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Helicopter Crashes, Killing 4 In BC  
User currently offlineAF340 From Canada, joined Jul 2007, 2786 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2221 times:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...r_crash_080513/20080513?hub=Canada



RIP to the victims



I don't want to speculate but I wonder what the reason was?



Liam spin 

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User currently offlinePiskoto From Cyprus, joined Nov 2006, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

There is something about a pedestrian which I don't get it...
 duck   stirthepot 


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2162 times:

Know it's somewhat paranoid... but always been frightful of helicopters, or any aircraft with a single engine.

User currently offlineAF340 From Canada, joined Jul 2007, 2786 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2145 times:



Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 2):
but always been frightful of helicopters, or any aircraft with a single engine.

Well, I too have always been a little suspious of helicopters, mainly because they don't glide. I know you can do that thing that supposed to slow down the rate of descent but still. As for single-engine airplanes, at least they glide and a twin (GA Aircraft) is pretty damn hard to handle with an engine out.



Liam spin 


User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1647 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

A terrible tragedy. Cranbrook has felt the pain of aviation disasters before, the worst in February of 1978 when a Pacific Western 737-200 crashed on a second attempted landing in heavy snow.

Condolences to all involved, may the victims RIP.



AC.WA.CP.DL.RW.CO.WG.WJ.WN.KI.FL.SK.ACL.UA.US.F9
User currently offlineHapppyLandings From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2069 times:



Quoting AF340 (Reply 3):
and a twin (GA Aircraft) is pretty damn hard to handle with an engine out.



Liam

Not really, I am working on my multi, and I have done a few landings on one engine... Not that difficult, just lots of rudder coordination you usually dont do. But rudder trim helps out with that.


User currently offlineAF340 From Canada, joined Jul 2007, 2786 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2052 times:



Quoting HapppyLandings (Reply 5):
Not that difficult, just lots of rudder coordination you usually dont do. But rudder trim helps out with that.

Really, I've heard you have to be quite strong to handle the aileron compensation. Well, I guess if that's not the case, better for me.  Smile




Liam spin 


User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2469 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

It was a Bell 206 Jet Ranger operated by Bighorn Helicopters of Cranbrook, reg will either be C-FBHR or C-GCHE, so far Bighorn have not released any further information.


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User currently offlineHapppyLandings From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1994 times:



Quoting AF340 (Reply 6):
Really, I've heard you have to be quite strong to handle the aileron compensation

No, not that much really... If you can fly a 152 competently you can make a 1 engine landing in a twin... A tad more difficult, but after all flying a plane is not that hard... Most people can do it quite well  Smile


Once some strong winds and adverse conditions come into play it is a different story of course....


User currently offlineThreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2136 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1967 times:



Quoting AF340 (Reply 3):
Well, I too have always been a little suspious of helicopters, mainly because they don't glide. I know you can do that thing that supposed to slow down the rate of descent but still.

Helicopters certainly do glide - they just have a steeper rate of descent. "That thing" is called autorotation, which uses the inertia in the spinning blades to allow the aircraft to descend in a controllable manner. In the landing flare, the collective lever (controls the pitch of the blades) is pulled to slow the descent and allow the helicopter a soft(ish) landing.
The nice thing about helicopters in an engine-out scenario is the number of landing spots is often far more than a fixed-wing aircraft in the same situation.

Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 4):
Cranbrook has felt the pain of aviation disasters before

Five years ago, a L-188 airtanker crashed 6 km south of town during an aerial wildfire suppression mission, killing two.

Quoting HapppyLandings (Reply 8):
Once some strong winds and adverse conditions come into play it is a different story of course....

Not so much concerning strength. I'm sure you could handle the physical load with ease. It's proper control coordination that's the tricky part for many.



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