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Which F9 Aircraft Have Been Sold?  
User currently offlineGoDIA From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 97 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2940 times:

Sorry if this has been discussed earlier, but I didn't find anything so here goes...

We all know F9 has had to retrench some, and they have sold several aircraft...one is the A318 with Grizwald. Does anyone know which aircraft (tail numbers) they have unloaded? And, are these planes gone already or still in service?

Just curious. Thanks.


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User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

Two in May and the other two in August.

N801FR
N804FR
N917FR
N909FR

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3896014/


User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2854 times:

Griswold is back on a 319. Yesterday on here there was a thread with a new (or repainted) 319 or 320 with a mountain goat named "Colorado". I still haven't seen anything in the Denver Post about it though, but a great picture on the previous thread.

I'm still trying to figure out if they can get rid of four planes, but add one.

BTW F9's pax numbers are doing quite well again, most of it due to Lynx. Also an interesting article by Al Lewis in Sunday's paper about the credit card company and F9 and the subsequent Chapter 11.



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User currently offlineYtib From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2818 times:



Quoting Xtoler (Reply 2):
I'm still trying to figure out if they can get rid of four planes, but add one.

They sold 2 319's and 2 318's but added the 2 320's.

Quoting Xtoler (Reply 2):
I still haven't seen anything in the Denver Post about it though, but a great picture on the previous thread.

Didn't see anything in the Post, but the RMN had the following article. Also of the news stations were there.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...2/frontier-dedicates-colorado-jet/

Quoting Xtoler (Reply 2):
Also an interesting article by Al Lewis in Sunday's paper about the credit card company and F9 and the subsequent Chapter 11.

Agreed, here is the link for others interested.

http://www.denverpost.com/popular/ci_9213805


User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2794 times:

Griz took the place of Todd the Wombat...My regards to the Wombat lovers out there.


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User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2756 times:



Quoting Ytib (Reply 3):
They sold 2 319's and 2 318's but added the 2 320's.

Okay, that makes sense. Who's going on the second 320? Or did I miss out on that one?

Oh, man, I forgot about Todd the Wombat. Ironically, I've never seen him DEN, but I'm trying to remember which outstation I saw him at. I just remember we were somewhere outside of our wee 145 sneaking a smoke somewhere and one of the guys I was flying with was asking me,"What kind of animal is that?" "Dude, it's either a rabid ground hog or a wombat. Huh, I thought wombats were only in Tasmania, now I'm really looking forward to moving to CO."

As a side note, I've yet to see a wombat, but this is the first time I've seen snow in May! Springtime in the Rockies, indeed! At least the weekend is supposed to be nice. I used to bitch about the weather when I was stationed in England, but WTF is this? Wear shorts one day, get snowed on the next.

BTW I'm looking for more TV ads for F9 to send to my Mom. The newest one about why there are no cows on F9 is hilarious. My mom works for the Virgina Department of Game and Inland Fisheries and she gets a kick out of the commercials when her and Dad come to visit. I'm having some problems locating any on Youtube.



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User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2714 times:

The second A-320, N202FR, is Colorado the Rocky Mountain Big Horn Sheep.

This is the plane that they officially named yesterday. Frontier held a news conference at DIA with the governor.



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User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

Stupid question, but how did they come up with the 202 part of the tail number? I guess I'm pretty lame, but I never followed the series of the numbers. So is it really a new aircraft?


EMB145 F/A, F/E, J41 F/A, F/E, because my wife clipped my wings, armchair captain
User currently offlineA330300 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

202 is the second A320 in the fleet...the 319s have a 9xxFR sequence, 318s have 8xxFR, and 320s 2XXFR.

User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25687 posts, RR: 85
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2636 times:
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Quoting Xtoler (Reply 5):
Oh, man, I forgot about Todd the Wombat. Ironically, I've never seen him DEN, but I'm trying to remember which outstation I saw him at.

A wombat? Mate, there's no wombat on any Frontier tail. All the critters are North American.

FYI, here's the full list, with pix of each one:

http://www.lockonaviation.net/html/frontierairlines.html

Also FYI:

Quoting Xtoler (Reply 2):
BTW F9's pax numbers are doing quite well again, most of it due to Lynx.

The veyr high l/f's and pax numbers are very little to do with Lynx. In March, Frontier carried more than 1 million pax for the month, for the first time, and then again in April.

Lynx did not begin its full ramp-up until mid-April.

mariner



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User currently offlineXtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2590 times:



Quoting Mariner (Reply 9):
A wombat? Mate, there's no wombat on any Frontier tail. All the critters are North American.

