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User currently offlineRobert74 From Austria, joined Oct 2004, 51 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8976 times:

On my recent flight to London with FR I took, as I do often times, a picture of the cabin. I also took one of the FA during the safety demonstration. She saw me and said no no. Afterwards she came on to me and made me delete the picture in front of her. I was so surprised that I did it, after she explained that it was for security reasons. Later I regretted that I gave in to such a stupid explanation, but then it wouldn't have mattered- if she doesn't want her picutre to be taken that's her right or at least I would respect that.
But I ask myself- why? Is it just because she fears her image goes onto the internet or something or is there maybe indeed a (FR-specific?) rule? BTW tihs is the second time, only the first time (don't remember if it was FR) the FA didn't come to me afterwards).

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User currently offlineACFA From Canada, joined Feb 2007, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8947 times:

If someone doesn't want their picture taken then they have that right, no explaination is required.

User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8922 times:
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Quoting ACFA (Reply 1):

Agreed, but I guess the explanation about security reason is a bit weird... I don't see a security problem here, but it has been discussed a lot in this forum if it is allowed or not to take pictures of the cabin. I don't see a problem there. What's so dangerous about some seats? Big grin

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User currently offlineRobert74 From Austria, joined Oct 2004, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8917 times:



Quoting ACFA (Reply 1):
If someone doesn't want their picture taken then they have that right, no explaination is required.

Ah yes, that's what I said too, didn't I? That's not the point.


User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8806 times:

Security reasons -

Let's deviate from reality a moment and imagine I, a flight attendant, am stunningly handsome.
You take my photo, put it on the Internet, and some deviant with a uniform fetish sees me, decides I'm his type. From your photo, he knows what aircraft type and airline I work for, waits at my home base airport, and grabs me as I walk to my car after a late flight. Unlikely scenario? Yes, very. Impossible scenario? Sadly, not.

This is quite possibly what the flight attendant was referring to by mentioning security reasons. Regardless, as others have posted, she owes you no explanation.



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User currently offlineACFA From Canada, joined Feb 2007, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8753 times:



Quoting Robert74 (Reply 3):
Ah yes, that's what I said too, didn't I? That's not the point.

Really?

Quoting Robert74 (Thread starter):
But I ask myself- why? Is it just because she fears her image goes onto the internet or something or is there maybe indeed a (FR-specific?) rule?



User currently offlineRobert74 From Austria, joined Oct 2004, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8727 times:

Yes, I did say I respected her wish and if she gave me NO explanation then so be it, but given her weird pretext of security I ask you guys here what it could be.

The see her-fall in love- stalker theory is too long a shot in my opinion.


User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8727 times:

After 9/11 this sounds like the common answer from uniform wearing people - and I may imagine that makes the same sense for airliners employees of any kind. You could target them for terrorism attack. That's the reason. Not going too far, to show pictures to someone for chasing her or using her id for terrorism purpouses within the airline. I know it may sounds weird but I see it can has a sense. IMHO. fullstop.

User currently offlineRobert74 From Austria, joined Oct 2004, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8705 times:



Quoting Max777geek (Reply 7):
After 9/11 this sounds like the common answer from uniform wearing people

That is so true. And enough to make passengers shut up to almost anything. I bet they get this in their training- if someone asks you something you don't know or don't want to talk about, just say it's for security reasons.


User currently offlineCaaardiff From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8396 times:

If you were at a supermarket and took a photo of the check-out girl, it would be perceived as strange.
What makes a member of cabin a photographic oppurtunity?
At the end of the day they are at work doing their job. They are not models, they are not there to be stared at, the list goes on.
There are security implications as stated above. This day in age, anything is possible, anything that might be unlikely can happen, you see it in the news day in day out.

Also considering the publicity Ryanair gets sometimes. How does this crew member know that she wont be appearing on the latest episode of watchdog?? (UK TV program) The program may be reporting another Ryanair issue, but will use whatever footage/photography they can mix in. This is the media!

In my view its an invasion of privacy. At least ask the member of cabin crew if they would like their photo taken, or even if photo's can be taken of the cabin at all and people should respect that decision.
Not only is it the above, its common courtesy.


