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QR Can Order More Than 200 Aircrafts  
User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 379 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/Arti...id=2793&sid=36&sname=Top%20Stories

Quote:
Qatar Airways Chief Executive Officer Akbar Al Baker recently announced the airline’s aggressive expansion plans over the next few years highlighting orders for more than 200 aircraft worth over USD 30 billion. Talking at the recently concluded Arabian Travel Market (ATM), Al Baker said the airline’s aircraft orders would help facilitate the country’s economic drive forward and turn Qatar into both a leading regional and global aviation hub.

Other Highlights of the Article:

1) Doha – Houston route using 772 from November 10 with a non-stop flying time of 17 hours .
2) The brand new international airport under construction in Doha will also help facilitate the growth with the first phase slated to open in 2010.
3) Both runways are taking shape and terminal infrastructure is well under construction.
4) The initial capacity of 24 million passengers a year, rising to 50 million during the final development phase from 2015 onwards.

The Order (if placed) is an clear indication towards the new LCC, which is being discussed here:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3975164/

If they place such an order than I presume that the chunk will be taken by QR and around 40% by the LCC.

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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1698 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2129 times:
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Antone calling himself an Aviation buff should know that there is no such word as Aircrafts. |f you read the article you quoted you will see that it's Aircraft.  Smile

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 7354 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2087 times:
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Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 1):
Antone calling himself an Aviation buff should know that there is no such word as Aircrafts. |f you read the article you quoted you will see that it's Aircraft

Anyone correcting someone else's grammar should at least spell properly!

(Sorry, I know, minor error in each case, but lets not get caught up in semantics ... )

The real question here is, a potentially huge new aircraft investment. I wonder how much more expansion QR "proper" (i.e. leaving aside the LCC) will be doing over the next few years, given the economic downturn in Europe and the US.


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User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1720 times:



Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 1):
Antone calling himself an Aviation buff should know that there is no such word as Aircrafts. |f you read the article you quoted you will see that it's Aircraft.

Point taken Sir, This is not my first typo, i have done it before several times.  Smile
Next time onwards I will be careful.  Smile

User currently offlineKennyK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

Is there any way to come up with a likely mix of aircraft given its 200 aircraft worth over $30 billion?

With production at Boeing and Airbus pretty well taken up for the next 5-7 years I guess they may get a few slots in the next few years but more likely they will be looking around the 2013-2018 time frame for so many aircraft. In which case the 781 is in the frame, the A350 most definately and maybe, though it is probably too early the next generation narrowbodies. The C-series is high up there as a contender too. Maybe an upgraded 777 the 748i, A389.... I guess Farnborough will be interesting again this year!!

This sort of order is exciting as it could be so varied, no bets at all from me other than a few A380s.

User currently offlineNCB From Belgium, joined Jan 2008, 332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1469 times:

200 aircraft at 30 billion...makes it 150 million a piece.

For that money they can order 200 A350XWB (150m a piece at discounted price) or 100 A350XWB + 50 A380's which is more likely.

Where are the first available A380 slots?
2012? 2013?

User currently offlineFlying lsd From Belgium, joined Feb 2001, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

How 380 do they need for a hourly Doha -LHR?

User currently offlineTN757Flyer From United States, joined Apr 2008, 528 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1414 times:



Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 1):
Antone calling himself an Aviation buff should know that there is no such word as Aircrafts. |f you read the article you quoted you will see that it's Aircraft. Smile

Thank you! For years this tiny little grammatical error has been annoying. I realize in some cases it may be a language barrier thing, but the plural for aircraft is indeed aircraft.

User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1311 times:



Quoting Aviationbuff (Reply 3):
Point taken Sir, This is not my first typo, i have done it before several times. Smile
Next time onwards I will be careful. Smile

I have admitted my mistake. Lets focus our discussion on the topic rather than grammar.