FYI, here's the full list, with pix of each one:

I wondered why there would be a Wombat on there? But where's the rabid ground hog? Man, what was I smoking that day? Where's Perry the Possum at? He'd be pretty popular on the Southern runs. Just got to make sure he doesn't get run over on the way from DEN to ATL. Thanks for the pix. Pretty sad when someone from NZ has to correct me. Thanks for setting me straight, bud. Thanks Mariner. Why do I have a feeling I was looking at the Otter that day? If I saw a duck billed patypus I'd really be screwed! With my eyesight, now I know why I was a flight attendant and not a commercial pilot, or time to get my eyes checked.

Quoting A330300 (Reply 8):
202 is the second A320 in the fleet...the 319s have a 9xxFR sequence, 318s have 8xxFR, and 320s 2XXFR

Thanks on that. Now I see the method to the madness. In the USAF at least with MAC aircraft it was first two numbers was the last two numbers of the year and I think something to do with a production number.



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User currently offlineMcg From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 828 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

Let the record show that 937 is "Mariner"; always was and always will be Smile!!

User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2361 times:



Quoting Mariner (Reply 9):
Lynx did not begin its full ramp-up until mid-April.

How so? I'm pretty sure they were flying a full schedule as of early February with flights being added every month or so.

Also, I haven't read anything saying the Lynx numbers are being reported separately or if they are included in the increased numbers.



"A pilot's plane she is. She will love you if you deserve it, and try to kill you if you don't...She is the Mighty Q400"
User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25687 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2343 times:
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Quoting TheGreatChecko (Reply 12):
How so? I'm pretty sure they were flying a full schedule as of early February with flights being added every month or so.

Lynx was only flying about half of its eventual schedule in February. COS began mid-April, DRO and ASE a few days later. GJT began on May 1.

Quoting TheGreatChecko (Reply 12):
Also, I haven't read anything saying the Lynx numbers are being reported separately or if they are included in the increased numbers.

In the published monthly traffic reports, Lynx numbers are reported separately.

mariner



aeternum nauta
User currently onlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5120 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2312 times:



Quoting Ytib (Reply 3):
Agreed, here is the link for others interested.

http://www.denverpost.com/popular/ci...13805

Capellas from First Data sounds like a real piece of work. I can't believe how he says, "We treat our customers in a very clear manner," Capellas said in response to my question about Frontier.

That statement alone sounds communist. Wow, glad he is not a CSA in the airline industry. Sounds like he needs to be treated in a very clear manner. Oh well, I have learned alot about his background from the article. He sounds like he treats his employees like dog poop. What more would you expect on how he treats his customers?



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25687 posts, RR: 85
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2302 times:
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Quoting Mcg (Reply 11):
Let the record show that 937 is "Mariner"; always was and always will be !!

Yay!  wave 

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 14):
He sounds like he treats his employees like dog poop. What more would you expect on how he treats his customers?

There's an interesting response to that article, F9Animal, also in the Denver Post:

http://blogs.denverpost.com/lewis/20...dnt-have-to-pull-plug-on-frontier/

"They failed to see it from the client’s point of view and failed to find a way to accomplish their goal of minimizing risk. In addition, assuming that they wanted to keep Frontier as a profit-producing client, they failed there too. I am just guessing here that Frontier will not use them for credit card processing when all of this blows over. Now First Data has put itself in the worst financial position possible – the client filing Bankruptcy."

There has been a huge negative reaction Capellas in Denver - in large part but not entirely - because of the Frontier situation. I guess Capellas is responding to that.

mariner



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User currently offlineTripleboom From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 278 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2205 times:

My wife and I will be trying to hitch a ride on "Mariner" tomorrow evening to OMA! You got a few open seats for us Davey?

User currently offlineAlphascan From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 937 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2162 times:



Quoting Mcg (Reply 11):
Let the record show that 937 is "Mariner"; always was and always will be !!

Here! Here! I'll drink to that!



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User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2104 times:



Quoting Mariner (Reply 13):
Lynx was only flying about half of its eventual schedule in February. COS began mid-April, DRO and ASE a few days later. GJT began on May 1.

But weren't those aircraft pulled off of OKC, ABQ, TUL and ELP? The schedule has changed, but they have been feeding traffic from other cities for quite a while.

I guess I just find it difficult to believe the increased/record numbers had nothing to do with the Lynx flying and additional feed.



"A pilot's plane she is. She will love you if you deserve it, and try to kill you if you don't...She is the Mighty Q400"
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