User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 803 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8373 times:

The same things is if somebody came to your work and took a picture of you working.Would you not be bothered by it??
If you want a picture of the crew, just ask them.Most of the times they dont have anything against it.



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User currently offlineGT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1780 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8210 times:



Quoting TG992 (Reply 4):

Absoultely. Although i agree, the security "reason" is often a generic explanation, it doesn't always mean airline security. The crew member could well have meant her own personal security. I would not have people taking a photo of me without permission, what makes you think that you had the right? Furthermore, taking photographs during the demo would result in me telling you to switch it off. As crew I often turn a blind eye to those who like to take photographs during take off and landing etc but taking a photograph of me is where I draw the line. Perhaps if you had explained your intentions prior then maybe you would have got your photograph aswell as avoiding drawing embarrassing attention to yourself.



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User currently offlineBramble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8127 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 2):
What's so dangerous about some seats?

he didn't take pics of seats. It was the crew photo that was disallowed. I don't want anyone taking my photo while I work. I don't mind pax taking pics of the cabin or out the windows but not the crew. Also under Irish law you cannot use/publish someones image without their permission. And to be honest security is an easier answer than explaining legal process.

In terms of personal security even before Sep 11 our female crew were given advice on personal security while travelling in uniform. Cabin crew have always attracted attention from the more unhinged members of the public.


User currently offlineBoeing727flyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8109 times:

Wonder if she thought her picture was going to end up on FBO hotties.com  cheeky 


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User currently offlineTonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8088 times:

At the end of the day (delightful pun on the way) it is just "plane" RUDE to photograph someone without asking their permission first regardless of who or what they are. OK, London has its beefeaters who you cannot ask as they will not reply but they sort of expect photos to be taken of them for pictures, but cabin crew can reply and allow or decline your request.

I hate it when people take pictures of me without asking. A few weeks ago I had a passenger take pictures of me whilst I was in the aisle doing a bar round, I didnt bother saying anything but it would have been nice to have been asked or at least warned so I could make sure my best side was showing incase they wind up in some tourists blog page!



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User currently offlineDitzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 711 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8001 times:

Perhaps the FA was looking at it in terms of she was performing her duties - hence it is a security risk to the company. If she was doing the safety demo then I believe it falls under that context.

At my airline we allow people to take photos of the cabin. However a customer once asked if he could take pictures of the emergency equipment stowages. We of course said 'no'. I believe there exists a distinct line.

Perhaps the FA felt that taking photos of the safety demonstration crossed that line. The photo would show where she was standing in the cabin. She would have been standing at a location decided by her work position onboard in her operations manual and hence that is proprietary information - just like emergency equipment locations, quantities and types.

You can of course note where she was standing just by observing the safety demo. However photos are a record of the event and could be compiled by a group planning something and they could monitor variances over time. If I saw someone writing notes about where I stood I would be a bit suspicious, too. While I know that where crew stand for the demo would really not be that important in terms of a group planning something I believe, as I said already, that the line is crossed.

Most crew wouldn't think twice about posing for a shot with a customer or as a group. But when we a performing a duty as prescribed in our operation manual - there is a difference.


User currently offlineSJC-Alien From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8004 times:

This happened to me while videotaping the boarding of AS 531 from KSJC-KSEA in March 2008 seat 26A on a -900---I posted the video on my video google page (search AS 531 should find it)- can't here for "fear" it'll get deleted.....referring another link/site in A.net forums, will get the thread deleted real fast...I found that out last month.

