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Long Layover: Airline Pays?  
User currently offlineParisien From France, joined Dec 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 16280 times:

Just wondering when travel involves long lay over, do airlines usually pay or get pax discount for hotels ?
Etihad for instance have long layover that is practically overnight (or all day) in Abu Dhabi from europe to asia or vice versa. booking via internet does not give any info about this possibility.
any infos would be appreciated.

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User currently offlineYWG747 From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 251 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 16270 times:

I really doubt it.
If the flight had a long layover due to a technical malfunction I could see it.
But not for a scheduled layover


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 16256 times:

If its the airlines' fault:

Pre-9/11: yes
Nowadays: I don't think so...anymore.

If it is a part of your schedule: No.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25638 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 16231 times:



Quoting YWG747 (Reply 1):
I really doubt it.
If the flight had a long layover due to a technical malfunction I could see it.
But not for a scheduled layover

Airlines will sometimes absorb overnight expenses on an ad hoc basis for competitive reasons, especially smaller carriers, and especially if you're paying high first or business class fares on longhaul routes. You'd have to contact the carrier direct for that sort of thing.


User currently offlineMSYPI7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 16167 times:

Why should they? Not meaning to be an a**, why would the airline be responsible? I am assuming, of course, we are talking scheduled, not due to mechanical reasons.

MD


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 16123 times:



Quoting Parisien (Thread starter):
Just wondering when travel involves long lay over, do airlines usually pay or get pax discount for hotels ?
Etihad for instance have long layover that is practically overnight (or all day) in Abu Dhabi from europe to asia or vice versa. booking via internet does not give any info about this possibility.
any infos would be appreciated.

EY actually does provide for a hotel. My in-laws had a 12 hour lay-over flying KHI-AUH-LHR and they got a hotel.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25638 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 16089 times:



Quoting MSYPI7185 (Reply 4):
Why should they? Not meaning to be an a**, why would the airline be responsible? I am assuming, of course, we are talking scheduled, not due to mechanical reasons.

They're not responsible but if an airline can generate full fare first or business class longhaul revenue by picking up the hotel cost when the carrier lacks a same-day connection, they may well agree to do it just to avoid losing the passenger.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 16089 times:



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 5):
EY actually does provide for a hotel. My in-laws had a 12 hour lay-over flying KHI-AUH-LHR and they got a hotel.

Are you positively sure about that?? I seriously doubt an airline would pay for a hotel on a 12 hour layover that was no fault of the airline (IE: mechanical or WX).



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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3259 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 16051 times:

A lot of airlines will provide for an STPC - which is a free hotel/transfer. Basically any airline that does not have the frequencies to provide prompt connections, but yet relies on connecting traffic, will need to provide the STPC to gain business. The gulf carriers all provide them, for instance my parents had a connection on BLR-DXB-GRU that was many hours apart, and EK was happy to provide them with a nice hotel and transfers. UL offers free hotel/holidays in CMB. I've availed of TG's hospitality in BKK (hotel + transfer only  Wink) many times. SQ is notably stingy and does not offer STPC though  Sad.


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User currently offlineFlashFlyGuy From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 439 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 16026 times:



Quoting MSYPI7185 (Reply 4):
Why should they? Not meaning to be an a**, why would the airline be responsible? I am assuming, of course, we are talking scheduled, not due to mechanical reasons.



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7):
Are you positively sure about that?? I seriously doubt an airline would pay for a hotel on a 12 hour layover that was no fault of the airline (IE: mechanical or WX).

Probably not on the flying bus companies (that pass themselves off as 'premium' carriers) that you have in the US. (Not being an a** myself)

But..on World Class AIRLINES....paying a premium fare entitles you to more than having a second packet of peanuts or pretzels thrown at you!

As per;

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):
They're not responsible but if an airline can generate full fare first or business class longhaul revenue by picking up the hotel cost when the carrier lacks a same-day connection, they may well agree to do it just to avoid losing the passenger.

There were/are some routes/fares that included overnight accommodation in Tokyo, on JAL.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 15994 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 5):
EY actually does provide for a hotel. My in-laws had a 12 hour lay-over flying KHI-AUH-LHR and they got a hotel.

Are you positively sure about that?? I seriously doubt an airline would pay for a hotel on a 12 hour layover that was no fault of the airline (IE: mechanical or WX).

