LeftCoaster From Cayman Islands, joined Nov 2007, 77 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6085 times:
Cayman Airways is about to purchae two Saab 2000 Turbo-Props to add to their fleet of 737's and Twin Otters. The planes will initially be used on the Cayman Brac - Miami route, but may be used to link GCM with Southern Florida as well.
No, they are currently flying 2 737-300's and 1 737-200 as well as their twin-otters. They were supposed to have a third -300 up & flying, but the deivery date was pushed back a bit. I'm not 100% sure when it will arrive.
Albird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6014 times:
Quoting United_Fan (Reply 1): I heard they were down to 2 732's and added a 733 or 734.
We use to have 3 732s and two 733s in the fleet but as the 732s have reached their limits so are off to the graveyard! we have one 732 left at the moment and now 3 733s (one 733 is currently in Costa Rica getting ready for service into KX).
However these Saabs are too huge for the routes that KX have planned for them! This again is the government thinking that there is the demand for the use of these big aircraft! Saab 340s would of been a way better fit for these routes.
If these aircraft are going to be used also to replace the Twin otters on the intra island routes then we would already see an incrase in seats on every flight by 30! looking around an xtra 150 seats for this route! These Twin otters normally go out full but i doubt the demand for these flights is enough to have an extra 30 seats!
Mastermis From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2008, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5756 times:
Quoting Albird87 (Reply 7): No thats IBCs Saab 340 that DHL, Sprint and UPS use. Fedex use the other IBC merlin.
Those aircraft arrive here around 10:30-11 and are stay on the ground till 5-6. from monday to friday.
There were no IBC/company markings on it ; it was completely white. It was parked right near the exit to the runway. We talking about the same plane?
Albird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5736 times:
Quoting Mastermis (Reply 8): There were no IBC/company markings on it ; it was completely white. It was parked right near the exit to the runway. We talking about the same plane?
IBC planes are white and with blue tails. However as I am off to work at 2pm i will check our movements for you and get back to you.
We had a Dash 7 in here yesterday for a fuel stop but thats the only thing i can think of thats been that big enough really on our ramp this week!
LeftCoaster From Cayman Islands, joined Nov 2007, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5443 times:
Ya guys I saw the Dash there last night too ( I biked over to the airport catch Speedbird taking off), so I'm pretty sure that's the plane in question. All white with a slight colour marking on the tail (not sure of the colour...it was dusk)
Caymanair From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2004, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5315 times:
I think this is a very bad move. I'm not completely clear on what arrangements have been made, nor am I an expert on the Saab, so if there is anything I have wrong let me know!
Saab 2000s were not very popular and there are VERY few aircraft in commercial operation at the moment...how easy/ economical will it be to source parts and train crew?
But I don't think it is a good idea to operate an additional type at all. Firstly, I know for a fact that the two twin otters are under utilized most of the day and have alot of down time. When one of the twin otters was out due to engine trouble a couple weeks ago, there were very few schedule adjustments needed for a 2/3 day period. If they could simply replace the the 2 twin otters with 3 Saab 340s, Dash 8-200s, or Dash 8-300s it might be more economical. Those 3 aircraft could easily serve the interisland routes as well as CYB-MIA/KIN and some GCM routes. Of course, KX would have to wait on the Bodden Field to be upgraded. It seems like a ridiculous waste of funds to have 2 aircraft just to serve Little Cayman and another two to serve Cayman Brac when the demand simply doesnt warrant it. While waiting on Bodden Field, if government really feels it must provide voters in CYB with direct service to the US, then they can operate a once of twice weekly GCM-CYB-MIA. When VP-CWK returns from Costa Rica and the next 733 arrives, Cayman Airways should have enough aircraft to make that happen without shelling out lots of cash they dont have.
This is one occaision where I truly hope that Government is being smart and paying lipservice (but not much else) to Bracers.... they dont have any cash anyway.