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BA Fares From 1/1/09 To US Gone Insane  
User currently offlineTLVFred From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13215 times:

Anyone knows whats going on with BA.com prices to JFK, PHX, LAX and all other US destinations in Y and C after 1st Jan?? Whats going on?

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User currently offlineQB737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13213 times:

What's wrong with them?

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17003 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13202 times:

What is it with them??


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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13171 times:

Maybe you get only published IATA ( Full ) Fare tickets on those routes as no special fares are yet loaded?

User currently offlineTLVFred From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13173 times:

Maybe they are going to 'cut back' as in the press and play with the schedule so they dont want any one buying tickets at the moment?

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17003 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13144 times:

You mean they are too expensive??


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User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13144 times:

How have BA fares gone insane? You did not say.

User currently offlineTLVFred From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13029 times:

Only the highest class ticket is being sold - eg JFK Y-Class £1000 C-Class £5000 for all of Jan - May 2009

User currently offlineZuluTime From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13004 times:

Not just for those dates - try a booking for next week, it's the same.

User currently offlineTLVFred From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12964 times:

ok its now everywhere - all JFK and other US are now £1000 return. I thought they were 'slashing' fares. Cant have taken many US bookings this weekend then!

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26491 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12964 times:

This must be an error or revenue are looking at all fares. You can get a consol fare all the way upto 31st March 2009 for EUR 282 plus taxes of EUR 142 return.


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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12945 times:



Quoting TLVFred (Reply 7):
Only the highest class ticket is being sold - eg JFK Y-Class £1000 C-Class £5000 for all of Jan - May 2009

Sounds like unrestricted full fares to me. Obviously they have not loaded anything yet. Trust me, it will change.  Smile


User currently offlineQB737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 12834 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
This must be an error or revenue are looking at all fares.

Or they expect a very hefty fuel bill for next year  Wink


User currently offlineBAStew From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 12556 times:

There have been a few articles in the press about this. In the face of the increase in fuel prices practically wiping out the chance of a profit next year, they are raising fares........and I guess hoping other airlines follow suit!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...?xml=/money/2008/05/17/cnba117.xml

'Mr Walsh signalled that fares would have to rise, admitting there were limits to how much could be recouped via fuel surcharges. "I think it's inevitable that passengers will be impacted by the oil price," he said. "Companies will pass it on to consumers. We are seeing it at the petrol pumps and in the shops. Airlines will do the same." '

and also.........

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...irwaysbusiness.theairlineindustry1

'Douglas McNeill, an analyst at Blue Oar Securities, said the airline would cover the cost increase by raising fares, which would squeeze out discretionary travellers and make the carrier reliant on must-travel customers such as business passengers. "They seem to be charting a course which will see them sacrifice volume for price rises. They hope to push through price rises and see the customer base become less price sensitive as a result. You are then left with customers that have a need to travel. That's a plausible hope but it remains to be seen whether it works in practice," he said. '


User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 12540 times:

I am sure they will change. As it is so far off the discounted fares won't be in there yet as I am sure they are put in on a more tactical basis.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 12475 times:

Last week I found some absurdly cheap last-minute BA deals. For example, I could have booked LHR-JFK in the morning, flown the route in the afternoon and came back a few days later - for about £250 all-in. Damn cheap.


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11807 times:

I checked on for airfares PHX-LHR for Jan 09 on BA; its $950 R/T with $400 of that taxes and fees.

User currently offlineSbworcs From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 825 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 11415 times:

Think it might be only the BA site. Travelsupermarket has JFK for £355 on BA in Jan 09 (Book via ebookers)


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User currently offlineUtapao From Thailand, joined Jul 2005, 645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10482 times:



Quoting TLVFred (Reply 9):
ok its now everywhere - all JFK and other US are now £1000 return. I thought they were 'slashing' fares. Cant have taken many US bookings this weekend then!

Lowest Available

Checking Travelocity -- 22 Jan - 28 Jan

LHR-JFK-LHR - $727 r/t -- 187% of which is taxes/fees - $266 base fare

LHR-LAX-LHR - $909 r/t - 127% of which is taxes/fees -- $389 base fare

LHR-PHR-LHR - $992 r/t -- 110% of which is taxes/fees -- $442 base fare


BA website appears at first glance to be pricing US departures at relatively normal fares but all UK departures for same range are significantly higher...all over ~$2,000... checked multiple dates.

JFK-LHR-JFK - $730 - 130% taxf/fees

LAX-LHR-LAX - $949 r/t - 101% tax/fees

PHX-LHR-PHX - $939 r/t - 103% taxes/fees



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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7256 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days ago) and read 9780 times:

The return fare LHR-JFK-LHR on the BA web site is a consistently very high £1,012 or £1,014 right through from now into next year.

Further from now until 19 October the BA site is signalling that no economy class tickets are available on Saturday LHR-JFK and JFK-LHR flights. However the BA on-line timetable lists the previously announced seven 744 and one 772 flight operating in both directions on a Saturday. So clearly there must be a problem with the web site as BA have been reporting weak demand from Y class passengers (but strong demand for their premium class cabins) on flights to and from the USA for many months.


User currently offlineGCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1323 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7728 times:



Quoting Utapao (Reply 18):
BA website appears at first glance to be pricing US departures at relatively normal fares but all UK departures for same range are significantly higher...all over ~$2,000... checked multiple dates.

Sounds pretty typical for most companies - gouge the UK consumer and offer others in other countries preferential deals.
Having said that, something sounds strange about these prices - this weekend BA were advertising very low fares on the radio in LA.



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17003 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7578 times:

I have for example checked the fares from ARN to LAX in early January, but still I can find something insane.


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User currently offlineCV990Coronado From South Africa, joined Nov 2007, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 7149 times:
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When will airlines start to price in the same way as other businesses ? Fare $266 + Taxes Total $727 this is crazy. The real "taxes" i.e. money paid to governments is not all that much the rest is fuel/security and other surcharges. This is dishonest way to advertise your prices and should be illegal. The fare should be the fare so that customers can compare easily . Just imagine if Mercedes had a price for the motor car and then added a steel surcharges and a coal surcharge and a fuel/rubber surcharges etc etc.


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User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3782 times:

I would rather the price including Taxes is displayed rather than having to add up lots. Look at the low cost airlines when you book a flight with them, they have the fare but then display all the add ons so it is not as clear.

I personally prefer the total cost to be displayed, then you can make an easier comparison.


User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3474 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

It was obviously a computer glitch as BA.com is now showing about £360 return for January next year

25 VV701 : and £318 return all inclusive next month with the formerly missing Saturday flights now restored to the system.
26 Trekster : Musta been a glitch as checked today and its normal prices for Jan/Feb and March next year to JFK for example.
27 Heathrow : Janvier 7th to 14th comes to around 900$ CAD for YYZ-LHR-YYZ. I do not find this 'insane' at all
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