Jpax From United States, joined Aug 2006, 788 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 19178 times:
Either that was a really bad loop, or a really uncoordinated barrel roll...but then again, I don't know how an ATR performs under those conditions...Cool photos anyway!
Both appear to turning in every photo I saw. Hard to see the control position in some of the photos and difficult to judge the overall shape, but it looks fairly well executed.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 5687 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 18358 times:
Quoting 2H4 (Reply 4): I'd say it would be wise to avoid aerobatics completely in an aircraft not certified for aerobatic flight....
Agree, it seems a little irresponsible. Even if the risk is minimal, you're still putting a multi-million $$ aircraft at some increased risk, and if something did happen I think your insurance company would have a valid reasons for refusing to pay for any damage that resulted.
As someone else asked but no answer yet, was this during an airshow? I can't see any spectators in the photos. What were the circumstances?
Also, why doesn't the ATR-42 have an airline name? The only markings seem to be the registration. And the rest of the livery doesn't seem to match other photos of Cimber Air aircraft.
Saab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1118 posts, RR: 6 Reply 15, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 18292 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13): Agree, it seems a little irresponsible. Even if the risk is minimal, you're still putting a multi-million $$ aircraft at some increased risk, and if something did happen I think your insurance company would have a valid reasons for refusing to pay for any damage that resulted.
Typisch Schwyzer.....
1G roll. No biggie. The CRJ would do that so fast and so smoothly at night in the clouds that nobody would even spill their drink or even notice it was a bit more than a bumpy in the clouds...... Not that I would advocate it.....
The SAAB2000 not so easily. Dump truck with wings. But a stable dump truck with wings.
I have flown my CRJ with a former Raytheon test pilot and the stories he tells me would make folks' hair stand on end. Airliners can stand FAR FAR FAR more than most people ever have to actually do with them. ;
Planespotting From United States, joined Apr 2004, 2599 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 18256 times:
Quoting 2H4 (Reply 4): I'd say it would be wise to avoid aerobatics completely in an aircraft not certified for aerobatic flight.... Wink
Especially at low level like that...
Despite the fact that the aircraft could take it, performing such a maneuver at that low of an altitude just seems insane. At least Tex Johnston was at like 25,000 feet when he rolled the Dash 80 in 1955.
2H4 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 6677 posts, RR: 51 Reply 19, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 18154 times:
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Quoting AirPortugal310 (Reply 16): it seems like most of you are just the "I want to sit down in a cockpit for hours on end doing nothing" type.
If it's my certificate on the line, you're damn skippy I'd want to avoid unauthorized maneuvers.
Don't get me wrong...I would have loved to have been there, and I'd love to be able to see this kind of stuff on a daily basis. In reply #1, however, TwinOtter4Ever mentioned wisdom....and cool as the CEOs antics may have been, there's nothing wise about rolling an ATR, particularly at low altitude.
Lowrider From United States, joined Jun 2004, 1784 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 18046 times:
Quoting 2H4 (Reply 19): there's nothing wise about rolling an ATR, particularly at low altitude.
True, but that won't stop me from enjoying the nice pictures that resulted. Lets not rule out that the CEO may have a background or special training that make him more qualified than most to perform this, such as aerobatics or military. Bob Hoover used to do a similar trick with his Commander, except he did it with both engines feathered. With proper energy management and coordination, it doesn't stress the airframe excessively. The gyros will almost certainly suffer. In the US, of course, he would probably face certificate action because I am fairly certain the ATR is not certified for aerobatic flight.
YVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 482 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 17946 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 13): Also, why doesn't the ATR-42 have an airline name? The only markings seem to be the registration. And the rest of the livery doesn't seem to match other photos of Cimber Air aircraft.
It was leased to Oman Air as A40-AM. Seems it has now been returned and had titles removed, but no repaint. Maybe he was trying to shake the sand out of the cracks.............
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Not that I would advocate it..... 
