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Sukhoi Superjet 100 Rejected Yet Very Cool Livery

EYKD From Russia, joined Dec 2006, 159 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10001 times:

Yesterday I attended presentation of Russian Industrial Design Bureau Astra Rossa. It was dedicated to Sukhoi Superjet 100 roll-out livery project. The presentation included a couple of livery projects that was rejected. Take a look at this one with Sukhoi Su-27 fighter silhouette.

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As said this livery was very warmly welcomed but finally rejected due to its explicit military motifs.

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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 18610 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9969 times:

Quoting EYKD (Thread starter):
As said this livery was very warmly welcomed but finally rejected due to its explicit military motifs.

Well, yeah, I would say so. They can't do that livery no matter what, even if Russia is re-militarizing. It just conveys the image of the old Soviet war machine and makes customers think this is a program based on military thinking, and all the SNAFUs that go with that mindset.

Why not paint palm trees and kittens on it. That's friendly! And no, not war kittens.

Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.

Alberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2099 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9969 times:

Quoting EYKD (Thread starter):
rejected due to its explicit military motifs

What's so military about the livery ???

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Vasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2971 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9963 times:

Hmm... not too bad, though I don't think its anything amazing. I didn't see the fighter outline at first...

RichM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 631 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9958 times:

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I don't like it at all. Why would they want to portray it to be something that it isn't?

AviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 506 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9766 times:

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Quoting Alberchico (Reply 2):
What's so military about the livery ???

Are you serious? Possibly the big fighter jet painted on the side....

Pyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 2436 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9619 times:

Nice livery. I wonder if that is thw actual size of the Su-27 compared to the RRJ or resized somewhat.

Quoting RichM (Reply 4):
I don't like it at all. Why would they want to portray it to be something that it isn't?

You mean like the SAAB commercials we see on TV?

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Cc2314 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9586 times:

I think the plane looks pretty cool,

474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 3977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9538 times:

I though it was a shadow from a SU-27 flying in formation!

EYKD From Russia, joined Dec 2006, 159 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9476 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 6):
I wonder if that is the actual size of the Su-27 compared to the RRJ or resized somewhat

Hm-m, interesting. Taking into account that SSJ is around 30 meters long and Su-27 is around 22 meters long I would say that Su-27 silhouette is very close to its actual size.

Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 18610 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9364 times:

Wow, that Su-27 must have horrible CASM! And no RASM to speak of… Wink

Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.

Hypersonic From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7201 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10):
Wow, that Su-27 must have horrible CASM! And no RASM to speak of

CASM - ? RASM - ?

English please, not everyone here speaks in gobbledygook! Wink

*Gets reminded by that scene in Good Morning Vietnam, where Cronauer takes the piss out of acronyms*

Breiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1423 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7024 times:

Quoting Hypersonic (Reply 11):
CASM - ? RASM - ?

CASM: Cost per Available Seat-Mile
RASM: Revenue per Available Seat-Mile
Nice joke, Ikramerica

JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7024 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10):
Wow, that Su-27 must have horrible CASM! And no RASM to speak of…

Yeah, but you'd beat the afternoon rush at US Immigration ! What's the seat pitch like on an SU27 ?

Kaneporta1 From Greece, joined May 2005, 662 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6867 times:

The Su-27 looks pretty cool, but what's the deal with the Delta Widget on the tail?

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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 18610 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6703 times:

Quoting Hypersonic (Reply 11):
English please, not everyone here speaks in gobbledygook!

Most people on a.net speak rudimentary gobbledygook.

Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.

Andrej From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 713 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6664 times:

Quoting Kaneporta1 (Reply 14):
The Su-27 looks pretty cool, but what's the deal with the Delta Widget on the tail?

That is Sukhoi's logo:

there are other logos associated with Sukhoi, but they have similar shape.

Cheers,
Andrej wave

MQTmxguy From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6563 times:

Quoting EYKD (Thread starter):
As said this livery was very warmly welcomed but finally rejected due to its explicit military motifs.

yeah it does look cool, but Imagine a 737 with a F-15 plastered on it, or a Saab 340 with with the outline of a Viggen. It just seems kinda toolish for an airliner.

[Edited 2008-05-17 05:33:59]

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FlySSC From Lebanon, joined Aug 2003, 6411 posts, RR: 64
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 6160 times:

I kind of understand they rejected this livery : the "shadow" of a fighter jet painted on the fuselage of a commercial airliner is a very bad taste and could suffer many negative interpretations from customers.

I believe they did this because Sukhoi is much more famous for the "quality" of its fighters than its commercial aircraft ...

AvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 907 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5015 times:

The concept kind of reminds me of this internet classic. They really are both vans with sports cars on them when you think about it.

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Ravel From Finland, joined exactly 4 years ago today! , 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4889 times:

Quoting RichM (Reply 4):
I don't like it at all. Why would they want to portray it to be something that it isn't?

Because Su-27 is one of the most capable fighter planes ever built. It is Sukhoi's best known and most successful product to date. They would, of course, like to emphasize that Superjet 100 has a good performance and great avionics and so on.

That's almost the same as you had a Fiat that had a Ferrari F1 car silhouette in it. Maybe not proper, but it is obvious what it is trying to say.

GolfOscarDelta From India, joined Feb 2008, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4696 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Why not paint palm trees and kittens on it

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Those cartoon/comic characters are represantative of the cartoons from their respective countries i.e the US and Japan

May be the Russians should paint characters from their old Misha comics on the sides of russian aircraft

Not very good but nevertheless a pic of the good old Misha comics

Slavboro From Russia, joined Apr 2007, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4523 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18):
the "shadow" of a fighter jet painted on the fuselage of a commercial airliner is a very bad taste and could suffer many negative interpretations from customers

That why they rejected family disignation numbers 272 for their commercial planes. On the early stages of the project they considered these digits as good choice, reflected both - military background and Boeing - Sukhoi cooperation. But advisor made them refuse it.

Vald From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4329 times:

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 2):
What's so military about the livery ???

the big shadow of a fighter jet on the side of the aircraft, Maybe.

Hypersonic From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4096 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 15):
Quoting Hypersonic (Reply 11):
English please, not everyone here speaks in gobbledygook!

Most people on a.net speak rudimentary gobbledygook.

HEHEHE

DEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 3191 posts, RR: 2
Reply 25, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

Quoting Andrej (Reply 16):
there are other logos associated with Sukhoi, but they have similar shape.

The Cyrillic inspired logo minus the circle and arrow could, with a bit of tweaking, look more civilian and commercial. Goes to show how years of state control had stifled the development of Russian advertising. But I'm afraid even a reworking of that logo would just remind the West and Americans of Quicksilver or Cy Young. Smile

Better something totally fresh!

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