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New Plane Lets OPP Spot Speeders From The Sky  
User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

Hey all

I thought this is interesting. link http://www.thestar.com/article/42168


May 05, 2008 08:22 PM
THE CANADIAN PRESS

Ontario Provincial Police now have another pair of eyes in the sky to help crack down on dangerous drivers on the province's highways.

Premier Dalton McGuinty unveiled a new OPP plane Monday that's equipped with high-tech surveillance equipment to watch roads from overhead.

The Cessna 206, along with staffing and startup costs, came with a $1.4-million price tag.

The OPP had planes watching motorists from the skies between 1965 and 1981, but the program was discontinued for a number of reasons, including cost.

The force has been conducting air surveillance on roads in the Greater Toronto Area with a rented plane since the end of August.

McGuinty said the plane, which can monitor hundreds of cars at a time, will help police catch more offenders with fewer officers.

"We've all seen how dangerous drivers hit the brakes when they see a police vehicle," McGuinty said.

"They won't get away with that when this plane is on patrol. By the time they see the cruiser, they've already been caught."

Ontario drivers caught speeding 50 kilometres per hour or more over the limit can lose their licences for seven days and have their vehicles seized.

Since the law came into effect last fall, more than 4,681 drivers have been handed suspensions and had their vehicles taken away, said OPP Commissioner Julian Fantino.

If he had to do it all over again, Fantino said he would have asked the province to toughen the law and penalize those driving 30 km/h over the speed limit.

"It seems that some people just don't get it," said Fantino, who has pushed for an OPP plane since visiting Ohio last summer to see how aircraft are used to catch dangerous drivers.

"I travel the highways of Ontario daily, and I continue to be amazed, if not astounded, at the number of motorists that, despite the warning signs along the highway and extensive media attention, continue to drive 50 km/h over the speed limit and then some."

But McGuinty isn't eager to toughen up Ontario's speed racing law.

"It seems to me that we've had that law in effect for a relatively short period of time," he said. "My preference is, let's just give it more time."

The new plane won't solve all of the OPP's problems, but it will enable officers to be far more effective in enforcing the law, Fantino said.

The Ministry of Transportation has already identified problem areas such as Highway 400 between highways 88 and 89, as well as Highway 69 between Parry Sound and Sudbury, he said.

The province approved $2 million last August to fund the new plane. But given the large operating costs, it's questionable whether buying an OPP plane is the best use of taxpayers' money, said NDP critic Peter Kormos.

Motorists would prefer to see more cops on the road, not planes in the sky, he said.

"Clearly, it was Christmas for Julian Fantino," he said. "He wanted a plane, he got a plane."

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User currently offlineRadarbeam From Canada, joined Mar 2002, 1310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

1.4 millions for the aircraft, staffing and start up cost?
Ok so a relatively new 206 cost what? 400K?
One pilot at maybe 55k and one cop at 75K
let's add Hangaring,maintenance, insurance & marking the roads ...let's be generous 200K
That gives us a little less that 700K in unknown"start up" costs ...how are those accounted for?


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21588 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3692 times:



Quoting Radarbeam (Reply 1):
That gives us a little less that 700K in unknown"start up" costs ...how are those accounted for?

Free trips for the people in charge to exotic places to see how they deal with traffic there…



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User currently offlineCloudy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3559 times:

Generally, places will start using planes to catch speeders with great fanfare. Then they quietly abandon the idea when it proves to have a poor return on investment - police aircraft are worth the cost only in operations with a greater return.
At least, that is what the guy who wrote "A Speeder's guide to Avoiding Speeding Tickets." claims. When you see the
sign, it is almost always a bluff or a leftover from a brief period when the department tried it out, he says.

Catching people who run for the police, search and rescue, and catching reckless or drunk drivers is a much better use of an expensive aircraft. Most of the time, a large department has a few helicopters that take turns being on patrol in order to be available for such jobs. Some also have a few fixed wing aircraft because they are cheaper to have on patrol then helicopters and can still do many of the same jobs. I would guess the common setup is to start with one helicopter on patrol at a time and another on the ground in reserve or in maintenance. As a department grows larger, perhaps a fixed wing aircraft or two would be added to free the helicopter for jobs that can only be done by helicopters. Really large or rich jurisdictions would have a much larger number of aircraft, with the mix of helicopter and fixed wing determined by the percentage of jobs that require helicopters.

Ive seen material that suggests that auto-gyro is a good compromise between helicopter and fixed wings and is grossly underused by police and by society in general. It is much simpler than a helicopter. It uses far less fuel, is easier to fly, and has lower maintenance expenses then helicopters. It is capable of very short takeoff and landings. Its ability to circle very slowly is often an adequately substitute for the ability to hover. A small number of police departments are trying out this kind of a machine as a replacement for some helicopters.


User currently offlineGmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2159 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3403 times:

I was wondering what band would they be on... if i had my scanner in the truck, could i listen for them?

Thanks,

Grant



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