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Are AeroSvit Now Operating The Saab 340?  
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11649 posts, RR: 60
Posted (6 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 5607 times:

Whilst looking at aircraft to fly within the Ukraine I've noticed that several flights listed a few weeks ago as being operated by "An-24" have now become "Saab SF340A/340B", for instance;

Quote:
Sunday, July 06, 2008
Departure: 14:00 Kiev, Ukraine - Borispol, terminal A
Arrival: 15:50 Chernovtsy, Ukraine - Chernovtsy

Airline: Aerosvit Airlines VV073 Aircraft: Saab SF340A/340B

I've tried searching the web to see if anyone has sighted these aircraft but drew a blank, I've also looked through the production lists spreadsheet and couldn't find any aircraft listed as being owned by AeroSvit - but then again this data is probably quite out of date!

I'd be very grateful for any information about the aircraft, and if they are really out there, the best rotation to fly on? Return fares are about $97 currently, so it certainly would be a good way to fly the SAAB for the first time.

Thanks in advance,


Dan  Wink


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User currently onlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4680 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 5602 times:

From what I remember a shitload of Ukrainian aircraft were being banned due to missing safety equipment in the cockpit. Might be that the AN-24's fall under these.


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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 5602 times:

Sounds like somebody else operating it on Aerosvit's behalf.

Another suggestion to get yourself on a Saab and a more unusual operator would be to try to Carpatair and their fleet of Saab 2000s and 340s out of Timisoara. I did OTP-TSR and return last autumn - and a nice little carrier they were too  Smile



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User currently onlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4680 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 15 hours ago) and read 5579 times:



Quoting Cornish (Reply 2):
Sounds like somebody else operating it on Aerosvit's behalf.

Aerosvit flights on the AN-24 were already operated (partly?) by ARP-410 airlines, the repair plant.



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User currently offlineAirevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 879 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 13 hours ago) and read 5534 times:

There is a new airline called MRK Airlines in the Ukraine and they operate two Saab 340. Besides, South Airlines from Odessa is said to have received at least one Saab 340 and they have operated aircraft on behalf of Aerosvit in the past. Had the pleasure to fly on one of their Tupolev 134s from Odessa to Kiev.


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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11649 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 11 hours ago) and read 5494 times:



Quoting JRadier (Reply 1):
From what I remember a shitload of Ukrainian aircraft were being banned due to missing safety equipment in the cockpit. Might be that the AN-24's fall under these.

Ah good point, I remember reading a snippet about that a while ago, I thought it might have been replaced or added by now though.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 2):
Another suggestion to get yourself on a Saab and a more unusual operator would be to try to Carpatair and their fleet of Saab 2000s and 340s out of Timisoara. I did OTP-TSR and return last autumn - and a nice little carrier they were too

What were the fares like on them, or was the company paying and didn't it matter?  Wink I had planned to fly them (Carpatair) this summer, but I'm going the other way to the Caucasus instead after seeing the Ukraine.

Quoting JRadier (Reply 3):
Aerosvit flights on the AN-24 were already operated (partly?) by ARP-410 airlines, the repair plant.

Had not heard of that airline before, would be an interesting one to add to the logbook though!  Smile

Quoting Airevents (Reply 4):
There is a new airline called MRK Airlines in the Ukraine and they operate two Saab 340. Besides, South Airlines from Odessa is said to have received at least one Saab 340 and they have operated aircraft on behalf of Aerosvit in the past. Had the pleasure to fly on one of their Tupolev 134s from Odessa to Kiev.

I think MRK operated the 340A version, that would be cool to fly on. Shame the Tu134's are no longer in service, or at least not to my knowledge?


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5439 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
What were the fares like on them, or was the company paying and didn't it matter?

Well the client was paying, but as surface transport wasn't a sensible option.... I did a walk up and buy that morning for a day return OTP-TSR-OTP on Saab 2000s. I think it was around 80 quid or so but I'd have to check back at my expenses.

Onboard sandwich/snack - with a sandwich better than BA offers these days. But then RO still give you a full cooked meal on LHR-OTP flights, so buy on board clearly hasn't caught on in Romania yet  Wink



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11649 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5406 times:



Quoting Cornish (Reply 6):
Well the client was paying, but as surface transport wasn't a sensible option.... I did a walk up and buy that morning for a day return OTP-TSR-OTP on Saab 2000s. I think it was around 80 quid or so but I'd have to check back at my expenses.

Onboard sandwich/snack - with a sandwich better than BA offers these days. But then RO still give you a full cooked meal on LHR-OTP flights, so buy on board clearly hasn't caught on in Romania yet

Thanks, that sounds pretty good. There are absolutely no hints as to the fares on Carpatair's site, but £80 for a walk-up sounds highly reasonable to me, perhaps my summer holiday in 2009 will be Romania!  Smile


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5138 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5397 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
Had not heard of that airline before, would be an interesting one to add to the logbook though!

im not sure if ARP-410 are an actual airline or if they are just the owners of the aircraft - my impression was they had repaired the aircraft and they were leased to AeroSvit who operate them.

If you do fly AeroSvit be prepared for a treck around kiev to try and locate your tickets! We visited 3 ticket desks and 2 airline offices before we could collect our tickets last year!



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User currently offlineDYflyer From Norway, joined May 2006, 676 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5357 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
Quoting JRadier (Reply 3):Aerosvit flights on the AN-24 were already operated (partly?) by ARP-410 airlines, the repair plant.
Had not heard of that airline before, would be an interesting one to add to the logbook though!  

If you hadn't dropped out of the meet last year you would have flown with them  Wink. Jurgen, Gavin and i got to fly with them from Kiev to Dnepropetrovsk.

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 8):
im not sure if ARP-410 are an actual airline or if they are just the owners of the aircraft - my impression was they had repaired the aircraft and they were leased to AeroSvit who operate them.

I believe they might have started out with operating planes instead of getting paid for repairs. Now they seems to have 8 AN24s and 1 AN26 of their own.



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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1876 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5298 times:



Quote:
South Airlines (Ukraine)
Hub: Odessa | IATA: YG | ICAO: OTL | details
C/N MSN last update model registration remarks former airline former reg. delivered to
225 0 NEW S340 B UR-IMS Carpatair YR-VGR Crossair



Quote:
MRK Airlines
Hub: Kiev Zhulyany | IATA: 6V | ICAO: MRW | details
C/N MSN last update model registration remarks former airline former reg. delivered to
97 0 S340 A UR-CGQ Air Nelson N771DF Swedair
124 0 S340 A UR-CGR Air Nelson N340JW Delta Air Regionalflugverkehr



User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5289 times:

There's no wetlease information published in the schedule, so it looks like they might be VV's own aircraft. Config shows C6/Y24.

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 8):
If you do fly AeroSvit be prepared for a treck around kiev to try and locate your tickets! We visited 3 ticket desks and 2 airline offices before we could collect our tickets last year!

VV are busy implementing E-tickets across their network (they migrated to Amadeus in November 2006, so they should be completely e-ticket pretty soon. It does depend on the airport set up though).

Quoting PlymSpotter (Thread starter):
I'd be very grateful for any information about the aircraft, and if they are really out there, the best rotation to fly on? Return fares are about $97 currently, so it certainly would be a good way to fly the SAAB for the first time.

All bookings in the name of "SCRUFFBAG/DAN MR" will be summarily cancelled without refund ! BwuuAHAHAHAH !


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