Brenintw From Taiwan Region, joined Jul 2006, 939 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 29316 times:
So Airbus is (apparently) going with blended winglets on the A350, and not swept wingtips -- any reason for this? I was under the impression that the swept wingtips were more efficient than winglets for the kind of missions the A350 is targeted at (long-haul applications).
I love taking off, I love landing -- I'm not wild about the bit in between
Scouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 2746 posts, RR: 6 Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 29266 times:
Quoting Brenintw (Reply 3): So Airbus is (apparently) going with blended winglets on the A350, and not swept wingtips -- any reason for this? I was under the impression that the swept wingtips were more efficient than winglets for the kind of missions the A350 is targeted at (long-haul applications).
I think that this render is just to demonstrate the nose design - it may be that the wing-tips have yet to be frozen .
Lightsaber From United States, joined Jan 2005, 5175 posts, RR: 86 Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 29265 times:
Interesting. I was looking forward to seeing how they were incorporating the landing gear and the crew rest! Those little details were among the inovations I thought were the most interesting with the A350's nose.
Moo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 29163 times:
Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 10): Interesting. I was looking forward to seeing how they were incorporating the landing gear and the crew rest! Those little details were among the inovations I thought were the most interesting with the A350's nose.
The landing gear is vastly similar to the A380, so I don't think they are departing too much from what they have experience with there.
The crew rest was moved to above and behind the flight deck late last year.
JoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 1941 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 29153 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 4):
Truth be told, I think it's a more attractive plane than the A330.
The A330 has one of the most elegant airliner designs... the new A350 looks like it will steal this limelight from its sibling. Very good looking plane.
Geo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 28574 times:
The bit that I noticed was that Airbus are doing away with the DV windows. This in my view is a step backwards, as they had so much more purpose than an escape route. You could use them to chat to the guy on the ground, lean out and clean the windscreen and of course let in a bit of fresh air.
Flown on A300B4/600,A319/20/21,A332/3,A343,B727,B732/3/4/7/8,B741/2/4,B752,B762/3,B772/3,DC10,L1011-200,VC10,MD80,1-11
BlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1187 posts, RR: 5 Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 28458 times:
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Makes 787's nose look like a square brick. Definitely the most attractive and elegant "next generation" widebody plane. Yes, more beautiful than 787. And those winglets.... yummy!!!
You can bash me all you want, but I consider the 747 and A380 equal... in their ugliness!!! Signed: 777 fanatic.
With the 787-10 pushed back until around the time that President Obama is completing his second term and small prospect of a significantly improved 777W on the horizon, I'd say you may not have long to wait!
26 Gorgos: Something is wrong with that image. Its not very 3-dimensional. I think its a flat drawing with some projected depths, but only in some parts.
27 LHStarAlliance: Very beautiful A/C ! Can't wait to fly on it ! Constantin
28 Stitch: Indeed. That one was ugly. This one is elegant.
29 Rheinwaldner: Summary of past official statements: - The nose will have the A380 cockpit - The changes will hardly be noticeable compared to earlier drawings No one
30 Rleiro: I don't like it at all, the nose resembles the one from a TGV. However, the wings seem to be quite stylish. I hope that Airbus will keep them. Saludos
31 KPHXFlyer: The top picture is the old version. The picture of the whole Emirates plane shows a new design...at least a new nose with the recognizable Airbus win
32 474218: Is the A350 going to have a flat cabin floor?
33 Rheinwaldner: That you could belong to the minority of the 737-nose-dislikers and that the 737 has been bought so many times because of its pretty nose!
34 Speedbird2263: To be quite frank I almost mistook that rendering for NASA's Shuttle. ..... Hideous A very good point; I can only think that weight savings might hav
35 Knoxibus: Here is a side rendering, those blended winglets look huge!
36 Ebj1248650: The new design is distinctive and, to my way of thinking, quite attractive.
37 Geo772: Might want to make the image a jpeg for those airnetters on slower connections
39 Legoguy: It does seem to have a rather largish nose and the cockpit windows do look slightly small, but other than that, the new design doesn't look half bad.
40 Hloutweg: Yet though, this is an Emirates image. I mean, that images more true to Airbus' design are still due. I praise the images though, they're pretty neat
41 Swallow: For such a large wing, I am surprised to see only 2 actuators [those gadgets that extend the flaps]. The 330 has three pairs and the 346 four pairs. T
42 Scbriml: The quality of the image isn't great, but it does look as though there is a third one - inboard of the engine.