Considering my sis-in-law called me from the hotel, I would say yes... Wink

I'm not so sure if its a policy of theirs...but I do they provided it for both of my sis-in-laws (they were traveling together) when they traveled said route.



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User currently offlineBPS3458 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 565 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 15935 times:



Quoting FlashFlyGuy (Reply 9):
But..on World Class AIRLINES....paying a premium fare entitles you to more than having a second packet of peanuts or pretzels thrown at you!

Mate, can confirm your comment as follows:

MH Economy BNE-KUL-FRA in October 07: We got in to KUL early in the morning and our connecting flight to FRA departed around midnight. The air fare included hotel room all day in the 5-star Pan Pacific Hotel at KUL which must be one of the best airport hotels in the world.

KE Business BNE-ICN-FRA in December 07: KE gets in to ICN from BNE around 5:00 PM and the flight to FRA leaves at around 1:00 PM. Ticket included overnight stay at the Hyatt Regency at ICN which is also a first class hotel. Believe you stay in the same hotel at airlines' expense if you travel in economy.

Cheers from Brisbane,

BPS3458


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5713 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 15916 times:



Quoting FlashFlyGuy (Reply 9):
There were/are some routes/fares that included overnight accommodation in Tokyo, on JAL.

JAL provides overnight accommodation for all pax Oz-Europe, westbound (subject to availability when booking) at both NRT & KIX. This is because the scheduled connection they advertise involves such a stop over. They do not do it eastbound when the connection time is around 6 hours or so and neither NRT or KIX is such a bad place to spend 6 hours.

I think, but am not 100% sure, that KE do it also, at ICN and for exactly the same reasons.

The moral being check your conditions of booking/carriage CAREFULLY.

Gemuser



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User currently offlineParisien From France, joined Dec 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 15701 times:

hi, thanks for all the responses...I guess best call the airline before booking that ticket on the internet. I don't expect to get a free hotel these days really, but even if they get you a discounted rate that will be sufficient. I just cannot imagine spending 22 hours at Abu Dhabi airport...I will surely go out and explore the city (on one of the connexion its day time, but the other one is mostly night), but at some point I will surely be in need to rest my weary behind.
And yes, this is a scheduled stop (at least thats the schedule for which places are available) and , sigh, I will be in economy.
Anyone knows of nice cafes, places to eat and bars in Abu Dhabi ?


User currently offlineVTNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 15574 times:

Be sure to check with your travel agent/airline before you make plans to avail of their hospitality. I was denied accommodation on a 20 hour layover COK-DXB-JFK. The EK desk at DXB asked me for voucher which should have been provided by the EK staff in COK upon reconfirmation. However, I had reconfirmed on a weekend and the recorded message advised me that reconfirmation was no longer necessary for EK flights. I am sure the desk agent could have overlooked the missing voucher but it did not help that I was berating their service. Wrote a number of mails bitching about the treatment to no avail. I was told that my agent should have made the arrangements in NY. In the end shelled out the hundred bucks for a room.


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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 15544 times:



Quoting BPS3458 (Reply 11):
KE Business BNE-ICN-FRA in December 07: KE gets in to ICN from BNE around 5:00 PM and the flight to FRA leaves at around 1:00 PM. Ticket included overnight stay at the Hyatt Regency at ICN which is also a first class hotel. Believe you stay in the same hotel at airlines' expense if you travel in economy.

OZ has the same policy when you fly SYD to FRA/LHR/CDG. Quite good hotel in a convenient city location, although most people prefer the airport hotels since it is a 1h drive from ICN to downtown Seoul.They even provide you with 2 meal vouchers for dinner and breakfast in the hotel.


User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 15536 times:

EY indeed provides hotel accomodation to (premium) transfer pax at their AUH 'hub'.

In fact the hotel is situated inside the terminal and you don't even have to clear customs or pass immigration for it.

It used to be standard service for all their connecting pax, but given the ever increasing numbers of them as well as the improved connections they now offer, it is now reserved for their premium fare pax only, yet given to the others too upon availability as a sort of complementary service.


User currently offlineCoolfish1103 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 404 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 15532 times:

Both BR and CI provides such accommodations in it's package deal for passengers traveling from North America to Taiwan (TPE) and is going to a Southeast Asia destination on the next day. It has to be a deal done w/the airlines when the ticket is issued. As commented by passengers, the hotels offered by BR is better than CI's, and there's a Novetel Hotel being built at TPE that is invested by CI as well. You can read this from Skytrax's passenger comments.

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