LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22241 posts, RR: 51 Posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8321 times:
This weekend United is loading its new schedules for the fall reflecting reduction in domestic flying primarily via the parking some 737s. In addition UAX flying will also see a bit of a reduction.
The schedule commencing September 2nd contains a mix of reduced flying in many city pairs, while increases in others. The net schedule reduction is just over daily 100 mainline flights, and a bit over 30 UAX flights.
Net change in departures for September schedule over previous plans per hub are:
This schedule change reflects the first cut of Fall/Winter reductions, with a smaller adjustment planned as we move into June.
Hopefully I'll be able to come up with a city-pair summary in the next few days highlighting the specific changes.
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Unitednrt From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 281 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 8153 times:
Lax, did you receive this off Skynet? The release says that the number you have listed as UAX schedule reductions is the "percent of consolidated UA/UAX departures". 19 departure net reduction from DEN is about 4% of total departures out of DEN.
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Mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 22870 posts, RR: 87 Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7965 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 6): If I remember right wasn't there some sort of labor issue that caused UA to decide that ANC flights, while they still may be unprofitable in the winter, needed to remain year round.
There was certainly something to do with labor. My memory is hazy, but I thought United did something about the handling in ANC?
But that was after they had made it seasonal, so maybe that's the wrong version of it. So many facts to try and retain in this poor ol' brain.
Uadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7762 times:
UA announced the seasonal change in ANC before getting their ducks in the water and in a straight line, UA was ground handling HA and HA kept them to their contract which was due to expire sometime this past feb. the other issue which i was told by some local anc ua employees was that no one wanted to work the flights for what UA wanted to pay and in the end it was actually cheaper to keep the year around service with ua employees.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4746 posts, RR: 15 Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7566 times:
I wonder if UA will keep the Sat-only HNL flights from SAN and SEA this fall/winter? They still mystify me; assuming they are more-or-less Pleasant "charters" and the contract includes enough fuel surcharges, I guess they will remain...
777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2409 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7522 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter): Hopefully I'll be able to come up with a city-pair summary in the next few days highlighting the specific changes.
Yes, please do! Interesting that they'll be dropping some UAX flights as well - I thought that if anything, they'd up some UAX frequencies to keep compensate for some of the 737s they plan to park. Subbing a RJ or E-jet for a 737 still reduces capacity and dumps the older frames but allows them to stay in the fight on some routes. I guess we'll see how it pans out.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4746 posts, RR: 15 Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7248 times:
Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 10): It looks like the last SAN-HNL is scheduled to operate on August 16th. The flight shows discontinued after that date. I don't see any SEA-HNL flights listed this summer
Not only have those Sat-only HNL flights operated with "gaps" of non-operation, but the 2 markets (SAN and SEA) have been run rather differently from each other. There have been gaps in the fall and the spring, (e.g., neither flight is op'ing right now but SAN re-starts 6/7), the SAN flights change time of operation rather dramatically between "summer" and "winter" (6-ish pm departure from SAN in the summer and noon-ish departure in the winter; return flights have always been red-eyes in both markets). And, as 'tristar says, it appears SEA-HNL is not returning... Very strange collection of flights.
Note to United Schedule Planning: this September might be a real good time to consider seriously re-entering the SAN-Hawaii market. Aloha is gone from the SAN-OGG market (well, of course, they are actually gone from EVERY market!) and HA is pulling their flight as well. This market has apparently supported 2 daily n/s year-round flights for a couple of years now and suddenly will have NONE... (And it wouldn't be a real stretch for you to consider getting back in the daily SAN-HNL market either!) Just a thought.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31155 posts, RR: 76 Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6708 times:
Also looks like BOS-LAX loses a flight.
It's amazing to see the effect that jetBlue has had on LAX-Boston service. It's down to just seven non-stops in the fall (and that's assuming AA keeps their fourth frequency, which is usually summer-only).
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4746 posts, RR: 15 Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5992 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 22): truly doubt it has anything to do with WN on DEN-FLL. These changes were decided before Thursday.
Well, of course WN decided to fly DEN-FLL before Thursday's announcement but I know what you mean.
With your VX statement, I would not be surprised if WN now moved up their (expected) SFO-DEN inaugural flights...
Wow, talk about VX jumping feet first into the fire -- DEN! I know, I know: niche market for VX, different passengers targeted... But still. (Especially if they are planning, as you say, more than just SF/LA-DEN, but flying east from Denver as well!) And all of this with oil heading for $150/barrel!!!!