Quote: A quarter of operators of older Boeing 777s have purchased a new performance improvement package that should boost the widebody airliner's fuel efficiency by 1%.
Boeing has officially launched the package for 777-200/200ER/300 models (dubbed "Classics") with orders for 139 aircraft from "at least seven" carriers, including launch customers Air New Zealand, Continental Airlines and Delta Air Lines. Boeing also confirms that Austrian Airlines, El Al and KLM have ordered upgrades for their 777 Classics.
Entry into service is targeted for early 2009 after Boeing completes a certification programme.
KrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 999 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10021 times:
Most of KL 's B777 are only one to three years old.
I was under the impression that Boeing continuously upgrades their designs as they are manufactured so every aircraft that rolls of the assembly line is up-to-date.
Lemurs From United States, joined Mar 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9235 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 5): GE also offers their own PiP for the earlier GE90 engines found on these planes
CO has already rolled the GE PiP improvements across their whole 772ER fleet, so this is additional benefit on top of it.
(From what I can tell, the GE90 PiP involves bringing all older GE90-90s, 84s, etc...up to GE90-94Bs, and then some improvements that went out about a year after the 94B itself was certified.)
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Tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 3156 posts, RR: 24 Reply 14, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8993 times:
Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 10): I was under the impression that Boeing continuously upgrades their designs as they are manufactured so every aircraft that rolls of the assembly line is up-to-date.
That's true. Any time any of the OEM's releases a service bulletin to correct something in the fleet, they usually roll the correction into production as well. There are also some upgrades that some in at production that aren't retrofitable. Both kinds of upgrades happen throughout the life of a program.
Quoting Cricket (Reply 3):
who is the seventh? AF or SQ?
Any chance UA will update their 777 fleet? If any T7s deserve the label "classic," it's UAs!
I would hope so... they have so many of them. Maybe they could get the MTOW numbers on their 772ER's taken up too (no mechanical changes needed)... no good reason for them not to.
Some of their 777-200s are old, but some are fairly new as well. In terms of the shape they are in, they are far from the least modern and pleasant 777-200s flying around.
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ConcordeBoy From United States, joined Feb 2001, 18128 posts, RR: 76 Reply 18, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6906 times:
Quoting Lemurs (Reply 11): From what I can tell, the GE90 PiP involves bringing all older GE90-90s, 84s, etc...up to GE90-94Bs
No it doesn't... it "just" involves installing the 3D-Aero and equivalent support infrastructure. The airline is still free to choose the thrust output, and for a while, CO continued to op its PiPed engines at 90K before bringing them up.
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Siren From United States, joined Aug 2006, 233 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6396 times:
Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 15): Maybe they could get the MTOW numbers on their 772ER's taken up too (no mechanical changes needed)... no good reason for them not to.
Airport landing fees charge based on the rated weight of a given aircraft. I'm guessing UA is saving money by going this route.
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