EYKD From Russia, joined Dec 2006, 188 posts, RR: 1 Posted (3 years 9 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 12237 times:
Yesterday I attended presentation of Russian Industrial Design Bureau Astra Rossa. It was dedicated to Sukhoi Superjet 100 roll-out livery project. The presentation included a couple of livery projects that was rejected. Take a look at this one with Sukhoi Su-27 fighter silhouette.
As said this livery was very warmly welcomed but finally rejected due to its explicit military motifs.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 20319 posts, RR: 62 Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 12205 times:
Quoting EYKD (Thread starter): As said this livery was very warmly welcomed but finally rejected due to its explicit military motifs.
Well, yeah, I would say so. They can't do that livery no matter what, even if Russia is re-militarizing. It just conveys the image of the old Soviet war machine and makes customers think this is a program based on military thinking, and all the SNAFUs that go with that mindset.
Why not paint palm trees and kittens on it. That's friendly! And no, not war kittens.
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Alberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2461 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 12205 times:
Quoting EYKD (Thread starter): rejected due to its explicit military motifs
What's so military about the livery ???
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AviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 537 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 12002 times:
Quoting Alberchico (Reply 2): What's so military about the livery ???
Are you serious? Possibly the big fighter jet painted on the side....
EYKD From Russia, joined Dec 2006, 188 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 2 days ago) and read 11712 times:
Quoting Pyrex (Reply 6): I wonder if that is the actual size of the Su-27 compared to the RRJ or resized somewhat
Hm-m, interesting. Taking into account that SSJ is around 30 meters long and Su-27 is around 22 meters long I would say that Su-27 silhouette is very close to its actual size.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 20319 posts, RR: 62 Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 11600 times:
Wow, that Su-27 must have horrible CASM! And no RASM to speak of…
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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 20319 posts, RR: 62 Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8939 times:
Quoting Hypersonic (Reply 11): English please, not everyone here speaks in gobbledygook!
Most people on a.net speak rudimentary gobbledygook.
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MQTmxguy From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 180 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8799 times:
Quoting EYKD (Thread starter): As said this livery was very warmly welcomed but finally rejected due to its explicit military motifs.
yeah it does look cool, but Imagine a 737 with a F-15 plastered on it, or a Saab 340 with with the outline of a Viggen. It just seems kinda toolish for an airliner.
[Edited 2008-05-17 05:33:59]
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FlySSC From Lebanon, joined Aug 2003, 7179 posts, RR: 65 Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8396 times:
I kind of understand they rejected this livery : the "shadow" of a fighter jet painted on the fuselage of a commercial airliner is a very bad taste and could suffer many negative interpretations from customers.
I believe they did this because Sukhoi is much more famous for the "quality" of its fighters than its commercial aircraft ...
Ravel From Finland, joined Feb 2006, 137 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7125 times:
Quoting RichM (Reply 4): I don't like it at all. Why would they want to portray it to be something that it isn't?
Because Su-27 is one of the most capable fighter planes ever built. It is Sukhoi's best known and most successful product to date. They would, of course, like to emphasize that Superjet 100 has a good performance and great avionics and so on.
That's almost the same as you had a Fiat that had a Ferrari F1 car silhouette in it. Maybe not proper, but it is obvious what it is trying to say.
Slavboro From Russia, joined Apr 2007, 2 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6759 times:
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 18): the "shadow" of a fighter jet painted on the fuselage of a commercial airliner is a very bad taste and could suffer many negative interpretations from customers
That why they rejected family disignation numbers 272 for their commercial planes. On the early stages of the project they considered these digits as good choice, reflected both - military background and Boeing - Sukhoi cooperation. But advisor made them refuse it.
DEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 3975 posts, RR: 2 Reply 25, posted (3 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 5893 times:
Quoting Andrej (Reply 16): there are other logos associated with Sukhoi, but they have similar shape.
The Cyrillic inspired logo minus the circle and arrow could, with a bit of tweaking, look more civilian and commercial. Goes to show how years of state control had stifled the development of Russian advertising. But I'm afraid even a reworking of that logo would just remind the West and Americans of Quicksilver or Cy Young. Better something totally fresh!
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