I turned the video cam off as requested by the AS female FA-for 'fear" of being arrested if I did not comply. After we landed in KSEA -I waited for everybody to leave the jet- I asked the FA if there was a "new policy" on Alaska Airlines that doesn't allow videotaping - and that there was nothing in the In-Flight magazine that she referred us too, during the flight departure instructions. She stated as far as "she" was concerned, nobody should be videotaping at all. I again asked her, "then there is no policy against videotaping...you just don't want me videotaping...correct"? She said she dosn't see any reason why people would would need to videotape - and I immediately challenged her about my Rights of filming-and if there is a ban against videotaping, then it better be in the In-Flight magazine the flight crew refer's us to for instructions, while on taxi to take off. She reiterated the 'she didn't know who I was" and was concerned I was videotaping.....I asked her to talk to the Captain with me, because she then became hesitant knowing she was giving me BS.....I knew it...and we went to the Captain and i asked him if there is any policy against videotaping before take-off - or after the 10,000agl chimes...this guy was quick -because I think he picked up 'real fast' on what was going on and said to me' " Just ask the Lead FA next time for permission...it shouldn't be a problem..." being that I had people waiting for me at KSEA and not to blow the day arguing against airline no-minds - I left with their names( writing down names has a very good effect on them....) .

Now,,during my talk with the 2 female FA's in the back - I asked her..." Why are we fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan...? what have we been told by the officialdom of the USA......we are fighting there to protect out rights, correct? she agreed, so I asked her, "then why are we there fighting for our rights, if I cannot videotape a normal boarding for public interest to post on any website, or for my collection......but, that you deem nobody should be doing...?" " How do you determine my Rights.." I asked her,,,that is when we decided to ask the Captain the 'Rule'.

So, on my way back to KSJC, I boarded my AS -900 flight back to KSJC - I Asked the captain permission, he could have cared less, he said, go ask the lead flight attendant - I had seat 26A again, one of the 1st to board,,and I found her in the back, I told her the Captain said to ask you if I can videotape the boarding and out the window until told not to do so - and wait for the chimes......she looked at me and said...." I don't care..." and walked away.

So the point being - I will not give up my Rights to uninformed people. I will fight tooth and nail to keep my Rights, and if I ever get arrested or detained for filming when it is legal - I will contact an Attorney and activate a Class action lawsuit, for Billions of dollars, against any airline and employee, and any law enforcement agency for illegal detainment or arrest. Both flights on AS referred us to the pages in the In-flight magazine for instructions on electronic devices. Inside those pages, there is NOTHING about not photographing nor videotaping any flight crew member. This is a juicy lawsuit waiting to happen - because the policy is not clear. Too bad if the FA's get there pictures taken in the cabin. Quit then. If you don't like it, go elsewhere. The reason being, is it is not illegal...! The Airline's have better state it up front and make it an announcement at the TICKET counter - because then it will be official- that they have taken our rights away - but until then, it is not illegal. Show me the policy - any airline in the USA where it is illegal to picture or videotape in-cabin employees on a jet. I obeyed all the other in-cabin request about electronic gear.

Since I was allowed to videotape on the way back - getting good night time footage on the down-leg to KSJC - I felt like i had won - and I obey all cabin instructions as required. You can view my videos on video google. I can't post the link or this will be deleted.


User currently offlineSJC-Alien From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7912 times:

Apparently you've never lived in the United States and didn't grow up in a Country were things are allowed and free to 'roam about the Country' without being subject to people who want us to live by their rules.........

Before September 11th terror attacks, I had no problem videotaping and photographing airliners, in-cabin etc - now, because of the idiots of the world, I am losing my Rights. The Flight crews are in public, and in the USA, there are no laws against photographing people in public. If the Airline has a problem with that about the photos of their aircrews - then they should post it, create legislature against it- so I can make a decision, that I will never fly that airline if that is the case. In the meantime - Tonystan - I have every right to take their photo. Apparently you don't understand that concept.

I will report you to the A.net screeners for the comments posted above.


User currently offlineNws2002 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 883 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7811 times:



Quoting SJC-Alien (Reply 16):

WOW! As a FA that kinda weirds me out a little. I can sense why the FA was uncomfortable, and why she reacted the way she did.

While onboard an airliner you are on private property, and therefore have no right to film or take pictures. If someone was filming the boarding process I would ask them to stop too. It can see how it would make other passengers uncomfortable, and if you started arguing with me about it I would have you taken off the flight.

I agree with Caaardiff, no one goes to the grocery store and films the cashiers, and if they did I'm sure they would be told to stop. Why should FA's be any different? I don't want some random person to have my picture, I get enough "offers" as it is.


