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Any Update About BA LCY-NYC?  
User currently offlineSpud757 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 327 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3098 times:

Does anyone know what is happening with the proposed BA route LCY to NYC?

A friend of mine who is BA cabin crew says things have gone a bit hush about the route. Is it still on? Do BA still have an order for A318 aircraft for the route?

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User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

It has gone a bit hush as it isn't due to start until 2009!! So there is nothing to announce at the moment! It is still on and BA do have A318's on order.

User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3494 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2974 times:

What is the nessessity in LCY to NYC service? There are already tons of flights a day from LHR and LGW to JFK and EWR.


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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17050 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2965 times:

If I remember correctly this flight will make a stop at SNN, right??


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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3976 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2931 times:



Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 2):
What is the nessessity in LCY to NYC service?

LCY is a 5 min cab ride from Canary Wharf in the East End of London. Nearly all the banks have the offices here.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 3):
If I remember correctly this flight will make a stop at SNN, right??

Yes but Westbound only, for fuel and customs and immigration.


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22710 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2740 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 4):
Yes but Westbound only, for fuel and customs and immigration.

Does SNN have customs preclearance now? It used to be immigration only.



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User currently offlineCuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 678 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2696 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 5):
Does SNN have customs preclearance now? It used to be immigration only.

Customs will still be in NYC. Otherwise they would have to offload and re-load the luggage!

No customs clearance in SNN, just immigration and re-fueling.


User currently onlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7380 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

The last formal mention of this service was in a BA Press Release dated 5 March. It said:


"Strategic Developments

"British Airways said it will launch double daily business class-only flights from London City airport to New York next year. The new flights will operate on Airbus A318 aircraft with 32 seats onboard."


I do not think it would have been mentioned at all yet if it was not for the fact that the Airbus order book shows that BA have converted two of their outstanding A320 orders to A318 orders.


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22710 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2603 times:



Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 6):
Customs will still be in NYC. Otherwise they would have to offload and re-load the luggage!

It almost seems like they would be better off working out some sort of priority immigration/customs setup in NYC, in that case.



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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3976 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2492 times:



Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 6):
Customs will still be in NYC. Otherwise they would have to offload and re-load the luggage!

32 businessmen going to JFK, how much checked baggage?
Max 5 pieces. Must be worth unloading for customs assuming SNN gets Customs clearance
by the time the service starts.


User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17050 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2358 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 9):
32 businessmen going to JFK, how much checked baggage?

True. BA have started this route for just businessmen. I think that this route will be successful. Hope that at least.



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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3976 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2216 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 4):
Quoting B747forever (Reply 3):
If I remember correctly this flight will make a stop at SNN, right??

Yes but Westbound only, for fuel and customs and immigration.

It appears that the Westbound stop will now be in GLA not SNN.
Also the service will start with the start of the Summer 09 schedule on 27 Mar 2009.
It will operate 5 days a week twice a day, the aircraft will spend the weekend in JFK
where most maintenance will be performed.


User currently onlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7380 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2080 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 11):
It appears that the Westbound stop will now be in GLA not SNN.

The great circle route LCY-JFK virtually passes over SNN. The great circle routes LCY-GLA and GLA-JFK add about 100 miles to the total distance. But I assume that the 319 does not have ETOPS clearance to follow the (direct) great circle route. Could this be the reason why the stop will be at GLA instead of SNN as BA will need to route the flight to the north of the direct great circle route?

Also I imagine there is a finite demand for a GLA-JFK business class service. So is it possible that BA will sell GLA-JFK-LHR/LCY-GLA tickets and turn a technical stop into a conventional stop? I would imagine they could sell such tickets at the same price as LCY-JFK-LCY tickets.


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2023 times:



Quoting VV701 (Reply 12):
Also I imagine there is a finite demand for a GLA-JFK business class service. So is it possible that BA will sell GLA-JFK-LHR/LCY-GLA tickets and turn a technical stop into a conventional stop? I would imagine they could sell such tickets at the same price as LCY-JFK-LCY tickets.

I doubt that. Tickets will probably only be on sale for LCY-JFK-LCY and GLA or SNN will be tech stops / imigration but not more


User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1984 times:



Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 2):
What is the nessessity in LCY to NYC service? There are already tons of flights a day from LHR and LGW to JFK and EWR.

Probably because if they don´t even more pax will make the detour via AMS, CDG or BRU when flying to London from the US. LCY is the preferred airport for business traffic (no hassle at a big airport and very very close to the city of London) and more and more people realise that flying via AMS to LCY is sometimes less time consuming than travelling to LHR nonstop.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24786 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1958 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 11):
It appears that the Westbound stop will now be in GLA not SNN.

Stopping at GLA means they lose the ability to preclear U.S. immigration during the fuel stop which they can do at SNN.


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