User currently offlineDennys From France, joined May 2001, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

I DO HOPE QR will be a great 747-8i laucnch custommer !!!!

dennys

User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1176 times:



Quoting Dennys (Reply 9):
747-8i laucnch custommer

Hardly possible after LH bought 20+20 of them end of 2006  Wink


WARNING! The post above should be taken with a grain of salt! Furthermore, it may be slightly biased towards A.
User currently offline777way From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2005, 1887 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1148 times:

Why are QR using plastic cuttlery in J class? photos in here by some one else http://www.historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11388

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 7354 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1128 times:
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QR is mentioned as a possible launch customer for the Canadair C-series aircraft; I'm wondering how an aircraft of this size (which I'm assuming would be operated by the parent company, rather than the LCC) would fit alongside the low cost operation?

I'm assuming it would operate on less dense feeder routes which need connections, but which are "off the beaten track" ... the likes of secondary cities in Pakistan, India, S. Arabia and other GCC states.


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User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 914 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 12):
QR is mentioned as a possible launch customer for the Canadair C-series aircraft; I'm wondering how an aircraft of this size (which I'm assuming would be operated by the parent company, rather than the LCC) would fit alongside the low cost operation?

Article Dated March 10 2008: http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=12007

Quote:
Qatar Airways plans to start all-premium flights out of Doha on medium-haul routes, CEO Akbar Al Baker told ATWOnline at last week's ITB tourism fair in Berlin, and aircraft configured with an all-first-class cabin should be operating by year end.

Al Baker declined to reveal the type of aircraft or how many will be used on the new service. "We are looking for a 100-seat aircraft. I guess within six months time we will make the decision on which type of aircraft we will order," he said. He anticipates a demand for up to 20 regional aircraft serving at least 10 destinations in the Middle East. It is unclear whether QR is shopping at Bombardier, Embraer or both.



User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 4262 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 908 times:



Quoting Aviationbuff (Thread starter):
1) Doha – Houston route using 772 from November 10 with a non-stop flying time of 17 hours

Not bad at all! But with Emirates already in the Middle East - Houston market, isnt that enough? CO would likely be a better choice for a MidEast route from IAH, although I wouldnt mind seeing some more Aisan or European airlines come here


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User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 874 times:

Doom mongers have previously been predicting here on A net that this huge rush of orders from the Middle East will all end in tears; many have in the past disagreed. Surely however its now become an ordering game to see who can outdo the opposition.

Its all fairly safe though at present for the arlines concerned, as the full orderbooks put deliveries for their purchases the best part of a decade away.

User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 4995 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 868 times:

I think it will be 787s, A350s and A380s, I would wish for a 747-8I order, too.
Anything is better than just a A32x family order  Smile


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User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 851 times:

There is an article in Flight titled "Boeing 787 customers face two-year delivery delay"
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-face-two-year-delivery-delay.html

The Article has also highlighted that QR will exercise existing 777 options.

Quote:

Sources say that Qatar Airways is facing a similar length of delay to Air Canada, of over two years. The airline has 30 firm orders and 30 options, the first of which had been due in August 2010. Qatar Airways chief executive Akbar Al Baker says the airline will exercise existing 777 options to bridge the 787 delay and is considering additional leases.

Probably this will also be a part of the order.

User currently offlineScbriml From Saudi Arabia, joined Jul 2003, 8387 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 851 times:
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Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 14):
CO would likely be a better choice for a MidEast route from IAH

Why? You're looking at it from an American perspective. From the DXB or DOH end of the route, EK and QR look a much better choice! I would go so far as to suggest that both EK and QR have a better on-board product than CO.


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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 4262 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 795 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 18):
Why? You're looking at it from an American perspective.

This is not an American perspective, just my own.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 18):
I would go so far as to suggest that both EK and QR have a better on-board product than CO.

They do have a better on-board product than CO, however, CO does not have a genuine First Class cabin.


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User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 788 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 18):
Why? You're looking at it from an American perspective. From the DXB or DOH end of the route, EK and QR look a much better choice! I would go so far as to suggest that both EK and QR have a better on-board product than CO.

Exactly, given a choice between CO and EK/QR, the latter would win on any given day.


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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 4262 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (5 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 515 times:



Quoting Ojas (Reply 20):
Exactly, given a choice between CO and