User currently offlineTonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7762 times:

Quoting SJC-Alien" class=quote target=_blank>SJC-Alien (Reply 18):
I will report you to the A.net screeners for the comments posted above.

And please do if you are that insulted but clearly you are contradicting yourself as you are not allowing me have the "freedom" of self expression and to have my own opinion!

I am Irish, grew up in Ireland and am all too aware of my freedoms thank you very much! However I have found the USA to be one of the most restricted and closed societies I have ever had the misfortune of visiting (and I have lived in Qatar, visited Saudi, Iraq, Afghanistan, China, Zimbabwe to name but a few of the worst offenders). Sadly I fear you are so brainwashed you are unable to see that.

But please, by all means report me. As that is what Americans (Sorry, I know I am sounding like I am generalising...I am just adopting a common stereotype many of us Europeans have adopted...no disrespect intended to other USA citizens, just to those with air between their ears) like to do...oppress anyone who disagrees with them! You are doing no favours for your countrymen or your argument SJC!

[Edited 2008-05-06 21:14:23]

[Edited 2008-05-06 21:20:07]


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User currently offlineAnalog From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7710 times:

I'm surprised FR doesn't charge a fee for each photo taken. Say 100 Euros, or 200 Euros if purchased at the airport.

Quoting Robert74 (Thread starter):
Afterwards she came on to me and made me delete the picture in front of her. I was so surprised that I did it, after she explained that it was for security reasons.

She should have told the truth and said that it was for [personal] insecurity reasons. Not that it's an illegitimate reason (I'd feel the same way about people taking pictures of me), but "security" is complete BS.

Quoting Tonystan (Reply 14):
it is just "plane" RUDE to photograph someone without asking their permission first regardless of who or what they are.

Lots of things that are legal are rude. A world where rude behavior is banned would make for a scary sci-fi movie (think of the Simpsons Halloween episode where Flanders is in charge).


User currently offlineBramble From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7593 times:



Quoting SJC-Alien" class=quote target=_blank>SJC-Alien (Reply 17):
In the meantime - Tonystan - I have every right to take their photo. Apparently you don't understand that concept.

I will report you to the A.net screeners for the comments posted above.

Tonystan does understand the concept and stated that he does not like it. And he did say he was annoyed but didn't bother to reprimand the pax who did it.

SJC-Alien: Was it that important to you to video the boarding that you are bringing up the Bill of Rights and freedom comments? What about plain old fashioned politeness to others? Strange that in the US you can get court injunctions and barring orders from 'stalkers' yet you insist you should have the right to take images and recording of people in uniform who you do not know. Somehow I don't thing the US military would like it if I demanded "my right" to record outside an Army/Navy/Marine/Air Force base.

What some people on this forum don't quite comprehend is that laws and rules vary from country to country. Maybe the OP was breaking published rules on that particular airline. As you said AS had no published rules to stop you videotaping. My airline does have rules on this and guidelines for crew to handle it.




And by travelling on the airline you have agreed to the 'small print'
(called by laws in UK and Ireland) that you must comply with all instructions by airline employees.

Quoting Nws2002 (Reply 18):
I don't want some random person to have my picture, I get enough "offers" as it is.

Lucky you, I haven't got any in several years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Must be getting old and wrinkly!


User currently offlineGlobeex From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 742 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7444 times:



Quoting TG992 (Reply 4):
Let's deviate from reality a moment and imagine I, a flight attendant, am stunningly handsome.

Well, we are talking about FR her, right?  duck 

Quoting TG992 (Reply 4):
From your photo, he knows what aircraft type and airline I work for,

Well, concering FR that would be as hard as to find out on which aircrafttype a WN F/A is working.
Sorry, I got your point, just having another run on FR.

GlobeEx



As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks.
User currently offlineB6MoneyGuyJFK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7005 times:



Quoting TG992 (Reply 4):
Let's deviate from reality a moment and imagine I, a flight attendant, am stunningly handsome.
You take my photo, put it on the Internet, and some deviant with a uniform fetish sees me, decides I'm his type. From your photo, he knows what aircraft type and airline I work for, waits at my home base airport, and grabs me as I walk to my car after a late flight. Unlikely scenario? Yes, very. Impossible scenario? Sadly, not.

