JoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2212 posts, RR: 9 Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5947 times:
Plain ignorant journalism, but could hint a 748 order perhaps?
"Although fuel accounts for 40% of operating costs, we haven't been hit hard by the oil price increase. The market is growing at a rate of 15% a year. We are growing at 30% a year," Orsmond said.
SAA said it was looking for three Boeing 747 wide-body aircraft and three Boeing 747 narrow-body jets with lower running costs per seat.
This would bring to 55 the number of aircraft on the airline's fleet.
SAA's restructuring plan, which started in March last year, had reduced costs by almost R1bn.
The two biggest restructuring initiatives completed successfully were the grounding of six Boeing 747s and consultations with labour on standardising and simplifying conditions of employment, with final agreements being put in place.
Leskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 71 Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5926 times:
Quoting JoKeR (Thread starter): SAA said it was looking for three Boeing 747 wide-body aircraft and three Boeing 747 narrow-body jets with lower running costs per seat.
... three Boeing 747 narrow-body jets...
If SAA has finally managed to get B747s at reasonable rates, then I'd say that it's not unlikely that we'll be seeing B747-400s in their fleet again. Whether it'll be B748s, well, I doubt that for now...
The question remains whether there's any route where they really need the aircraft: LHR maybe, but other than that?
Euclid From South Africa, joined Apr 2005, 372 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5698 times:
Bloody journalists. You'd think somebody would do some fact-checking before letting that article go public. Anybody with half a braincell would have been able to see that something just does not make sense.
On second thought, if that statement really came from someone at SAA then it's no wonder that SAA is in deep shit. How can you run an airline if you don't even know what the hell type of aircraft is available out there?
KennyK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 482 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2359 times:
I thought SAA had gotten rid off their 747s due to unusually high lease fees, so it would make sense for them to perhaps buy 3 744s or lease them at better rates. I think they still need 747s despite having A346s just to make up capacity if they are expanding as much as suggested. As for 748s, dream on, likewise A380s.
I agree on that one - while I'd love to see SAA operating either one (with a certain preference for one of the two), I don't see either arriving in JNB wearing SAA's livery anytime within a decade... yet...
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 28492 posts, RR: 84 Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1484 times:
SA evidently found the A340-600 to be a good replacement for their 747-400s, which it is if you don't need to maximize passenger loads.
So if SA still does not need to maximize passenger loads, but wishes to grow, the 747-8I might very well be a solid choice. It should have operating costs in the general range of the A340-600, will carry up to 100 more people, and offers a slightly higher maximum payload.
The A380-800 would make sense if SA wants to maximize passenger loads, but that would be almost two-thirds more people per flight so unless SA sees huge traffic gains really quick, those A380's would be flying with a not-insignificant amount of seats empty which would hurt their operating costs compared to the 747-8I.