt. They don't really need such a big aircraft for their operations ... 1 B744 is already too much ... more is simply needless