Wasn't that on an episode of Mile High?  Smile

My $0.02: Video taping a take off or landing thru the window is a bit different than taping a F/A during a safety demo.

Quoting Caaardiff (Reply 9):
If you were at a supermarket and took a photo of the check-out girl, it would be perceived as strange.

I have worked at supermarkets and I can attest that no one ever gets filmed.



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User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6992 times:

If you want pics of the cabin crew then you have to ask, and explain what its for. But I do think that airlines need to publish guidelines about what is acceptable and make sure their crews know the rules.

Quoting Caaardiff (Reply 9):
If you were at a supermarket and took a photo of the check-out girl, it would be perceived as strange.
What makes a member of cabin a photographic oppurtunity?
At the end of the day they are at work doing their job. They are not models, they are not there to be stared at, the list goes on.

One of the things you have to remember is that flying is not always routine for the passengers. They may be filming or photographing for their holiday or because its an important trip for them. Or that they're an aviation nut! Either way while for the cabin crew its a job they need to remember that it isn't for the passengers


25 OHLHD : I always ask before I take pics in the cabin OR I do it without anyone noticing. However in a civilised world one can ask the other one and if the oth
26 Dazed767 : AA states in their magazine that no video/photography is allowed. I remember reading a story on here as well someone getting kicked off for taking a p
27 Gosimeon : If somebody took a picture of me as I worked I would be freaked too. She had a right to ask you delete it.
28 GT4EZY : In this instance it doesn't matter whether the airline has published rules or not. It is down to the crew member not the airline to decide whether she
29 Analog : Your bosses must have done a good job hiding the cameras. "Ask" being the operative word. FR could always ask that the photo be deleted and kick the
30 Davescj : Remember further, many countries restrict photos of minors -- period. If the kid is under 18, you need parental permission to post. If the FA thought
31 B6MoneyGuyJFK : I mean't asside from the security cameras, which I was aware of. Meant customers walking up and snapping photos of the cashiers
32 Analog : What countries, and what do you mean by "post"? Display online, mail, publish, or something else? Thankfully taking photos of minors in public, unles
33 Mayor : I hardly know where to start with these two posts. This is some of the most selfish rants I've ever heard. You may have a right to videotape them but
34 Analog : Their employer may have a term in the CoC prohibiting filming of the crew, but that's totally different from the crew having a right not to be filmed
35 Gosimeon : Their job description does not involve posing for photographers or people with Handy Cams. Some oblige, some do not, it is their choice. Where do you
36 Analog : I might be disturbed or uncomfortable, but in my case the place of employment is not customer accessible. In general the customer can be asked to sto
37 SJC-Alien : Like I said before - I never had any problem before the 9-11 terror attacks.....and I've been filming Jets since the 1960's.. Now, everybody is a prim
38 Post contains links Myt332 : Really? http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/phot...545706/n816545706_2245500_8286.jpg I'd get that secured Ryan!
39 Post contains links Davescj : It actually can be. For example -- and this is in Federal law -- we can't post events of minors at our Church's event's without the parents consent.
40 GT4EZY : Taken by another crew member with my permission. With respect, it sounds very much like you have a problem with authority. The police officer was pur
41 Myt332 : True yet what other type of photo could show you doing something on a plane that you don't want to be shown? Actually on second thoughts, don't answe
42 GT4EZY : Once again, it is down to courtesy. Very rarely would i decline a photograph taken of me if I was asked. Having random pictures taken of me without p
43 OA260 : I use my discretion and if a cabin crew member came up to me and asked me to delete it then I would. Thats their right . Same way I have the right to
44 Mandala499 : I would not be surprised if it is. I had a nice argument with an F/A regarding "security" when asking for an aircraft's registration... she refused o
