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User currently offlineLeftCoaster From Cayman Islands, joined Nov 2007, 77 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5437 times:

Cayman Airways is about to purchae two Saab 2000 Turbo-Props to add to their fleet of 737's and Twin Otters. The planes will initially be used on the Cayman Brac - Miami route, but may be used to link GCM with Southern Florida as well.



http://caycompass.com/cgi-bin/CFPnews.cgi?ID=1030706

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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7494 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5407 times:

I heard they were down to 2 732's and added a 733 or 734.


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User currently offlineLeftCoaster From Cayman Islands, joined Nov 2007, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5381 times:



Quoting United_Fan (Reply 1):

No, they are currently flying 2 737-300's and 1 737-200 as well as their twin-otters. They were supposed to have a third -300 up & flying, but the deivery date was pushed back a bit. I'm not 100% sure when it will arrive.


User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1469 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5376 times:

Where are the Saab's coming from? The article mention new Saab 2000's but the production was shut down in 1999

/Lars



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User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5366 times:



Quoting United_Fan (Reply 1):
I heard they were down to 2 732's and added a 733 or 734.

nope
We use to have 3 732s and two 733s in the fleet but as the 732s have reached their limits so are off to the graveyard! we have one 732 left at the moment and now 3 733s (one 733 is currently in Costa Rica getting ready for service into KX).

However these Saabs are too huge for the routes that KX have planned for them! This again is the government thinking that there is the demand for the use of these big aircraft! Saab 340s would of been a way better fit for these routes.
If these aircraft are going to be used also to replace the Twin otters on the intra island routes then we would already see an incrase in seats on every flight by 30! looking around an xtra 150 seats for this route! These Twin otters normally go out full but i doubt the demand for these flights is enough to have an extra 30 seats!


User currently offlineLeftCoaster From Cayman Islands, joined Nov 2007, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5333 times:



Quoting Larshjort (Reply 3):

I believe KX is getting em' from a private company in the U.S.


User currently offlineMastermis From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2008, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5136 times:

I saw something that looked like a SAAB 2000 (It was not an ATR or Dash-8) parked in the private jet area Tuesday & Wednesday. Could that be one of them already?

User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5130 times:



Quoting Mastermis (Reply 6):
I saw something that looked like a SAAB 2000 (It was not an ATR or Dash-8) parked in the private jet area Tuesday & Wednesday. Could that be one of them already?

No thats IBCs Saab 340 that DHL, Sprint and UPS use. Fedex use the other IBC merlin.
Those aircraft arrive here around 10:30-11 and are stay on the ground till 5-6. from monday to friday.


User currently offlineMastermis From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2008, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5108 times:



Quoting Albird87 (Reply 7):
No thats IBCs Saab 340 that DHL, Sprint and UPS use. Fedex use the other IBC merlin.
Those aircraft arrive here around 10:30-11 and are stay on the ground till 5-6. from monday to friday.

There were no IBC/company markings on it ; it was completely white. It was parked right near the exit to the runway. We talking about the same plane?  Smile


User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5088 times:



Quoting Mastermis (Reply 8):
There were no IBC/company markings on it ; it was completely white. It was parked right near the exit to the runway. We talking about the same plane?

IBC planes are white and with blue tails. However as I am off to work at 2pm i will check our movements for you and get back to you.
We had a Dash 7 in here yesterday for a fuel stop but thats the only thing i can think of thats been that big enough really on our ramp this week!


User currently offlineMastermis From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2008, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5068 times:



Quoting Albird87 (Reply 9):
We had a Dash 7 in here yesterday for a fuel stop

could have been that then! It was not the IBC plane, I am positive of that.

Cheers

M.


User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4887 times:



Quoting Mastermis (Reply 10):


Quoting Albird87 (Reply 9):
We had a Dash 7 in here yesterday for a fuel stop

could have been that then! It was not the IBC plane, I am positive of that.

Well just looking at our movements, we have had nothing really in here this week so im guessing the aircraft you saw was the DHC-7

Also Matermis WELCOME to ANET my fellow caymanian (or resident atm of the cayman islands!)


User currently offlineLeftCoaster From Cayman Islands, joined Nov 2007, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4795 times:

Ya guys I saw the Dash there last night too ( I biked over to the airport catch Speedbird taking off), so I'm pretty sure that's the plane in question. All white with a slight colour marking on the tail (not sure of the colour...it was dusk)

And yes....Welcome fellow Grand Caymaniac!


User currently offlineMastermis From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2008, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4782 times:



Quoting LeftCoaster (Reply 12):
All white with a slight colour marking on the tail (not sure of the colour...it was dusk)

Yeah thats it  Smile Thanks for the welcomes! Been living here for 16 months now ; wonderful place to be.

M.


User currently offlineCaymanair From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2004, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4667 times:

I think this is a very bad move. I'm not completely clear on what arrangements have been made, nor am I an expert on the Saab, so if there is anything I have wrong let me know!

Saab 2000s were not very popular and there are VERY few aircraft in commercial operation at the moment...how easy/ economical will it be to source parts and train crew?

But I don't think it is a good idea to operate an additional type at all. Firstly, I know for a fact that the two twin otters are under utilized most of the day and have alot of down time. When one of the twin otters was out due to engine trouble a couple weeks ago, there were very few schedule adjustments needed for a 2/3 day period. If they could simply replace the the 2 twin otters with 3 Saab 340s, Dash 8-200s, or Dash 8-300s it might be more economical. Those 3 aircraft could easily serve the interisland routes as well as CYB-MIA/KIN and some GCM routes. Of course, KX would have to wait on the Bodden Field to be upgraded. It seems like a ridiculous waste of funds to have 2 aircraft just to serve Little Cayman and another two to serve Cayman Brac when the demand simply doesnt warrant it. While waiting on Bodden Field, if government really feels it must provide voters in CYB with direct service to the US, then they can operate a once of twice weekly GCM-CYB-MIA. When VP-CWK returns from Costa Rica and the next 733 arrives, Cayman Airways should have enough aircraft to make that happen without shelling out lots of cash they dont have.

This is one occaision where I truly hope that Government is being smart and paying lipservice (but not much else) to Bracers.... they dont have any cash anyway.


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2345 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

Hey how about some new 73NG's or perhaps A320s for the Cayman airline? I am sure they can put them to use for routes into and out of its nice country.


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User currently offlineCaymanair From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2004, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

By the way, for those of you new to a.net, go to the Caribbean/Caribe/Caraibes 35 Thread http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3979810/ for more regular discussion about Cayman Airways and other Caribbean carriers

User currently offlineSurfrider1978 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

when I saw this thread I was hoping they were ordering some 73G's. I guess i can keep dreaming.

User currently offlineCaymanair From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2004, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4577 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 15):
Hey how about some new 73NG's or perhaps A320s for the Cayman airline? I am sure they can put them to use for routes into and out of its nice country.

If you have hundreds of million of dollars lying around that you would like to donate to the cause, I'm sure they would gladly accept...

A319s would be perfect for them, in my opinion.


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2345 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4558 times:



Quoting Caymanair (Reply 18):
If you have hundreds of million of dollars lying around that you would like to donate to the cause, I'm sure they would gladly accept...

A319s would be perfect for them, in my opinion.

Although I do not have a Millions of Dollars the only thing I can do is provide a drawing I did a few months ago, Ironically its an A319 in the old color scheme:


Modified Airliner Photos:
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Design © RP Abraham
Template © Bobby Catone



note: I am the one who drew the livery and RP did the template.



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