44 Cloudyapple: So we now know the reg of Emirates' first A350 is A6-EXA
45 SXDFC: I like the redesigned cockpit windows of the A350! Although I wish it kept the A300-310-330-340 style cockpit windows! Imagine the 787 with the old 70
46 EA772LR: I don't care what anyone says, the 787 and the A350 are absolutely beautiful aircraft on the exterior, and even more impressive engineering on the in
47 Astuteman: Agree. It's nice to see the art of "what can be done" practiced when a little bit of constructive pressure is applied.. Rgds
48 Kaneporta1: Whoever did this rendering, didn't quite get those winglets right... The (equally big) 777 also has 3 flap hinges (2 outboard of the engines and 1 in
49 Bkircher: When is this plane gonna be built? Seems like they have redesigned it like 5 or 6 times where as the 787 was 2-3 times. I still think that US Airways
50 Aircellist: I wonder... Any design engineer here that could tell us about the reduction in cockpit noise, with those new window designs?
52 YULWinterSkies: Still mostly looks like a paperplane to me... Does not inspire me for any comment besides this.
53 Glideslope: The side extensions seen very flush. The joining panes also seem smaller than the 787, along with the main glass having a rounded shape at the bottom
54 FRNT787: I hope that is false on both counts . Would love to see 787-10 soon, but no Obam...
55 Hloutweg: I keep looking at the picture and more and more things pop up showing that this Emirates's rendering is more artistic than technical like when you see
56 DocLightning: Well, duh! Planes aren't meant to be efficient; they're meant to look pretty!
57 RJ111: It'll probably look slighly different in the flesh. Looks ok, seeing the aircraft more will help you get used to it.
58 MIAMIx707: As much as I used to dislike Airbus for making shrinks and stretches of the A320 / A300 that got progressively uglier... The A350 could end up better
59 MIAMIx707: ..now, if any manufacturer could make a large T-tail airliner again (since the tri-jet supposedly has too many drawbacks, blah!)
60 Astuteman: ???? The A330 and A340 have to be two of the most beautiful aircraft flying today.......... . Ah well. All in the eye, I suppose....... Rgds
61 EA772LR: Definitely. The lines on the 330/340 are very graceful. I have to say that the A330-200 with Trents is one the best looking commercial aircraft in my
62 DocLightning: So I have a question for people who are "in the know." What considerations go into aircraft nose design? I would imagine that in this day and age of c
63 EPA001: You have got it all wrong EA772LR. The best looking commercial airliner is a totally different looking airliner. I am talking about the A340-500 o
64 MIAMIx707: What I said still applies. First was the A333, nice and graceful.. then the A332.. which from a side angle looks awkward. The wings are no longer in
65 Astuteman: For you, perhaps - unless you're telling ME what MY preference HAS to be........ As I said..... Rgds
66 BlueSky1976: Because in the late 1970s it was found through the aerodynamics research analysis, that the least amount of drag is produced by water droplet-like sh
67 Scbriml: It is beautifully proportioned, with right-sized engines.
69 EPA001: To please PM we have to write: with the right engines! .
70 MBJ2000: This has been found out much earlier, see "Tropfenwagen" from 1921: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Rumpler_Tropfenwagen.jpg
71 DocLightning: But the A330-40 has a sharp-ish nose... As does the 767 and 777.
72 EA772LR: I really can't argue with you guys. The 345 is an absolute stunner, especially in EY's livery
73 SeaBosDca: Not bad, but I think the 332 is better. Having only two engines so far inboard really brings out both the wide span and graceful shape of those 330/3
76 IliriBDL: I think it looks great. Can't wait till US gets theirs. (or shall I say United?)
77 Aviationbuff: Both looks good, however, 350 is a bit more attractive (looks) Agree
78 Aviationbuff: A350 gets a new nose...and wing. http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl.../a350-gets-a-new-noseand-wing.html
79 Gsosbee: They are still making changes to the nose and evidently to the wings. In every process there becomes a time when you have to say - that is the one we
80 Tdscanuck: There isn't, unfortunately. For a pure solid of revolution, there probably is, but as soon as you add windows, nose gear, pitot and static probes, ra
81 DTWAGENT: I don't see much difference. But I like the way the aircraft looks. Chuck
82 PDXCessna206: The A380 looks to be a great airplane despite having a gigantic forehead. The A350 will hopefully be a great aircraft as well....Despite having a giga
83 TriniA340: I might be in the minority, but I think the A346 is the most graceful, elegant-looking Airbus. Something about the long, lean look.... For me, the A33
84 Astuteman: I suspect that its gigantic forehead is one of the reasons the A380 is a great plane.......... Rgds
86 Nomadd22: I have a solution to the problem. Just add the Hunchback of Mukilteo to the list, and it will move the bottom of the scale so far down, all other airp
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