ElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1524 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6798 times:
Quoting Aguslamm (Reply 3): Is this a visibility problem or is there any danger with the ashes and engines?
Probably the latter. There have been some hair incidents involving jets ingesting super-heated volcanic ash. AA and UA did the right thing canceling their flights, it's better to ground flights than play chicken with mother nature.
Aguslamm From Argentina, joined Apr 2008, 29 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6220 times:
The ashes are far from being super-heated. They come from 1,000 miles south and have not even reached Buenos Aires. All other airlines are flying normally and made it on time. Maybe too drastic to cancel all flights, or the others are being irresponsible.
Western727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 643 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4037 times:
Quoting FXramper (Reply 7): Maybe AA and UA used the quality of air to save some fuel cost.
I think you're probably right, if it's just AA and UA that cancelled flights.
I understand all the posts about the dangers of flying with ash, but like one post mentions there is no ash in the EZE area right now and this appears to be reinforced by the stated fact that all the other airlines are still flying into and out of there...
The ash cloud reached the Atlantic and was over Buenos Aires. AA/UA did the right thing (responsible?) to not even have planes in the sky there. It's a danger that the airlines can't afford.
Also, consider this. Every flight that AA/UA offers to EZE sits on the ground all day. In 6-8 hours, volcanic ash can move fast. Better have your planes not fly to Buenos Aires in the first place if they might get grounded. AA would have 4 or 5 aircraft stuck on the ground if EZE was shut down. I also imagine that the volcanic plumes cuts directly into the flight path to EZE. Flying around the plume is going to be costly (from the looks of the satellite photo flights from DFW and ORD would have to fly much farther east than a straight line), and AA/UA don't want to foot the bill for the extra bill - just my 2 cents.
LVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 38 Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3887 times:
A lot of flights operating normally, but southbound (MDQ, BHI, BRC, EQS, REL), many have been cancelled these last two days (by all airlines). The skies are clear here but more grey than blue, as though there was a thick smog. Not so much at ground level, but higher-up seems to be a problem.
The 2nd time in a month BA has had air problems--first the smoke, now the ash!