Bentley55 From Panama, joined Mar 2008, 99 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5614 times:
I will be flying from PTY to CDG via AMS on June 18 in Business and i would like to know if its possible to know before hand if the aircraft i will fly already has the new WBC and AVOD? Is there a website I can check?
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16824 posts, RR: 57 Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5423 times:
Seatguru says that there are PTV's in J class. Doesn't say if that's AVOD.
AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 15 Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5394 times:
I was under the impression that most of the MD-11 fleet, if not all, had been upgraded to feature the new WBC seats and the new Y seats minus AVOD and PTVs.
Last time I checked one MD-11 had been installed with AVOD in Y.
ASMD11 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 108 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5303 times:
This is from the KLM website, but it only talks about upgrades to the 747s in J and a generic statement of 12 video and audio cha
Quoting ,: Entertainment aboard KLM's Boeing 747 and MD11 aircraft
World Business Class
With a personal screen at every seat, you can choose your own entertainment. You have a choice of hit films, television programs and a wide range of music available on 12 video and 12 audio channels. At this time, our fleet of Boeing 747s is being updated. Starting in the summer of 2008, seats in World Business Class in this fleet will feature a personal screen and an interactive entertainment system with films, television, games, and text messaging and e-mail services. The four new programs listed above will also become available at that time.
Economy Class
Enjoy hit films, popular television series, news and documentaries on a large screen. Rather listen to music? Then choose from 12 specially programmed audio channels giving you a range of musical styles. At the end of 2008, the entertainment system in the MD11s, including seats in Economy Class, will be updated to provide a personal screen with an on-demand video system, games, text messaging and e-mail services, and the three new programs listed above.
JRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4598 posts, RR: 51 Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5079 times:
Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 4):
Last time I checked one MD-11 had been installed with AVOD in Y.
I haven't heard anything to suggest otherwise. I'll be able to tell you more in a weeks time as I have 6 MD-11 stretches coming up (3 different aircraft)
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HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4414 posts, RR: 76 Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4720 times:
Quoting Bentley55 (Reply 8): how many KLM MD-11s have had the new WBC installed?
By the latest count, just 3 of 10 aircraft have had the new seats installed. They are PH-KCA, PH-KCB and PH-KCG. All of the other aircraft are still with the old WBC seats and ditto entertainment system, yet have the new 24-seat WBC cabin configuration. KLM rotates all of its MD11 aircraft throughout the network, so it is your best guess whether your flight will feature the new seats and entertainment system. Do make sure you get yourself a seat in the first WBC cabin, which contains rows 1 and 2 and which is s haven of privacy nowhere else found in KLM's longhaul fleet.
As a side note, 20 out of 22 B747s have now been reconfigured with the new seats. Only PH-BFF and PH-BFK remain in old configuration and these aircraft will undergo a D-check and cabin retrofit over the summer.
The KLM MD11 fleet if often plagued by technical issues and its dispatch reliability is not all that great. You may check out a daily overview of KLM longhaul operation, including aircraft registrations, in this thread.
HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4414 posts, RR: 76 Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 4474 times:
To give you an idea that KLM does not assign specific aircraft to specific routes, here is a list of the MD11s that have been deployed on the AMS PTY route since it was launched on March 30:
Bentley55 From Panama, joined Mar 2008, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4321 times:
Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 9): By the latest count, just 3 of 10 aircraft have had the new seats installed. They are PH-KCA, PH-KCB and PH-KCG. All of the other aircraft are still with the old WBC seats and ditto entertainment system, yet have the new 24-seat WBC cabin configuration. KLM rotates all of its MD11 aircraft throughout the network, so it is your best guess whether your flight will feature the new seats and entertainment system. Do make sure you get yourself a seat in the first WBC cabin, which contains rows 1 and 2 and which is s haven of privacy nowhere else found in KLM's longhaul fleet.
As a side note, 20 out of 22 B747s have now been reconfigured with the new seats. Only PH-BFF and PH-BFK remain in old configuration and these aircraft will undergo a D-check and cabin retrofit over the summer.
The KLM MD11 fleet if often plagued by technical issues and its dispatch reliability is not all that great. You may check out a daily overview of KLM longhaul operation, including aircraft registrations, in this thread.
Thanks a lot for the information. Which seats are more comfortable for sleeping, the new WBC or the older version?
HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4414 posts, RR: 76 Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4253 times:
Quoting Bentley55 (Reply 11): Which seats are more comfortable for sleeping, the new WBC or the older version?
I much prefer the older seats for sleeping but if you are an inflight entertainment buff, you will be disappointed with the old system. The new IFE is top notch.
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