45 GT4EZY : Slightly patronising. Considering the amount of information your average crew member takes in during initial training, recurrent training and general
46 AuroraLives : Regarding all your posts.... maybe try looking at it this way... How would YOU feel if the passenger in front of you turned around and without asking
47 N702ML : I want to address this whole "video-taping" in the cabin issue. If you want to use your video camera to record out the window....be my guest. If you w
48 RussianJet : Damn right. I don't care about people taking pictures of aircraft or themselves or friends or whatever, but don't you dare point your camera at me wi
49 OA260 : I take your point but also I can tell you all of the above without a video camera !!! Also there is a big difference between a 60 sec video and someo
50 Post contains links Analog : The link you provided seems to contradict that statement. Taking the photos is still perfectly legal, as is putting the photos online. The problem co
51 RussianJet : Best post of this forum. He clearly has a problem with all authority and generalises about all public servants. If he had any idea about even a fract
52 Christopherwoo : You sound like a complete Jerk. If i was the FA on that flight I would have given you the choice of turning off the camera or getting off the plane.
53 Analog : By what law? If it's the "obeying crew instructions" law, where is the limit to that law? There are plenty of legal requests that [I hope] would not
54 Davescj : But if the law/regulations were clear, then lawyers would have nothing to argue over. In the US particularly, part of the problem is judges try and i
55 Tonystan : I could have used other words but I also have the "freedom" of speech surely? Anyway, you are right, we will not agree nor will I change my viewpoint
56 Ditzyboy : TonyStan - I agree... It seems like some of those posters here have issues with 'personal insecurity' (as stated by one of them). I think control issu
57 Baexecutive : At the end of the day you are flying on what classes as private property, therefore in order to take any kind of image you need permission.
58 Post contains links Analog : I believe you are mistaken: http://www.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/024204p.pdf It's the FA's job to make as many people pay attention to the safety bri
59 DTWAGENT : In this day and age, who knows what someone can do with a picture. But, I agree if she did not want her pic taken then she should have just ask to be
60 Pnwtraveler : The bottom line is an aircraft is not public space. It is owned by an airline. They have a responsibility and right to protect their plane, the passen
61 FlyboyOz : QF check-in staff always told the pax/people to stop taking photos/filming of their colleagues.
62 Ditzyboy : I think you have confused my point, or perhaps I wasn't clear enough... I was making reference to company procedures and protocol ie. WHERE crew are
63 Smi0006 : Initially I wasn't going to respond to this post but after reading through it there are some very 'unusual' ideas here that I strongly question their
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Pictures Of PAX Cabin On 747F Or Other Freigthers. posted Tue Oct 30 2007 14:27:44 by SAS-A321
BA Cabin Crew Vote 96% In Favour Of Strike Action. posted Mon Jan 15 2007 13:10:04 by Cumulus
Pictures Of PAX Cabin On 747F Or Other Freigthers. posted Tue Oct 30 2007 14:27:44 by SAS-A321
Flight And Cabin Crew Use Of The Word, "about" posted Sat May 26 2007 00:39:23 by Mwscan
Length Of Pilot And Cabin Crew Stop Overs posted Mon Apr 17 2006 13:57:19 by Robertmalpass
Flight And Cabin Crew Use Of The Word, "about" posted Sat May 26 2007 00:39:23 by Mwscan
Cabin Pictures Of QF Boeing 707-138 From 1960 posted Fri Feb 2 2007 20:23:05 by ClassicLover
Cabin Pictures Of QF Boeing 707-138 From 1960 posted Fri Feb 2 2007 20:23:05 by ClassicLover
Cabin Crew Number Of Working Days posted Tue Jan 16 2007 15:54:00 by Bongodog1964
Cabin Crew Number Of Working Days posted Tue Jan 16 2007 15:54:00 by Bongodog1964
BA Cabin Crew Vote 96% In Favour Of Strike Action. posted Mon Jan 15 2007 13:10:04 by Cumulus
BA Cabin Crew Vote 96% In Favour Of Strike Action. posted Mon Jan 15 2007 13:10:04 by Cumulus
Length Of Pilot And Cabin Crew Stop Overs posted Mon Apr 17 2006 13:57:19 by Robertmalpass
Length Of Pilot And Cabin Crew Stop Overs posted Mon Apr 17 2006 13:57:19 by Robertmalpass
Length Of Pilot And Cabin Crew Stop Overs posted Mon Apr 17 2006 13:57:19 by Robertmalpass